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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Yes. Scarlett, I totally get you. Video might be a little cheesy - but this feeling of being 'alive' is exactly what I feel when Im allowed to just be myself! Sometimes I feel like I have so much potential 'aliveness' that is going nowhere...! Sx/so
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    This might be a bit E3 too. heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post


    This might be a bit E3 too. heh
    Ehhh... This is just too sleazy and materialistic, I don't really see how it represents sx/so feeling of "alive" ... definitely more representative of and E3. Then again it's freakin' Miley Cyrus - gross.


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    Miley Cyrus is likely sp/so - the stacking most opposite of sx/so. She's got this simple calculating pragmatism to her that comes through her interviews. But it's a good example of how seductive/sexual displays don't have to involve the sx instinct.

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    To me, sx/so is an abandonment to LIFE. Its that euphoric 'edge' feeling you get when your car stops right before a cliff, but doesn't fall over. lol. My own analogy for sx/so is an experience I get when Im running; I push myself as fast as I possibly can go - and I get the same feeling I long for in relationship to other people: abandonment, intensity, vulnerability, and LIFE.

    Everyone will embody sx/so differently, depending on their preferred functions... Perhaps this explains why there is rather a variety of posts on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Miley Cyrus is likely sp/so - the stacking most opposite of sx/so. She's got this simple calculating pragmatism to her that comes through her interviews. But it's a good example of how seductive/sexual displays don't have to involve the sx instinct.
    Yes. And I also have a theory that the 'sexiest' people are often not sx first, but actually second. I think that the second variant is usually the most apparent one. Because that is the means of getting the most important desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Ehhh... This is just too sleazy and materialistic, I don't really see how it represents sx/so feeling of "alive" ... definitely more representative of and E3. Then again it's freakin' Miley Cyrus - gross.
    Feeling alive isn't all sunshine and roses for me. Lots of things can make one feel alive, like drugs and dancing. I just associate things with things Nothing set in stone though. I had no clue on her type and stacking and was more associating with some of the males in the video. Not Miley. I am not fond of her either even though I used to watch her disney show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Yes. And I also have a theory that the 'sexiest' people are often not sx first, but actually second. I think that the second variant is usually the most apparent one. Because that is the means of getting the most important desire.
    I don't agree ... sx/so is sexy in a raw, immediate, and in-your-face way. Something visceral and unambiguous. Sexy in a more showy and maybe more elaborate way - sx second (the exhibitionism of the second instinct). Sx/sp is usually more invested in stuff like make-up, clothes, fashion, hairstyle, jewelry etc. ... ways to support and meet the demands of the primary instinct. At least that's how I've often seen sp support manifest. In men ...more as it was explained before, displays of fortitude, resistance, survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Yes. And I also have a theory that the 'sexiest' people are often not sx first, but actually second. I think that the second variant is usually the most apparent one. Because that is the means of getting the most important desire.
    I don't think I can attribute sexy to an instinct. I don't really see people as sexy. I see energy as sexy, a behavior, a way of saying a certain phrase. I tend to see an object or person sexy in the moment but it passes. I am not sure if I am explaining this right though. I can relate to a lot of what you say about how your express sx first but I connect it just to sx energy in general and not to a stacking. Someone with weak sx is not usually going to hold my attention for long.

    I am sometimes put off by people who see certain aspects of me as being sexy when I do not intend them that way. I think sometimes strong energy comes off as sexy and it is an automatic response to see it as sexual attraction. If I have a mutual attraction to the person saying I am being sexual or sexy toward them it does not bother me but other times it feels intrusive to me if someone is saying I am being sexy or turning them on and I am not intending to.

    When I am attracted to someone I think there is little doubt in their mind because I make it clear. If I am sending mixed signals it is usually on their side of things and not mine. I had a unrequited love situation a few years ago that left me drained because I got tired of telling him that I did not see him that way but I did feel a strong attraction to him on a spiritual level. It kind of messed up our friendship when I got into a relationship with someone else and he couldn't understand why it was the other person and not him. He thought the other person was repulsive. I am pretty sure the other guy EIE sx/so. The one who was jealous was probably sp/sx.

    I just don't automatically associate physical sexy or sexual to the same ideas and images other people do. I can watch porn and not feel a thing but then the right person says something like, "you are mine" and I am willing to sacrifice everything for them. *sigh*
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    but hey ..the stack is more about energy and priorities ....after all good looks are mainly genetic, right? I mean, isn't Scarlett Johansson typed sp/so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    I don't agree ... sx/so is sexy in a raw, immediate, and in-your-face way. Something visceral and unambiguous. Sexy in a more showy way - sx second (the exhibitionism of the second instinct). Sx/sp is usually more invested in stuff like make-up, clothes, fashion, hairstyle, jewelry etc. ... ways to support and meet the demands of the primary instinct. At least that's how I've often seen sp support manifest. In men ...more as it was explained before, displays of fortitude, resistance, survival.
    I do agree with the bolded part as I connect it to the descriptions to the instincts and try to consider some kind of Te type information but like I just posted it is an in the moment thing for me. The so/sx people I know often seem to have moments of innocently sexy but I am not sure they even know it. I like to think the sx first people just know they are sx first and don't even need to look for external validation. I am not saying they are sexy, for the record.

    I do love my fashion and makeup but not in a for others way. When I go out I go all out even though I am not usually on the prowl

    The people who I think are sexy on this site usually have a strong almost dominating energy, at times but I think you knew that. For me it is hardly ever a physical thing first.

    I like it when people post their ideas on this stuff. It really is helpful in trying to organize it all and make sense of it in my personal framework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    but hey ..the stack is more about energy and priorities ....after all good looks are mainly genetic, right? I mean, isn't Scarlett Johansson typed sp/so?
    I prefer your energy to Scarlett's. She is very attractive though, technically.

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    Scarlett is sp/so (could maybe be the other way around, but I don't think so) imo. She's very dry in interviews and when you listen to what she talks about, how her private life is and what her priorities are, i get a strong sp vibe from her (always talks about how all she wants is to stay home and bake cookies and tells lame jokes about her Jewish grandma, who seems to be her best friend - probably because they're both old souls lol). I'm always disappointing and surprised by how boring she comes across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    The so/sx people I know often seem to have moments of innocently sexy but I am not sure they even know it. I like to think the sx first people just know they are sx first and don't even need to look for external validation. I am not saying they are sexy, for the record.
    I think this external validation thing is kinda what I was talking about above: the first instinct is who you are, subconsciously, while the second instinct is how you get it, consciously. So, I do agree that an sx first is going to have the greatest intense energy, but I also think an sx second will come across as more in-your-face sexy (whatever that means... ), consciously using the sx instinct to get either safety and security, or social comfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    I think this external validation thing is kinda what I was talking about above: the first instinct is who you are, subconsciously, while the second instinct is how you get it, consciously. So, I do agree that an sx first is going to have the greatest intense energy, but I also think an sx second will come across as more in-your-face sexy (whatever that means... ), consciously using the sx instinct to get either safety and security, or social comfort.
    I think I know what you mean, kind of, sort of, but not sure. I do not get the same intensity from so or sp first and by intensity I am not talking sexual ,so what others may find "in your face sexy" I may not even notice 'cause it doesn't even register as being sexy to me. People who try to be sexy on purpose I may not find sexy at all. This does get confusing since perception is such a unique thing. I am not ready to dub any type sexy at this point. I just know it when I see/hear/feel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agni View Post
    I don't agree ... sx/so is sexy in a raw, immediate, and in-your-face way. Something visceral and unambiguous. Sexy in a more showy and maybe more elaborate way - sx second (the exhibitionism of the second instinct). Sx/sp is usually more invested in stuff like make-up, clothes, fashion, hairstyle, jewelry etc. ... ways to support and meet the demands of the primary instinct. At least that's how I've often seen sp support manifest. In men ...more as it was explained before, displays of fortitude, resistance, survival.
    I don't think we really disagree... I knew I should have clarified a bit more when I used the word 'sexy.' I guess when I think of sexy I think of what you call the "showy and elaborate" way. Kind of like when someone is trying really hard, like a porn star (I kinda doubt porn stars are often sx first - they would not be satisfied doing porn ). I do think, and I think you'd agree, that sx first types are the most deeply sexual people you'll meet. But it is such a part of how they relate to others, they don't need to flaunt it (I think Aylen said something similar). Sx first people can't help being Sexual - they can't 'turn it off,' (as an Sp/Sx could, if for example, they suddenly obtained the material security they needed). I talk about this problem with my sx/sp friend: she mourns the fact that her level of sexuality is profoundly awkward at times. She'll just walk into a room, and feel sexual energy emanating from her, and is not sure how to deal with it. lol.

    I see a difference between being Sexual, and being Sexy. ...not sure how to describe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    People who try to be sexy on purpose I may not find sexy at all.
    Um, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    I kinda doubt porn stars are often sx first - they would not be satisfied doing porn
    There are many sx first porn stars. I don't think porn stars are doing porn to be "satisfied" Sexual instinct shows differently in different E types and people of different E types and stackings (some more likely than others) would be doing porn out of different motivations,

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Sexual instinct shows differently in different E types and people of different E types and stackings (some more likely than others) would be doing porn out of different motivations,
    Well... I feel like we all do what we do in order to more or less be 'satisfied' somehow.
    Definitely agree about the different E types though - care to give some examples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Well... I feel like we all do what we do in order to more or less be 'satisfied' somehow.
    Definitely agree about the different E types though - care to give some examples?
    Linda Lovelace was probably sx first, from the books I read I could not see anything else first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Well... I feel like we all do what we do in order to more or less be 'satisfied' somehow.
    Definitely agree about the different E types though - care to give some examples?
    First of all, half of them probably just need money for crack

    No, seriously...It really depends if they're crazy, hedonistic "messy" individuals (sp last) or decided to do porn as a sort of business career, pragmatically (sp first), for example.

    As far as sx firsts go, I would say predominantly:

    3 .....Exhibitionistic, self as a display object for other's people fantasies.
    7......Needs to try anything once, experience junkie.

    Possible:

    2.... .Maybe some kind of daddy issues, confusing being desirable with love (probably fluffers lol)
    8.......Wants to sex all the hot porn-stars into submission (jk,this type is probably not all that common)

    Others are probably less likely, but I could see anything with 3, 7 and 8 wings..

    But i'm not an expert on porn star typings, so don't quote me on these.

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    Serge Gainsbourg is probably SLE sx/so. His mistress' type is not clear to me ...LSI/IEI/ESI something .... and from a distance sx/sp. I know much more about his life, personality, and adventures than hers.




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    I'm feeling much less convinced about sx/so for me. <_<
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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    3 .....Exhibitionistic, self as a display object for other's people fantasies
    Back when I was skinny I used to say, "I'm not an exhibitionist. I just don't give a fuck." I would probably still feel that way if I was skinny right now.

    So anyways... I think I'm probably not sx/so after all. (And obviously it's not just because of this. lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Back when I was skinny I used to say, "I'm not an exhibitionist. I just don't give a fuck." I would probably still feel that way if I was skinny right now.

    So anyways... I think I'm probably not sx/so after all. (And obviously it's not just because of this. lol)
    I wouldn't know, but an LSE 9w8 sx/so would be quite an unusual combination. It's really difficult for me to get a grasp of such a person


    I also wanted to add that I disagree it's necessarily the sx/ sp that brings the investment in stuff like make-up, clothes, fashion, hairstyle, jewelry etc. ... It's more the image triad in itself together with sx that does this, particularly double image types are the most concerned with these things (2w3,3w2, 3w4 and 4w3).

    Madonna is a clear sx/so for example, and no one can deny her ridiculous plastic face lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    I wouldn't know, but an LSE 9w8 sx/so would be quite an unusual combination. It's really difficult for me to get a grasp of such a person


    I also wanted to add that I disagree it's necessarily the sx/ sp that brings the investment in stuff like make-up, clothes, fashion, hairstyle, jewelry etc. ... It's more the image triad in itself together with sx that does this, particularly double image types are the most concerned with these things (2w3,3w2, 3w4 and 4w3).

    Madonna is a clear sx/so for example, and no one can deny her ridiculous plastic face lol.
    I'm a strange representation of my type whatever it may be. I was just recently told that I have the most obvious Fi seeking this particular Fi ego person had ever seen. 0_o

    Some of the IEIs here think Madonna is LSE, btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    I'm a strange representation of my type whatever it may be. I was just recently told that I have the most obvious Fi seeking this particular Fi ego person had ever seen. 0_o

    Some of the IEIs here think Madonna is LSE, btw.
    I'm not sure of Madonna's type, I can actually see a case for her being LSE. But I would still go with SLE 3w4 sx/so, if you put a gun to my head She is kinda scary though lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    Sx/So - sunny, fiery, inciting

    Energetic qualities associated with sx/so: ripping, tearing, destroying, breaking, burning, disapproving, disobeying, dismissing, ridiculing, alienating, crowing, ranting, screaming, displaying, exposing, joining, embodying, asserting, confronting, changing, reinventing, transforming, breaking through, leaving behind, going overboard

    fire (sx)+ gas (so) = human blowtorch

    sx/so - The World of Devas (Gods) - cultural revolutionaries, directional shift in popular culture, the cultural zeitgeist

    Writing style: "Fire-and-ice", as if one is to experience the extremes of heat and coldness at the same time. Often abstract, spilling one inner vision after another like a dream-sequence. Seems particularly in touch with the core meaning of life and death.

    Why do sx/so's project open sexual energy?
    -sx/soc's establish status and relate to others through emotion and sexuality: so ---> into ---> sx
    ...just because I love this poem and it was the first thing that came into my mind when I was trying to find concrete examples for sx/so writing style


    Fire and Ice

    --Robert Frost

    Some say the world will end in fire,

    Some say in ice.
    From what I've tasted of desire
    I hold with those who favor fire.
    But if it had to perish twice,
    I think I know enough of hate
    To say that for destruction ice
    Is also great
    And would suffice.

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    This is a painting rooted in the poker scene in the play/movie A Streetcar Named Desire. I think the whole atmosphere (charged up by Stanley Kowalski, ofc) is sx/so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Estel View Post
    Sx first people can't help being Sexual - they can't 'turn it off,' (as an Sp/Sx could, if for example, they suddenly obtained the material security they needed). I talk about this problem with my sx/sp friend: she mourns the fact that her level of sexuality is profoundly awkward at times. She'll just walk into a room, and feel sexual energy emanating from her, and is not sure how to deal with it. lol.

    I see a difference between being Sexual, and being Sexy. ...not sure how to describe...
    I feel the same way honestly. Not to boast or anything.. haha, it's not even something to really boast about. I just feel myself always being very intense anywhere I am, like people can feel the energy coming off of me and it's somehow sexual. I think it's because I'm always looking for someone to deeply connect with? I feel like I have laser vision in groups.. I love being social and whatnot, but I will always try and focus in on someone to really get to know..

    Meh, also I love sex. Hahahaha


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    Ok, so I will try to describe how I relate to the sx/so energy in me (or whatever kinda energy I'm feeling, no matter how you wanna call it). It's really not about being dressed like a stripper or being a porn-star, because I'm neither. I'm actually quite reserved and concerned about how I come across when you first get to know me (3w4 after all).I had problems with thinking of appropriate art work or music to describe stackings before, so I went for the obvious.

    Firstly, the sx/so energy has sp as a bling spot, so I feel like a perpetual teenage rebel. Yeah, right now I'm young and I have world at my feet (delusions I know), but I can just feel the feeling of time running out creeping down my back.

    The word intense in relation with sx/so can be deceiving imo, cause I think people with sp first or second can often come off more intense- they're like a pressure cooker - more sullen and moody than sx/so.

    Sx/so is more like a glowing ball, sparking up when something lights up its interest and burning up until this particular thing turns to dust. And then it turns to ice.

    I honestly feel like it's the shittiest and least useful stacking to be, because once it runs out of its youthful fuel/glow, what is it going to do? Fall into deep depression? I can just see that in my future. No spark, no fucking life. I can see sx/so being useful for revolutions and people being ready to sacrifice their lives for a passionate cause, but it' the stacking that's really only acceptable in youth in our passionless culture.

    And after certain age people are just going to treat you as a total outcast, if you will continue with your sx/so ways.That's why I have a sneaking suspicion many people with this stacking just off themselves after a certain age (27 club and such) - they are certainly impulsive enough for it as well.

    I'm kinda drunk, so forgive me my rant, I just don't understand why people think being sx/so is so glamorous. Cause it's not. It *is* awesome...until it's not.

    I was trying to think so hard of the music that gave me the sense of youthful unlimited freedom in the past, to capture the sx/so feeling. It's the feeling of being alive, reckless, young and immortal.

    So, here, two very different songs




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    "Coolside Sx/So (strong so) - 'Cooled' by So with some intellectual reserve. Pulls from the So/Sp's secondary political activist streak. Tends to channel Sx into social causes. Gives a fire-and-ice feelings in discussions."
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    Adam Cadwell vibes sx/so :

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    Axl vibes sx/so to me.


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    Sx/so is the "social revolutionary" stacking - leaning more toward cultural change than political change, IMO, though the two are obviously not mutually exclusive. [So/sp seems like the bigger player in the area of socio-political/governmental change.] With the soc-variant in second position, sx-first energy is more phallic, a concentrated cluster of nerves [sx] leaning forward, poking at the collective emotional space [soc]; introducing heat which causes molecular agitation in social groups, probing and forcing psychological exposure. And without the self-protective 'pullback' from sp concerns, it's a "no holes barred" scenario.

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