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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Not true. I've done stuff like this (though rare) when I'm feeling unusually bold. Both to strangers (that I don't have feelings for) and guys I'm hanging out with. I'm definitely no aggressor or gamma NT. I'm just an irl troll sometimes.

    Also, if I have a bf, they will get spanked and groped. It's just going to happen because I'm basically a man.
    Jesus, now I know the type of every girl who snuck up behind me at a concert, groped a handful of my bum and then scurried away before I could catch them in the act. Crafty IEIs, they are creeps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I will never approach them or talk to them. I will act like they don't exist while having a narrative like this in my head, lol. Of course this song was written by an IEI.



    Usually I crush on really outgoing guys, so they will often initiate contact anyway. It's very rare that I get crushes, though. I have not had one in years, I kind of miss it.
    Exactly this! With the song as well, of course.


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    I'll notice, Fay's type is IEI indeed. So what she says about this type's behavior is especially interesting.
    Similarly is with Aylen, which would could gladden us with another 1-2 megabytes of text.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    its going to be different for people because some are really shy and some are brave.
    Usually im really shy and avoids the person haha until we establish a connection ill just try to flirt subtly in texts or something.
    But after a while if im brave, ill say something to break the ice, and provoke them like SOl said. Sneak in sex in the conversation too, and be a little more demanding and tease them to see if they can 'handle me' and, i think its just fun. If the person seems less interested then, then hes not for me. and i'll be very honest about stuff.
    And if the person im interested in seems to avoid me my feelings go down and i ask myself do i really like this person? Then when he comes back im like yep i do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I'll notice, Fay's type is IEI indeed. So what she says about this type's behavior is especially interesting.
    Similarly is with Aylen, which would could gladden us with another 1-2 megabytes of text.
    I will make you buy the book.

    I am not going to share in this thread. I can just smile and nod when I read something I relate to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I will make you buy the book.
    This would be like "Best of Aylen from 2016 year", vol. 1
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Not true. I've done stuff like this (though rare) when I'm feeling unusually bold. Both to strangers (that I don't have feelings for) and guys I'm hanging out with. I'm definitely no aggressor or gamma NT. I'm just an irl troll sometimes.

    Also, if I have a bf, they will get spanked and groped. It's just going to happen because I'm basically a man.
    I know I said I wasn't going to post in this thread but I remember when we were posting about this in a different thread.

    If it isn't clear to anyone, ahem, sol, here that I type you IEI. I will state it again. I consider you an identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Starfall is an obvious IEI. Anybody who types Tila Tequila as IEI has zero credibility.
    I am completely baffled by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    This would be like "Best of Aylen from 2016 year", vol. 1
    Perhaps you would prefer a more simplified version, that even you can follow? I didn't have time to replace the names but you get the picture, right?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bane View Post
    Ignores you.
    Sometimes confrontational.
    Sometimes bratty.
    Many times flaky.
    Goes quiet and awkward at random.
    Tries to spank you.
    Softness in the eyes behind composed mask.
    Contacts you at random times during the night and then apologizes immediately after.
    Sometimes acts cool to make it seem like they're not a dork but really are and want to be accepted for it.
    Other weird shit.
    That's exactly how my INFj-INTj friend behaves when she is interested in a guy.

    You got the the spanking, the childlike brattiness, and the quirky Ne weirdness. She'd pinch a guy on his behind and then pretend like it wasn't her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Perhaps you would prefer a more simplified version, that even you can follow?
    Better thinking needs lesser words to say important.
    Last edited by Sol; 07-11-2016 at 02:31 PM.
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    We're all over the place. When I was a kid I was just like butters, and then I learned push and pull behavior worked. I was a real motherfucker for awhile. Hot and cold with everyone who wasn't a good friend or family. But now I'm old, and I like being polite and straight forward.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bane View Post
    Ignores you.
    Sometimes confrontational.
    Sometimes bratty.
    Many times flaky.
    Goes quiet and awkward at random.
    Tries to spank you.
    Softness in the eyes behind composed mask.
    Contacts you at random times during the night and then apologizes immediately after.
    Sometimes acts cool to make it seem like they're not a dork but really are and want to be accepted for it.
    Other weird shit.
    that's an infantile girl ... nothing about this fits the victim romancing style if you've had any experience with it.

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    Well, I just can tell about myself.

    First of all, I find the general Victim description quite accurate. I'm always doubting when I fell in love. For me it's like a roller coaster, sometimes I feel really strong attraction and at other times I'm telling myself: "this person ain't that special." Additionally, I'm constantly reflecting whether the person is interested in me.

    However, I'm not very selfish so the probability is very low that I'll directly flirt with people. But I've my ways to get to know someone. And to be honest, I just wanna have the perfect relationship. That's why the character is really important for me but I don't want to make deductions in terms of beauty and physicality either. So I'm mostly friend-zoning the person of my interest, I have to be sure about the character. Well, IEIs tend to read people like books and they're pretty much socially adoptable -- they'll find a way that you like them. I really prefer one-on-ones because then I can prepare in advance and direct the conservation.

    If you're interested in an IEI, then just ask him/her - you can't go wrong with this. The IEI will always try to make you feel comfortable and that your feelings won't get hurt. And I'm pretty sure that an IEI won't break off a friendship because of that question.
    In general, if I'm in love, then I can't stop to eyeball the girl who enters the room. But right after, I try not to look at her.

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    I think behaviour has a lot to do with how attractive or confident one is. I know an IEI over whom most males salivate and I don't remember her without someone on her arm. She seemed to have a holier-than-thou attitude toward her mates - actual quote: "Ah, if he really leaves, it'll be relaxing to be without a boyfriend for an hour or two." What I found very telling was her overly deferential approach to confident people (themselves attractive and non-attractive) who did not exhibit any attraction toward her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milo View Post
    that's an infantile girl ... nothing about this fits the victim romancing style if you've had any experience with it.
    Nah, this is more about maturity levels, social skills, and adapting to the people they are around. I would never spank someone sexually because that is not my style but I slap people on the butt sometimes, then blame someone else, if I know them well. The only time I would contact a guy randomly in the middle of the night is if I had a few drinks and we had some kind of relationship. Anyone can drunk dial. In general I tend to wait for someone to contact me first but even that depends on the person. I kind of let them set the tone and then I navigate within those guidelines. People take the romance styles way too literal based on the words victim, aggressor, infantile, etc...

    Victim

    The Victim types, identified as such by Viktor DarkAngelFireWolf69, are the four types with Ni in their ego, two each in Beta and Gamma: EIE, IEI, LIE, and ILI.Despite the differences between these types in terms of temperament, base function, and quadra values, it seems that in the area of physical attraction, desire, and flirting, their Ni, coupled with their expectations of Se style behavior in intimate partners, is the most visible factor in a Victim's behavior.Typical characteristics of the Victim romance style


    • prone to initial doubts about intensity of own interest in another person
    • not always confident about revealing that interest
    • inclined to focus on whether or not the other person might reciprocate the interest
    • inclined to question whether or not the other person's interest will remain constant with time
    • preference for partners that provoke in the individual a certain sense of awe in terms of power, physical presence, and the like
    • appreciation for the sense of power-play present when interacting with such partners, with acceptance of a slight sense of superiority on the part of the partner, without ever actually "submitting" to them
    • this takes the form of the individual somewhat expecting the partner to be "mean" on occasion in the case of Victim males with female partners, this latter trait assumes a characteristic analogous to a "knight devoted to his princess"
    • inclination to openly admit to a relationship having been ended by the partner rather than by the individual himself

    This romance style is defined by focus on Ni which is dynamic, irrational, and introverted, with perceptions of inner imagery away from the present physical reality. This means that a Victim sees attraction between two individuals as a dynamic state, which he feels is completely natural. This accounts for a Victim's inclination to focus on the mutual attraction, or particularly the attraction felt by the other person, as to its longer-term perspectives and implications, as well as a certain expectation that the partner will continuously take action to confirm the attraction. Failure on the partner to do so results on the individual assuming that it's already changing. The individual counts on the partner to forcefully bring the individual "down to earth from his thoughts " and focus on the immediate physical reality, continuously.Perception of other romance styles

    This refers to perceptions of the partner in a romantic or prospective relationship.
    • Aggressor: Victims tend to perceive Aggressors as pleasantly reassuring of their interest and prone to take the inititive in that area. They find Aggressor's sexual confidence attractive and reflecting positively on themselves.
    • Victim: Victims tend to perceive other Victims as puzzling and inconstant, as if they were playing games or "push-pull" behavior, but also as exciting partners if a stage of "certainty" is reached.
    • Caregiver: Victims tend to perceive Caregivers as comfortable and up to a point reassuring partners, but also somewhat boring, leading to a sense of stagnation. The Caregiver's inclination to treat them as somewhat helpless is perceived as slightly insulting.
    • Infantile: Victims tend to perceive Infantiles as too goofy and expecting a kind of attention that the Victims find demanding; Victim women are prone to see Infantile men as irritating



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    I don't know,I don't think they do either to be honest.

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