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    I abhor violence. A movie's first gory scene is the last scene I'll see.
    ryoka14's thread served a painful reminder that compatibility (romantic or otherwise) instincts elude me. My favor is equally distributed among strangers. I'm an animosity socialist.
    I prefer to eat the same meals almost everyday.
    I wear the same outfit almost every day.
    Travel doesn't interest me. Though I change cities sometimes, I don't like trips.
    With the exception of my work schedule, no part of my day is planned more than 24 hours in advance.
    Novels are my favorite friends but poetry makes me sick.
    I don't move my face around a lot.

    I'll leave it to those interested in inquiring to further and control this conversation.

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    IEE, if you're not a troll in any case, just a quick guess based on stereotypes plus what you wrote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reficulris View Post
    IEE, if you're not a troll in any case, just a quick guess based on stereotypes plus what you wrote.
    I hope you're right. IEE's my personal favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    I hope you're right. IEE's my personal favorite.
    mine too if so, welcome to delta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    I'm an animosity socialist.
    What does this mean?
    “I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden

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    i was thinking introvert. but its hard to tell.

    how do you eventually come to decide "compatibility" with someone? what is the process? what qualities do you like/dislike in others?
    what are some of your favorite novels? why does poetry make you sick?
    what are your thoughts upon seeing this picture?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    What does this mean?
    It means my favor (and lack thereof) is equally distributed among strangers.

    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i was thinking introvert. but its hard to tell.

    how do you eventually come to decide "compatibility" with someone? what is the process? what qualities do you like/dislike in others?
    what are some of your favorite novels? why does poetry make you sick?
    what are your thoughts upon seeing this picture?


    how do you eventually come to decide "compatibility" with someone? what is the process?

    Almost all my friendships end after two months. They invite me out, take photos with me, increasingly include me in their lives for a month, then begins the slow decline of interest. It fills me with guilt to admit the decline is more interesting than the ascent. Once interest is lost and I'm nothing to gain, I get to see all the ugly honest parts. I suspect those friendships which continue to last are the compatible ones.

    what qualities do you like/dislike in others?

    I don't like shame. If you ask me what I did last weekend, I'll give you the big picture, interesting and unimpressive details included. I like those who reciprocate in kind.
    Each of my long-term friends is perfectly capable of holding a conversation entirely with him/herself. My company to them seems to mimic a listening conscience. I like this.

    what are some of your favorite novels?
    The Left Hand of Darkness, The Gods Themselves, The Positronic Man. I frequently read thrillers but have yet to fall in love with any.

    why does poetry make you sick?
    It feels like tunnel vision. I respect the art, but looking through it is dizzying.

    what are your thoughts upon seeing this picture?
    Nostalgia. On my way to work I used to walk down a street with buildings covered in art like this every day, before I moved.
    I think it symbolizes repeated ego death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i was thinking introvert. but its hard to tell.

    how do you eventually come to decide "compatibility" with someone? what is the process? what qualities do you like/dislike in others?
    what are some of your favorite novels? why does poetry make you sick?
    what are your thoughts upon seeing this picture?

    This is a really interesting picture lungs, where is it from? I'm not trying to derail the thread, but it reminded me of album art from the prog metal band Tool.

    In addition, it seems that this artist has a very negativist view of the core of human nature. It's as if the artists feels the outer self is a veil over the primordial self, which seeks to wrap itself in layers of flesh to hide the truth of what it is, to remain elusive and to deceive others. The human psyche is dark, self-interested, and cares only its own survival. It is the amoeba that consumes without thought and is the opportunist that sees in every direction while it awaits for its prey.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    i wouldn't oppose an IEI typing. strong Ni subtype in either case. i want this person in gamma, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i was thinking introvert. but its hard to tell.
    I'd agree. Probably ethical, I wouldn't doubt IEE.

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    i think you are Ni-ILI.

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    I appreciate the questions and input, lungs.

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    I think I like this person.

    I'm no proper socionist but ILI sounds good.
    “I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. government will lead the American people in — and the West in general — into an unbearable hell and a choking life. - Osama bin Laden

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    Now I'm just echoing everyone else, but: I love how you write...which probably means that I like how you think.

    so far you are xNxx.


    **eh just notice you stated ^ that very thing on your profile.

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    I think you are ethical. I'd guess INFp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra View Post
    I think you are ethical. I'd guess INFp

    I kind of agree with such contrarian attitudes here.

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    With the tiny amount of information provided my thought was ILI.
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    I liked how she (?) read the picture - "repeated ego death". I would have said unexplored areas of the brain (our potential for cognition and/or memory is broader in theory than we usually see in practice, given our limiting habits).

    I suppose strong Ni subtype from all the details (including leaving the reins of the conversation to others).

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    What do you do for a living? Is that why you've relocated? If not, for what reasons did you relocate? Do you believe in love?

    edit: I also think Fe valuing is likely at this point, and IEI seems a pretty reasonable typing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sacral View Post
    What do you do for a living? Is that why you've relocated? If not, for what reasons did you relocate? Do you believe in love?

    edit: I also think Fe valuing is likely at this point, and IEI seems a pretty reasonable typing.
    What do you do for a living?
    I've had many jobs but specialize in nothing. So, whatever comes my way. Currently I touch money all day. I work at a bank.

    Is that why you've relocated?
    No.

    If not, for what reasons did you relocate?
    I'd exhausted my old home. I could have been a taxi driver.

    Do you believe in love?
    Yes, and in small examples, love finds it's way into life's humdrum. Go to a city park and on average I see it twice per hour.
    Though relationships are easy, relationships of consistent love are made from uncommon materials.

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    oh, i just came across it on my tumblr dashboard which was open in another tab as i was replying. honestly i wasn't very affected by it, but it just happened to be an easily available picture that potentially contained some symbolism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    oh, i just came across it on my tumblr dashboard which was open in another tab as i was replying. honestly i wasn't very affected by it, but it just happened to be an easily available picture that potentially contained some symbolism.
    I thought is was cool. Nothing I would hang on my wall, but interesting to reflect on.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    I prefer to eat the same meals almost everyday.
    I wear the same outfit almost every day.
    Travel doesn't interest me. Though I change cities sometimes, I don't like trips.
    I abhor violence. A movie's first gory scene is the last scene I'll see.
    As many people mentioned before me, all of this points to an Intuitive personality (specifically, weak and subdued SI).

    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    Iryoka14's thread served a painful reminder that compatibility (romantic or otherwise) instincts elude me. My favor is equally distributed among strangers. I'm an animosity socialist.
    Almost all my friendships end after two months. They invite me out, take photos with me, increasingly include me in their lives for a month, then begins the slow decline of interest. It fills me with guilt to admit the decline is more interesting than the ascent. Once interest is lost and I'm nothing to gain, I get to see all the ugly honest parts. I suspect those friendships which continue to last are the compatible ones.
    Yes, and in small examples, love finds it's way into life's humdrum. Go to a city park and on average I see it twice per hour. Though relationships are easy, relationships of consistent love are made from uncommon materials.
    You seem to have a strong sense of morality but some difficulties in showing it to others. Your view of friendships / relationsip reminds me of mine when I was younger... Something along the lines of "You can count me your friend as you wish as long we actually have something to share, and you aren't behaving too bad". Tells me something along the lines of weak FE and valued FI

    In general, the way you are answering to questions (lists, getting straight to the point, "counting" the amount of times per hour you see love in the air", low to no facial movements) suggests me a logical personality.
    I'm split between LIE and ILI on this one, but I'll go with the ILI interpretation, as most of your answers seem to be focused towards how you relate to the issue (aboundance of statements in the form "I [action, verb, feeling]..", relationships and people descriptions are always described from the point of view of how you relate to them, etc.)

    Hope this helps!

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    Socionics Types: ILE-Ti / ENTp (Alternatives: IEE - LII - ILI)
    MBTI: ? (Possibilities: INTP, INFP, ENFP, INFJ)
    Enneatype: ?w? sx (Possibilities: 4w3, 4w5. 5w6, 2w1)
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    NE is not for the faint of heart: makes you scattered, makes your mind wander around, makes you curious and wander-lusting. Makes you want to begin everything all over again, just 'cause it might plan out in a totally way.
    Embrace your NE, and it will open up a thousand worlds for ya."

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    I don't see valued Fi anywhere. "Something along the lines of "You can count me your friend as you wish as long we actually have something to share, and you aren't behaving too bad"" ?!? But why couldn't a IEI think like this? They have strong Fi after all.

    All I see is a pile of Ni with beliefs in supernatural gods controlling your destiny and desires to grasp some figures in the carpet in people's lives. I haven't caught sight of any Te so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    All I see is a pile of Ni with beliefs in supernatural gods controlling your destiny
    I'm an atheist.

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    I think Agni got a somewhat distorted view of you from the "Assume a God Controls your Life" thread.
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    Projecting is fine for this thread.
    Unavoidable, actually.
    Was this your motive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Was this your motive?
    I'd like for members to, through the eyes of the depicted God, either project ingrained virtues (such as belief in a purpose or duty) onto life, or invent an amusing story. Or both.
    This motive comes from my strong appreciation of vanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    I'd like for members to, through the eyes of the depicted God, either project ingrained virtues (such as belief in a purpose or duty) onto life, or invent an amusing story. Or both.
    This motive comes from my strong appreciation of vanity.
    See, I can't really imagine an ILI caring about that. Trying to force new perspectives seems Ne valuing to me. Could still be IEI though. They seem to like to make participatory, "just for fun" threads. Maybe my perspective is just narrow, but so far you seem to have only affirmed you have weak sensing. And there are some things about you that suggest valued Fi, but I think it's too little information to really conclude.

    The whole 'not moving your face around a lot' doesn't mean much to me because I have never seen a correlation between vibrant facial expressions and type values. If anything it might suggest intuitive but I think even that connection is a little weak. I do think you are intuitive dominant though. Either Ne or Ni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    I don't see valued Fi anywhere. "Something along the lines of "You can count me your friend as you wish as long we actually have something to share, and you aren't behaving too bad"" ?!?
    Missed this before. Not me at all.

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    Thoughtful response, Erlaad.

    Should I be blessed with front row seats, I delight in watching happy accidents strike an ethical type into whirlwinds of carefree emotional expression, subtle or ebullient. This is why I fancy being an ethical type. I'm flat, though. I don't know how they stand me.

    And you are correct, I like my morals. Mine are clearly and simply defined. I'm relieved of the burden that is seething over nuisances (which years ago I struggled with), because hating an action won't guarantee its immorality and I won't waste hatred on a moral action.

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    do you type yourself in enneagram?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    do you type yourself in enneagram?
    I think I'm a 5w4. No opinion on stackings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    I think I'm a 5w4. No opinion on stackings.

    Strangely you come across as more chaotic/random that a typical E5. Not exactly detached, linear (organized), with a scientific streak, the voice of reason&objectivity etc. Imo you seem to focus more on subjectivity, strangely enough. But I'd say your stack is probably sp/sx (even your avatar alludes to that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    Strangely you come across as more chaotic/random that a typical E5. Not exactly detached, linear (organized), with a scientific streak, the voice of objectivity etc. Imo you seem to focus more on subjectivity, strangely enough. But I'd say your stack is probably sp/sx (even your avatar alludes to that).
    sp first I agree with, but why not sp/so?
    I could be 4w5, though I doubt it.

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    I can't wait to see CPig or InvisibleJim play this kind of charade
    Last edited by Amber; 10-16-2014 at 11:20 AM.

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    I can definitely see where the all-mighty N comes from

    Ni base as far as I'm concerned.

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    On Introversion/Extraversion, stereotypes included:

    I'm not shy. Crowds and large groups neither bother nor excite me.
    With some exceptions, talking to people doesn't tire me. The exceptions:
    --Talking to someone who pushes a subject into resented territory
    --Talking to someone who demands from me quips that aren't mine
    --Talking to someone who condemns for self-promotion
    I can small talk all day. I'd rather not.
    I'm energized by self-reflection and others-reflection.
    I make strangers abnormally uncomfortable. Can't help it. Wouldn't.
    Subjectivity interests me more than objectivity.

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    My views on socionics:

    Egos can be willfully modified or recreated. Unless socionics describes something other than ego, it follows that type can change.
    Ego characteristics are dependent on chance and availability. Egos are as varied as cultures can change and minds can invent.
    Egos are spineless. There are no timeless frameworks. Every perceived pattern is an illusion created by common influences (the consensus of an era).

    That being said, socionics types describe only. They aren't genetic.

    As a side note, the flexibility of ego doesn't reduce its value. I like egotism. I wouldn't do away with it, yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    Egos can be willfully modified or recreated. Unless socionics describes something other than ego, it follows that type can change.
    Ego characteristics are dependent on chance and availability. Egos are as varied as cultures can change and minds can invent.
    Egos are spineless. There are no timeless frameworks.

    As a side note, the flexibility of ego doesn't reduce its value. I like egotism. I wouldn't do away with it, yet.
    Dude, you should totally submit to the Id. Seriously. You can't imagine what you're missing out on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
    I make strangers abnormally uncomfortable. Can't help it. Wouldn't.
    I really, really enjoy people. Discovering them. But romantic adventures are outside my reach. I'm asexual. I also never fall in love. There's a lot of intimacy to be shared between platonic partners but I'm certain sex can bring a euphoric connection I'll never get to experience. I'd actually like to destroy that certainty. I want to find in it a childish romanticism and thus, my escape. I know I'll never enjoy sex, but I think I can find a way to tweak my brain so that I could fall in love.
    I might be projecting myself here, but I still see this as a FI-hidden agenda (as per Ganin). Also, IEE would imply NI-SuperId (which is not the case, as many pointed out - NI Ego).
    IEI would imply FE-creative:

    The person is sensitive to the emotional atmosphere around him, either from an individual, or a group, or even from inanimate objects such as the landscape, the state of the physical environment he happens to be in, or his own emotional associations with the place or people around him. A positive emotional atmophere is essential for his sense of well being and inner peace, and he either tries to promote it himself by directly influencing it around him, or by simply moving away from the environment or the people causing a negative emotional environment in his view.
    which is possible (bits here and there), but doesn't wring too many bells ("Almost all my friendships end after two months. [...] It fills me with guilt to admit the decline is more interesting than the ascent. Once interest is lost and I'm nothing to gain, I get to see all the ugly honest parts. I suspect those friendships which continue to last are the compatible ones").

    I guess IEI-Ni and ILI-Ni are both viable possiblities, @Suburbanite, so you should consider which one fits best for you. I still hold on to ILI-Ni, thought.

    - Erl
    Last edited by Erlaad; 10-16-2014 at 08:20 AM. Reason: Double word and mentioning
    Socionics Types: ILE-Ti / ENTp (Alternatives: IEE - LII - ILI)
    MBTI: ? (Possibilities: INTP, INFP, ENFP, INFJ)
    Enneatype: ?w? sx (Possibilities: 4w3, 4w5. 5w6, 2w1)
    Big Five: ?
    Social Style: Expressive (Main) / Analytical (Secondary)

    "I love my NE. I'm not sure 'bout anything in this world, but if there's one thing I'd bet on, is NE.
    NE is not for the faint of heart: makes you scattered, makes your mind wander around, makes you curious and wander-lusting. Makes you want to begin everything all over again, just 'cause it might plan out in a totally way.
    Embrace your NE, and it will open up a thousand worlds for ya."

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