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    It's official: us 3s can get away with everthing.

    Exhibit A:


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    Exhibit B: Elvis turning "scandalous" into "fabulous"!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    It's official: us 3s can get away with everthing.

    Exhibit A:

    for an image-conscious 3 you sure are OK with putting Justin Bieber on your enneagram type thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    3w2 Sx/Sp

    Best quote:
    "The rest of us - look like SAUSAGES!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafera View Post
    for an image-conscious 3 you sure are OK with putting Justin Bieber on your enneagram type thread
    I roasted him (and myself to be fair) so it's ok 4-wing business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    It's official: us 3s can get away with everthing.

    Exhibit A:

    Hmm, I actually think he's a 6w7 Sx/Sp (639).

    That has become much more apparent with his current style and music now.

    Many people start to really discover and tap into their Enneagram type when they hit puberty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    Hmm, I actually think he's a 6w7 Sx/Sp (639).

    That has become much more apparent with his current style and music now.

    Many people start to really discover and tap into their Enneagram type when they hit puberty.



    ^ Rebellious unhealthy CP 6w7 moment.
    If he's a 6, yes - definitely counterphobic. But I still think 3 is the core type.

    Imo the other way around would be true: that "what do you mean" stuff hailing the 6-integration What I am cautious about is not confusing his behavior with his blind spot.

    The footage doesn't demonstrate his motivation - any type can end there. If anything, a 6 would have avoided getting in danger, while Biebs just abused his priviledges on some SX, low trip, which did not troubleshoot things at all. In fact, he was half-arrogant, half-ashamed about it, 3 again.

    About the gut center: 9's pretty good I agree

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    when you put two 3w2s in the same room
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    lol
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    3w2 So/Sp.

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    No amount of praise and prices can lift you up if you don't value what you do yourself. If you are satisfied on your own you don't need approval. Learned this the hard way because I was an idiot.

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    Justin Bieber is definitely not soc last. So/sx. And I also think hes a 3. He feels hearty. Theres no 9 in him though, he starts fights here and there and is reactive. 368 or 378. If you want to see a 369 look at George Clooney.


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    4-wing.


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    I'm so 3 that my passwords are always inspired by a celebrity's name.

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    Daaaamnnn
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    "Idol (n.)

    Mid-13c., "image of a deity as an object of (pagan) worship," from Old French
    idole "idol, graven image, pagan god" (11c.), from Latin idolum "image (mental or physical), form," especially "apparition, ghost," but used in Church Latin for "false god, image of a pagan deity as an object of worship." This is from Greek eidolon "mental image, apparition, phantom," also "material image, statue," in Ecclesiastical Greek," a pagan idol," from eidos "form, shape; likeness, resemblance" (see -oid).

    A Greek word for "image," used in Jewish and early Christian writers for "image of a false god," hence also "false god." The Germanic languages tended to form a word for it from the reverse direction, from "god" to "false god," hence "image of a false god" (compare Old English
    afgod, Danish afgud, Swedish avgud, Old High German abgot, compounds with af-/ab- "away, away from" (source of off) + god). The older Greek senses sometimes have been used in English. Figurative sense of "something idolized" is first recorded 1560s (in Middle English the figurative sense was "someone who is false or untrustworthy"). Meaning "a person so adored, human object of adoring devotion" is from 1590s."

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    Unhealthy Sexual 3w4



    In Greek mythology, Narcissus (/nɑːrˈsɪsəs/; Greek: Νάρκισσος, Nárkissos) was a hunter from Thespiae in Boeotia who was known for his beauty. He was the son of the river god Cephissus and nymph Liriope. He was proud, in that he disdained those who loved him. Nemesis noticed this behavior and attracted Narcissus to a pool, where he saw his own reflection in the water and fell in love with it, not realizing it was merely an image. Unable to leave the beauty of his reflection, Narcissus lost his will to live. He stared at his reflection until he died. Narcissus is the origin of the term narcissism, a fixation with oneself and one's physical appearance and/or public perception.
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    @Jeremy if anything, that's some ultra-creepy, ultra-rapey 4w3 stuff. Yeah Britney sang "you want a piece of me" I know but this is deep and emotional and victimish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    @Jeremy if anything, that's some ultra-creepy, ultra-rapey 4w3 stuff. Yeah Britney sang "you want a piece of me" I know but this is deep and emotional and victimish
    It looks 3w4 sx/so or sp/sx, or 4w3.
    3w4 and 4w3 sx blur the line a lot.
    There's nothing really deep about it and it's almost emotionally disconnected despite that it seems like it should be emotional, which seems 3w4.
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    It's creepy 3w4 in like the American Psycho sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handjob View Post
    It looks 3w4 sx/so or sp/sx, or 4w3.
    3w4 and 4w3 sx blur the line a lot.
    There's nothing really deep about it and it's almost emotionally disconnected despite that it seems like it should be emotional, with seems 3w4.
    It could be. But I can't see the emotional disconnection, the woman's expression is just too... dramatic or indulgent depending on the intent of the hands, that's both 4 topics still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    It could be. But I can't see the emotional disconnection, the woman's expression is just too... dramatic or indulgent depending on the intent of the hands, that's both 4 topics still
    Dramatic and indulgent goes for both types (especially 3w4/4w3 sx), and in many ways 3 is actually more indulgent/dramatic on the outside, where 4 keeps it in. But I know what you mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handjob View Post
    Dramatic and indulgent goes for both types (especially 3w4/4w3 sx), and in many ways 3 is actually more indulgent/dramatic on the outside, where 4 keeps it in. But I know what you mean.
    Hm. When the dramatism is there to be validated, it blurs the lines even more I think. Maybe @Jeremy should explain the reasoning behind it and in what context that picture is, where it was found etc. It comes from a 4 herself so I'm curious.

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    The "darkest" and most 4-ish manifestation of 3w4 I know of in real life and not fiction is (technically was) Adam Lambert.
    (I used to mistype him as 4w3.) And he was still nothing like the picture above...

     






     




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Hm. When the dramatism is there to be validated, it blurs the lines even more I think. Maybe @Jeremy should explain the reasoning behind it and in what context that picture is, where it was found etc. It comes from a 4 herself so I'm curious.
    I agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    The "darkest" and most 4-ish manifestation of 3w4 I know of in real life and not fiction is (technically was) Adam Lambert.
    (I used to mistype him as 4w3.) And he was still nothing like the picture above...

     






     




    I can totally picture him doing this, maybe not in black and white, though. I think once any artsy pic is put in black and white it runs into "4" territory. I also think Lana Del Rey is a 3w4 (or 6w7 with 3w4 fix) going for a "dark" 4w3 look, if you're looking for a "dark" 3w4. She's changed a lot with her image to fit in, and she's even changed her image multiple times, like now she pretty much dropped the dark thing for her current album.
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    I guess the issue is that 3w4 and 4w3 can look very similar on the outside, depending on whether they decide to go with a more "4ish" look or a more "3ish" one.

    At the end of the day, you have to look at their main fixations. 3s want to be admired, 3s are chameleons, 3s primarily want to be successful and productive. Whereas 4s want to be true to themselves, be unique, and be artistic.

    I find Lana Del Rey is rather 4w3. She sees herself as an artist first and foremost. Her work is deeply personal. Whereas Adam Lambert's work is much more general, pop culture-focused. Most of his songs weren't written by him. He's more of a performer than an artist. He's like Elvis in that way, who was a 3w2.
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    The image actually reminds me of 3w4 sx/so Madonna's Erotica phase.

    The official video was deleted for some reason, and the audio was taken out from this one, but the images are here.



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    I guess the issue is that 3w4 and 4w3 can look very similar on the outside, depending on whether they decide to go with a more "4ish" look or a more "3ish" one.

    At the end of the day, you have to look at their main fixations. 3s want to be admired, 3s are chameleons, 3s primarily want to be successful and productive. Whereas 4s want to be true to themselves, be unique, and be artistic.

    I find Lana Del Rey is rather 4w3. She sees herself as an artist first and foremost. Her work is deeply personal. Whereas Adam Lambert's work is much more general, pop culture-focused. Most of his songs weren't written by him. He's more of a performer than an artist. He's like Elvis in that way, who was a 3w2.
    I do know many 3w4s who like "dark" things and dress/act provocatively.

    I love Lana, but she's pretty fake. If you watch an interview of her you can tell there's a lot of acting and strain to stay in one place instead of letting her whole, true personality out. And, of course, her plastic surgeries and changing images. I know 4w3 could get surgery done and change themselves out of shame and all, but I see little shame in her. She is a natural in the spotlight. She definitely seems like she wants to be admired and successful first. I would agree she cares about her art first, too, though - I don't think that disqualifies 3. Madonna is similar in that way, she wants to be admired, successful, and productive but wants her art to be true and unique as well.

    I think it's easy to think Lana is 4w3 without following closely.

    Lana's songs are predominately about getting security or admiration, 3w4/6w7 again, save for Dark Paradise and Summertime Sadness.
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    Lana is surely serving a lot of 3.

    That chorus



    "Money is the anthem of success"



    Is A$AP a 3w4 (with some 7-ish, 9-ish influences)? That would also explain a lot.

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    This is rather 4w3 to me.



    Also, art can be somewhat flexible. As an artist, you can focus on one subject for a while without necessarily being as associated with that subject. Like you don't have to be a serial killer to write about one. I think she may just engage in her 3 wing when writing her songs. But her main fixation seems to be Type 4 still, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    This is rather 4w3 to me.



    Also, art can be somewhat flexible. As an artist, you can focus on one subject for a while without necessarily being as associated with that subject. Like you don't have to be a serial killer to write about one. I think she may just engage in her 3 wing when writing her songs. But her main fixation seems to be Type 4 still, imo.
    Yeah especially at the beginning, then she also goes into 7 stuff as well that has to be the head fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae
    Is A$AP a 3w4 (with some 7-ish, 9-ish influences)? That would also explain a lot.
    Probably.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    This is rather 4w3 to me.



    Also, art can be somewhat flexible. As an artist, you can focus on one subject for a while without necessarily being as associated with that subject. Like you don't have to be a serial killer to write about one. I think she may just engage in her 3 wing when writing her songs. But her main fixation seems to be Type 4 still, imo.
    But there is a constant theme of 3-ish 6-ish stuff throughout all her work, the whole vulnerably scared girl looking for sugar daddy, attention, and power thing. I agree she seems very 4-ish in that interview and has some interesting things to say. But in some way it still feels like an act. Even Madonna seems more real with how she's bold and says things like it is while Lana seems to be overdoing everything like she's trying to prove something (or maybe I am confused and 4's come off too much for me, but I don't feel this way with 4w3 Morrissey who seems like a genuine 4w3, etc.)

    But her type is a highly debatable thing from what I've seen.
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    This tumblr blog is full of 3w2 (fix) style pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassandra View Post
    This tumblr blog is full of 3w2 (fix) style pics.
    Yep. Really accurate find. The 2-wing very clearly pronounced, these guys are aiming for mainstream acclaim. I always thought that was a good way to determine the wing, 3w4 always seeks to distinguish themselves to find their own niche, 3w2 is the collective people pleaser becoming an epitome of something. Especially social ones but the blog here is more SP/SO.

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