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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Ok, so I will try to describe how I relate to the sx/so energy in me (or whatever kinda energy I'm feeling, no matter how you wanna call it). It's really not about being dressed like a stripper or being a porn-star, because I'm neither. I'm actually quite reserved and concerned about how I come across when you first get to know me (3w4 after all).I had problems with thinking of appropriate art work or music to describe stackings before, so I went for the obvious.

    Firstly, the sx/so energy has sp as a bling spot, so I feel like a perpetual teenage rebel. Yeah, right now I'm young and I have world at my feet (delusions I know), but I can just feel the feeling of time running out creeping down my back.

    The word intense in relation with sx/so can be deceiving imo, cause I think people with sp first or second can often come off more intense- they're like a pressure cooker - more sullen and moody than sx/so.

    Sx/so is more like a glowing ball, sparking up when something lights up its interest and burning up until this particular thing turns to dust. And then it turns to ice.

    I honestly feel like it's the shittiest and least useful stacking to be, because once it runs out of its youthful fuel/glow, what is it going to do? Fall into deep depression? I can just see that in my future. No spark, no fucking life. I can see sx/so being useful for revolutions and people being ready to sacrifice their lives for a passionate cause, but it' the stacking that's really only acceptable in youth in our passionless culture.

    And after certain age people are just going to treat you as a total outcast, if you will continue with your sx/so ways.That's why I have a sneaking suspicion many people with this stacking just off themselves after a certain age (27 club and such) - they are certainly impulsive enough for it as well.

    I'm kinda drunk, so forgive me my rant, I just don't understand why people think being sx/so is so glamorous. Cause it's not. It *is* awesome...until it's not.

    I was trying to think so hard of the music that gave me the sense of youthful unlimited freedom in the past, to capture the sx/so feeling. It's the feeling of being alive, reckless, young and immortal.

    So, here, two very different songs
    Fuck, this was a bit disheartening and feels shortsighted on your part as well. To me it seems most sx/so don't even hit their stride until they're like 30 and have more experience to express their intent/instincts. I can actually relate a lot of what you said back to my teens and early 20s when I was more confused about who I was and my place in the world and I was also drunk/high a lot. :/ Drugs and alcohol helped dampen the intensity I felt for life since without them it seemed too intense to bear. I am a 4 so it is probably different for you but some things you said take me back a few years.

    This post just kind of hit me right in the .




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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Fuck, this was a bit disheartening and feels shortsighted on your part as well. To me it seems most sx/so don't even hit their stride until they're like 30 and have more experience to express their intent/instincts. I can actually relate a lot of what you said back to my teens and early 20s when I was more confused about who I was and my place in the world and I was also drunk/high a lot. :/ Drugs and alcohol helped dampen the intensity I felt for life since without them it seemed too intense to bear. I am a 4 so it is probably different for you but some things you said take me back a few years.

    This post just kind of hit me right in the .

    Aww, thanks Aylen . Sorry, I can get a bit dramatic about future and life in general when drunk .It kinda builds up from my everyday attitude I guess. I'm not intending to jump off a bridge anytime soon and I definitely shouldn't be allowed to type under influence

    Yeah, I can imagine you probably get a lot more stable and at peace with yourself and life in your 30's. You also change all the time, so what you need now or what you find ecxciting now will probably be quite different ten years from now. So... to the future


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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post

    It's the feeling of being alive, reckless, young and immortal.
    Yes!! I AM young though. ...I'll be curious to see how/if this changes for me in my mid to late 20s... and 30s.

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    Girl - SEE Sx/So
    DJ - EII Sp/So

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    Quote Originally Posted by suedehead View Post
    Girl - SEE Sx/So
    DJ - EII Sp/So
    "Just enjoy the party like everyone else, ok? You're getting creepy." Sx/so problems.

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    If it's about hot EIEs, watch this chick (sorry if you can't decipher Spanish...) :



    http://en.musicplayon.com/play?v=418571




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    This is what sx/so feels like to me: ubiquitous burning light and some sort of back-and-forth rhythm (pulsating fluctuations of intensity ...not ascending and hyper-focused as sx/sp)






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    How accurate are these descriptions? http://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.com/nine-stacks/ I'm leaning towards sx/so again!
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    6w5 sx/so




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    LSI sx/so - Clio Cresswell




    Vivien Leigh - sx/so




    Poets of the Fall - Daze - sx/so music

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    SLE gymnastics

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    SLE-Ti E6 sx/so


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    The killer in "Se7en" is Sx/So (likely E1). His crusade is very much one that is supposed to "cleanse" society from their sins, with a misanthropic force.


    Very similar sentiment and dynamic can be seen in Rorschach's character, also Sx/So (likely E8).

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    pornless Sexual 6
    (probably Sx/so)




    ** I heard complaints this thread is somewhat deviant.
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    Andreas Weizel and Alina Süggeler (center) - both sx/so









    Cory Kennedy & Cobrasnake - Sx/so couple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    SLE-Ti E6 sx/so

    The dudes an Fi drama queen.

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    Jack Donovan - Sx/So 3w4?



    "Blood-brotherhood is probably almost as old as brotherhood itself. There's something archetypal about it, something that echoes and reverberates through human history,. It maintains a certain resonance with men even in our own times, although blood has been stripped of the magical qualities attributed to it by our ancestors and science has revealed that even as the blood flowing through our veins carries nutrients and life to our cells, blood can also be the bringer of disease and death.

    "The desire to create blood-brotherhood seems to be a natural outgrowth of male friendship, and acknowledgement of the simple fact that men often develop bonds with men outside their biological family just as they do with their own kin. It is an answer to the question, "Why should we, too, not be brothers?" Blood-brotherhood extends the biological family; it creates a meta-family - a family beyond family. It borrows from the emotional range natural to brotherhood - loyalty, camaraderie, mutually understood trust, and a sense of mutual empathy and attachment based on shared history, experiences and interests. In recognition of the fact that the same emotions can be shared between men who are not related by blood, blood-brotherhood extends many of the privileges of brotherhood to a male friend. While in some cultures blood-brotherhood is a political gesture, in other cultures the practice of making blood-brother is the acknowledgement of a very real, intense friendship between otherwise unrelated men. The status, privileges and loyalty accorded to a blood-brother often surpassed those of a biological brother. In fact, blood-brotherhoods were often so important that they took precedence over all other human connections, including marriage."

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    Audre Lorde is sx/so E6w5 or E2w3 -- IEE-Fi by my estimations. Of course it's easy to argue that Feminism on the whole as a movement is sx/so, but obviously many writers support it via methods that could be correlated to other stacks.





    THERE ARE MANY kinds of power, used and unused, acknowledged
    or otherwise. The erotic is a resource within each of us
    that lies in a deeply female and spiritual plane, firmly rooted in
    the power of our unexpressed or unrecognized feeling. In order
    to perpetuate itself, every oppression must corrupt or distort
    those various sources of power within the culture of the oppressed
    that can provide energy for change. For women, this has
    meant a suppression of the erotic as a considered source of
    power and information within our lives. (...)

    It is a short step from there to the false belief that only by the
    suppression of the erotic within our lives and consciousness can
    women be truly strong. But that strength is illusory, for it is
    fashioned within the context of male models of power. (...)


    But the erotic offers a well of replenishing and provocative
    force to the woman who does not fear its revelation, nor succumb
    to the belief that sensation is enough.
    The erotic has often been misnamed by men and used against
    women. It has been made into the confused, the trivial, the
    psychotic, the plasticized sensation. For this reason, we have
    often turned away from the exploration and consideration of
    the erotic as a source of power and information, confusing it
    with its opposite, the pornographic. But pornography is a direct
    denial of the power of the erotic, for it represents the suppression
    of true feeling. Pornography emphasizes sensation without
    feeling.
    The erotic is a measure between the beginnings of our sense of
    self and the chaos of our strongest feelings. It is an internal sense
    of satisfaction to which, once we have experienced it, we know
    we can aspire. For having experienced the fullness of this depth
    of feeling and recognizing its power, in honor and self-respect we
    can require no less of ourselves.

    The very word erotic comes from the Greek word eros, the personification
    of love in all its aspects - born of Chaos, and personifying
    creative power and harmony. When I speak of the
    erotic, then, I speak of it as an assertion of the lifeforce of
    women; of that creative energy empowered, the knowledge and
    use of which we are now reclaiming in our language, our
    history, our dancing, our loving, our work, our lives.
    There are frequent attempts to equate pornography and
    eroticism, two diametrically opposed uses of the sexual. Because
    of these attempts, it has become fashionable to separate the
    spiritual (psychic and emotional) from the political, to see the~
    as contradictory or antithetical. "What do you mean, a poetic
    revolutionary, a meditating gunrunner?"(...)

    But this erotic charge is not easily shared by women who continue
    to operate under an exclusively european-american male
    tradition. I know it was not available to me when I was trying to
    adapt my consciousness to this mode of living and sensation.
    Only now, I find more and more women-identified women
    brave enough to risk sharing the erotic's electrical charge
    without having to look away, and without distorting the enormously
    powerful and creative nature of that exchange.
    Recognizing the power of the erotic within our lives can give us
    the energy to pursue genuine change within our world, rather
    than merely settling for a shift of characters in the same weary
    drama.


    --- Uses of the Erotic: the Erotic as Power (Sister Outsider)


    http://www.cds.hawaii.edu/sites/defa...terOutside.pdf




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    I would think feminism is so/sp. def contra flow, but more ideological loft and implicit maintenance of broad-scale socio-emotional control/stability/strength. I guess I could see some facets of its implementation being sx/so, though.
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    So/sp is more about maintaining a comfortable desired order and of course controlling the social or political scene. Feminism aimed at disrupting an existing hegemony and it can be associated with the tearing/disobeying and transforming energetic qualities of Sx/so:

    Energetic qualities associated with sx/so: ripping, tearing, destroying, breaking, burning, disapproving, disobeying, dismissing, ridiculing, alienating, crowing, ranting, screaming, displaying, exposing, joining, embodying, asserting, confronting, changing, reinventing, transforming, breaking through, leaving behind, going overboard
    While there may be some so/sp aspects (at least there are many names in the feminist movement who speak so/sp or sp/so language -- Patricia Hill Collins, Julia Kristeva, ..), the general purpose is cultural change rather than mere political power. Sx/so at its best is not about dancing half-naked on a table at a party in order to creep people out, but about some sort of cultural revolution and shattering of a status quo. So/sp feeds on the status quo and is willing to be disruptive to defend it (think Nazism); however I have the impression ideology is sometimes subordinated to this core need, namely control of potential deviations (via norms) and power.
    Sx/so has a heretical quality to it. This is what Feminism does after all: uniting groups that experience a form of marginality in order to enact change. There have been many variants or feminism and I would say radical feminism is the most Sx/so; not only does it rebuff the patriarchal order, but it deconstructs the very structures of societies as "difference" is regarded as a form of superiority, not deficiency (radical feminism doesn't claim equality, it overthrows and seeks to destroy patriarchy). Other trends such as Marxist feminism used more So&Sp weapons.


    sx/so - The World of Devas (Gods) - cultural revolutionaries, directional shift in popular culture, the cultural zeitgeist

    Sx/so is the "social revolutionary" stacking - leaning more toward cultural change than political change, IMO, though the two are obviously not mutually exclusive. [So/sp seems like the bigger player in the area of socio-political/governmental change.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    So/sp is more about maintaining a comfortable desired order and of course controlling the social or political scene. Feminism aimed at disrupting an existing hegemony and it can be associated with the tearing/disobeying and transforming energetic qualities of Sx/so:
    I don't see standard feminism being all that oppositional or divisive, really. and there are plenty of movements that sought to disrupt the existing hegemony, that doesn't make them all sx/so, lol. I see feminism operating primarily on a socio-political level, applying pressure across the spectrum to steadily shift the status quo, with a solid vision of what norms/standards for females should be in place.

    While there may be some so/sp aspects (at least there are many names in the feminist movement who speak so/sp or sp/so language -- Patricia Hill Collins, Julia Kristeva, ..), the general purpose is cultural change rather than mere political power. Sx/so at its best is not about dancing half-naked on a table at a party in order to creep people out, but about some sort of cultural revolution and shattering of a status quo. So/sp feeds on the status quo and is willing to be disruptive to defend it (think Nazism); however I have the impression ideology is sometimes subordinated to this core need, namely control of potential deviations (via norms) and power.
    Sx/so has a heretical quality to it. This is what Feminism does after all: uniting groups that experience a form of marginality in order to enact change. There have been many variants or feminism and I would say radical feminism is the most Sx/so; not only does it rebuff the patriarchal order, but it deconstructs the very structures of societies as "difference" is regarded as a form of superiority, not deficiency (radical feminism doesn't claim equality, it overthrows and seeks to destroy patriarchy). Other trends such as Marxist feminism used more So&Sp weapons.
    well, I see it attempting to attain and wield political power to effect cultural change, in ways; and it's never struck me as that heretical (in the positive sense). it's the steadiness and longer-range operational mode that suggest so/sp to me, and I think it's short-sighted to attribute feeding on/disrupting the status quo to one stacking alone.

    but I agree that radical feminism is sx/so.
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    Sometimes I LOVE being sx/so. Other times I do feel the way darya does.. it's so painful when you're glowing and burning in a world that's totally repelling and unresponsive to your fire.. ice cold..


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Sometimes I LOVE being sx/so. Other times I do feel the way darya does.. it's so painful when you're glowing and burning in a world that's totally repelling and unresponsive to your fire.. ice cold..
    Loving yourself for who you are is always the way to be

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    I agree that Frida Gold (>> Alina Süggeler) is all sx/so.



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    Kinda torn b/w sx/so and so/sx for Donald Glover for a while. He's excitable and frantic enough for any sp-last at any rate.

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    So/Sx.

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    I'm quite convinced anyone who arranges their knowledge/ ideas about people into "hey, man, there's these 5 distinct types supposed to apriorically guide you through life from now on" is a Ti type -- dude above is more likely SLE than Gamma (aka SEE).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Kinda torn b/w sx/so and so/sx for Donald Glover for a while. He's excitable and frantic enough for any sp-last at any rate.
    Why do you say being excitable and frantic = sp last?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Why do you say being excitable and frantic = sp last?
    I guess I could clarify. Being sp-last doesn't give someone Glover's directionless hyper-energy by default, but I find it hard to imagine a sp-first or sp-second type that can match it. Glover specifically being E7 (and also being on stage as an entertainer) makes this sp-lastness shine.

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    This movie kinda strikes me as sx/so. It also has naked Eva Green in it.

    The Dreamers Trailer [x]


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    Bertolucci is solid sx/so --- Last Tango in Paris would have been my first and foremost example.



    https://archive.org/details/LastTang...ardoBertolucci




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLNbRXG_v1E

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    Blink 182 - Feeling This
    Hahahaha, just thought of this song today, and it's very sx/so imo, the video and the lyrics! This is happy, free, unrestrained, rebellious. Yes, it's cheesy and kind of a joke but still.

    And one of the most Beta Fe sx/so bands EVER - Japandroids. All their songs are about staying in that perennial youth moment...



    When they love you and they will
    Tell them all, they'll love in my shadow
    And if they try to slow you down
    Tell them all, to go to hell

    It's a lifeless life with no fixed address to give
    But you're not mine to die for anymore, so I must live
    Born of a bottle from heaven's hand
    And now you know, and here I am


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    Is Kanye West Sx/So, or manic?



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