The girl described appears to have 4D-Fe and 1D-Ti. It remains to be seen if this Fe is directed and purposeful, that is, consistent with the Base position.
The girl described appears to have 4D-Fe and 1D-Ti. It remains to be seen if this Fe is directed and purposeful, that is, consistent with the Base position.
Beta/Gamma extrovert from this part, i would rule out poor IEEs and ESEs.
"Maybe it was wrong to call it Fi, I just mean that when she's talking with you sometimes, you feel really pressured by her and shes unaware or doesn't care that she is making other people uncomfortable. she told me that a lot of people are "intimidated" when they first meet her and i would agree with that. she can be quite probing and intense
If someone pressured her inconsistencies I think she would get extremely defensive. Whenever I start to I just back off because I dont want to deal with it, i usually just laugh when i notice one.
Spiteful: If I miss a call from her, or do something she doesn't like, she will try to punish me by giving me the silent treatment, but i just do it right back to her until one of us cracks lol... she always always tries to make me jealous, and i think its a joke. she tries to be subtle about it but its so obvious to me that i just sidestep it and probably just make her even angrier sometimes"
IEIs don't have dialectical-algorithmic cognition (they're vortical-synergetic). Maybe you're thinking of EIE, the type the OP asked about. I also think any type can become self-contradicting if they're psychologically wrecked.Originally Posted by fighter
On a more general note, since I'm posting in this thread: EIEs as a species don't behave as the OP describes. I don't know any type that as a rule acts like that, it's mostly NTR as others (@Solaris) have pointed out.
I also agree with the earlier assertion that ExFx is all that seems strongly likely from what he said, but even that is questionable.
Yes. That's right. I meant EIE. (I've been extremely busy lately and wrote that incorrectly.) So ENFj is off the table...
totally inaccurate. read this for a better understanding of DA cog > http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Victor-DarkAngelFireWolf69
EIEs contradict themselves heavily, but can respond well to someone solving that for them and showing them where they're being inconsistent (which the dude in the OP obviously cannot do and thus he comes here to rant about type-me-thread). That's a good way to make them chill out. Fi creatives are not interested in such things and don't welcome them.
Fi-creatives will typically respond with a kind of semi-spiteful disregard to having their inconsistencies pointed out, whereas Fe-dominants, despite being more open to having them resolved, can easily become defensive if pressed about them, as it's an area they highly value.
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The essential distinguishing feature of the Dialectical style, is a view of the universe as a unified struggle of opposites. In speech it often uses syntactic constructions "if-then-else", the predictive branches of a developing process. Within limits, the Dialectic strives to find an intermediate point of dynamic equilibrium between contrasting extremes. Dialectical cognition is born from the colliding flow and counterflow of thought, the consciousness and unconsciousness. Thinkers of this style are characterized by an express inclination towards the synthesis of opposites, the removal of contradictions, which they so keenly perceive.
- http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Victor-DarkAngelFireWolf69
No. Dialectical-Algorithmic types attempt to remove contradictions (remember, it's either "yes" or "no" for an algorithm), which just so happens to benefit Casual-Determinist types by unveiling endpoints during complex problem recognition and the establishment of an algorithm by perception; we're talking about creating an end to circularity by Dialectical-Algorithmic types for Casual-Determinist types. That is, Dialectical-Algorithmic types perceive the algorithm (or map with an end point) that is needed to reduce the risk of circularity and hold together the links created by Causal-Determinism or else Casual-Determinists will shut down and go no further. "If even one link fails for any reason, then Determinists lose their sense of rationale and find it difficult to act because they see no reason to."
I really love the crossover between DarkAngelFireWolf69's cognition styles and Sergei's profile descriptions from Socionics.com.
"When INTps speak publicly they habitually adopt a slow, monotone speech pattern. This may have a sleep inducing hypnotic effect on their audience. INTps are good at noticing contradictions in theories or opinions and can focus others attention to this."
- http://www.socionics.com/prof/intp.htm
"The other version is slow suggestion, primarily based on entrainment through rhythmic vocalization and/or sound, multiple repetitions of the same phrase with variation. Variations in this case are particularly significant, working akin to the chorus in a song. Gradually a trance state is reached—external relaxation with internal concentration. The greater the monotony, the sooner a deep trance is reached. Hence why some people rapidly settle down and fall asleep under a monotone 'bubnezh' TV."
- http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Victor-DarkAngelFireWolf69
Oh, and don't you just love the LSIs and their predilection for "the end times" with their hidden agenda "to believe" and their duality partner being an EIE who has Dialectical-Algorithmic cognition and a predisposition for believing in a "creator?" The same goes for ESIs and their hidden agenda "to believe" with an activity partner who has Dialectical-Algorithmic cognition as well.
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NTR?
Not type-related.
Sorry OP, no quadra wants to claim your girlfriend.
ESE. "Overextends herself because she wants to do too much" is fairly textbook 1-dimensional Ni, and fairly opposed to the EIE tendency to hesitate and overplan (and not take enough direct action). The rest is just textbook EF stuff, but I would be inclined to type her ESE > EIE based on what appears to be an attendant instability and she appears to use emotion rather than force/presence to influence people (ESFs both have both, but generally ESEs try to "infect" you with their projects, SEEs try to push you into them).
What do these signs mean—,
, etc.? Why cannot socionists use symbols Ne, Ni etc. as in MBTI? Just because they have somewhat different meaning. Socionics and MBTI, each in its own way, have slightly modified the original Jung's description of his 8 psychological types. For this reason,
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function(extraverted sensing) is first and foremost associated with control and expansion of personal space (which sometimes can manifest in excessive aagression, but often also manifests in a capability of managing lots of people and things).
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69, Dmitri Lytov
Well I'm fairly certain im an SLI now.
I've just been observing myself with her and I just realized SLI fits everything
Oh, why isn't that lovely! So concise...Not type-related.
That also sounds like ESE.
I would like to try and answer this question.
What you are describing may be an example of ISFj
ISFj profile:
http://socionics4you.com/english-humlet3/?lang=en
What in the world would possess you to think that this girl is not a Passionate type?
What do these signs mean—
Just one example: in MBTI, Se (extraverted sensing) is associated with life pleasures, excitement etc. By contrast, the socionic function
For this reason, we consider comparison between MBTI types and socionic types by functions to be rather useless than useful.
-Victor DarkAngelFireWolf69, Dmitri Lytov
Her impressionability, volatility, and aesthetics makes me think of ISFj, who may as yet not be secure in her own character.
ISFj profile: http://socionics4you.com/english-humlet3/?lang=en
this made me L-O-L
Fi valuing
And young ?
Actually, this is Fe all over the place. My LSI ex-GF did this exact thing once, and I quietly freaked out and thought, "This is absolutely not good. Nope. Not at all. Wir kommen zum Ende."
ESE, I don't really relate that much and I'm an EIE so...
As for security seeking and monetary stability I think SEE could make some sense. When you scratch the surface this is their weak suggestible point. I know one who even gets nervous while making risk investments (not real ones) in board games.
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