not talking about this specific video/song, but shakira is e7 so/sx, imo. the guy in the video could be sx/sp, though.Originally Posted by Cassandra
Yeah it is... I got it here.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
"People say “if you don’t lower your standards, you’re gonna end up spending your whole life alone!” like being a healthy, happy, financially independent single adult is actually worse than being stuck in an abusive and/or emotionally unfulfilling relationship with someone who isn’t willing/able to meet your needs. like no offense, but I think I’m gonna choose to be happy rather than throwing myself into a relationship just for the sake of being in a relationship."
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“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Barns Courtney - LII (?) sx/sp
Last edited by lynn; 04-28-2017 at 11:25 AM.
Hm, that sounds more like Sp/Sx to me."People say “if you don’t lower your standards, you’re gonna end up spending your whole life alone!” like being a healthy, happy, financially independent single adult is actually worse than being stuck in an abusive and/or emotionally unfulfilling relationship with someone who isn’t willing/able to meet your needs. like no offense, but I think I’m gonna choose to be happy rather than throwing myself into a relationship just for the sake of being in a relationship."
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Meaning - healthy SX, anti-standard So blind spot --> SP/SX? I can see it flipped around like that, too.
Well, Sp/Sx has healthier Sx naturally. The comment is also contraflow, it has an attitude of "going against the grain". Then there is a focus on how being healthy and financially independent is more valuable than being in a relationship. All of that is rather Sp/Sx, imo.
@Aylen, what do you think?
True! Asking @Starfall as well to see how she relates to it.
I think I do have conscious standards of living. I like nice things but to be honest I have no conscious standards for a relationship (which reminds me of your list). It is very instinctual, whether it is on a base or spiritual level. I have walked away from everything I owned for a relationship, more than once. Those things are not that important considering I have gotten them back over and over. Material things are rather easy for me to get but I hardly remember thinking about getting them or thinking of having financial stability. It just works out that way. I don't ever see myself walking away from a relationship to have a higher standard of living though. Even if the relationship makes me feel miserable sometimes. Life is not all sunshine and roses so if you can't weather the bad times with someone then I don't think they are that important to you to begin with. I could live in a shack for love but not for an infatuation though.I don't know if that answers the question or not. I am just rambling what came to mind. lol
Edit: I just read @Starfall's response. I would not say I fall in love easily but when I do it is for a long time and it takes something pretty huge for me break the connection.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Thanks for the lengthy and direct elaboration. I strongly support this, and I'm glad to hear you found comfort. You do as you please, no matter what your mom or society wants you to do, period. In fact, screw these entitled, insecure idiots who don't care about your wellbeing but only their standards and expectations.
Well you have a lot of feeling going on there, for certain. Hence I'm not ignoring it. "We need a way to only like certain parts of posts already." Well, ain't that cute?D Basically, MBTi and Socionics is just different takes on the same thing. You know, the thing called reality. The 16 types are points of references, which you can shift all you want. Socionics distinguishes btw subtypes if I recall correctly, at least two. But would ya know which one is the one they take as the main type? If it's actually a subtype ("A or B?" "turbulant or ?") in MBTi? Depends on which one you designate to be the core type. Same with the functions. Depends on how scrutinizing you are and what cases you choose as an example. The Fe using woman who was aggressive or the Fe using INFp who did that doorslam thing. (u know, the thing u said about Fi and excluding people from relationship). And on top of that, it's funny to see that some stereotypes just work out swell.
Last edited by Neokortex; 04-28-2017 at 11:44 PM.
Except for impaired empathy, an ordinary guy who's looking for down-to-earth, loving, loyal friends and a geeky, warm, voluptuous girlfriend!
Well, heh, the feelers will always butt heads with the heady types. No, seriously, I don't have problem with the heart types. I have problem, though, with the social heart type. And you'd need a discerning eye to tell them apart. Because heart type Sx/Sps can really turn your world inside out. I won't link the video bc it's not in English. But freakin' hell, it sent me to the deepest, darkest recesses of my soul... What you guys have here is pure vanilla hippyism. I'll tell you, it's PG16 softcore, sexploitation, kitschy, the general folk's meme-culture of the webs. And that's not me saying I didn't like your picture with rainbow panties. Because I did like the rainbow panties. With the reason that they were not men's but they suggested vagina. And straight men gotta love some vagina.
But seriously, though. I met a girl last year on a night when I was hunting, you know, for vagina. And she was... ehm, pretty much initiating. But then she invited me to her workshop, after psychologyzing around some with me. And then she showed me pictures she drew, about... panties, and numbers and weird patterns, that sent me straight into this... vertigo. And then I didn't want to think anymore about vaginas. No, ma'am, the most I wanted is to run, straight out of the workshop, like some bewitched victim of sort. And I knew at that moment that I'm not an Sx heart type. That I locked away my tender little emotions in a cage, destined to suffer like a zombie my whole life and talk about vaginas instead of my true emotions. No, ma'am, I told that girl right away that "I didn't do it!" that I don't know what she means by these stuff, these images, but have nothing to do with my fantasies, or emotions, or anything. I denied it all. I said I'm not objectifying women, she's the one who does those pictures. Cutting women into halves. Because of that Sp secondary. The incongruity btw emotions and corporeal reality. The loss of idealism over flesh. The stormy drama over our humanimal nature. I didn't want any of it. I was okay with being an animal. I didn't want to be an angel. But she was a different sort of... creature. Anyways, I left in big strides, my inner child in twisted turmoil.
And conclusion is: Sx heart types are the most needed in current Western society! They're indispensable! We're doomed, the Mohameds are coming, the army of an emotional, religious culture, keeping together against all odds. And we have Tumblr, YouPorn, Snapchat, shitty dating sites and none keeping us from falling apart. Not even our smartphones. God have mercy on us! Irony and smartness is the bane of our age. And only Sx heart types can take on the fight with the Sx head types. But even then some Gut Sx types need to watch over, since emotions on the altar, but what's the priest doing in his den? Feasting on his profit? Luring in the sweet children? Ofc, not everyone is what it seems.
Except for impaired empathy, an ordinary guy who's looking for down-to-earth, loving, loyal friends and a geeky, warm, voluptuous girlfriend!
@Neokortex You're the one responding to logic with emojis, and claiming some doped-up rockstar type and going on to make pseudointellectual criticisms like some sort of wannabe-philosopher. Post on, trollbro. We need trollbros to keep "not everyone is what it seems" in people's mind over all.
@Jeremy You think that people's inner selves has to completely spill through in all that they do? You can't imagine that someone has a hidden motive or secret agenda, or that some people are just calibrated less straightforwardly than you? Have fun in life with your naïveté...
Well INFPs, I think, generally are lazy by nature. But I wouldn't think of that of the goal oriented Ni dom INFJs. Since previously you mentioned your ENFP friend having an inferior Ni ("symbolic tattoos everywhere"), as if comparing that to yourself.
Okay... what things? Seems like a heightened Se there? Which is shadow at INFPs and Inferior at INFJs. Does that override Fe?I go after things just because I want it. I dont care whether I deserve it (which I don't see the point to think that much.)
Especially considering your 1w2. The conscious delay in self-gratification, postponing fun. Hence I opted for a 9.
Okay... can you tell me a case when you were extremely direct? Especially considering that (4)w5 and E5 pulling you back. You said that "and when I feel that they keep looking at me, I tend to push them away or shy myself away." That's anything but direct.my directness is not related to laziness. "I am lazy" means I don't do everything on the same day, I take rest when I want to. On the other hand I can be extremely direct when I want to. Just different modes of me.
And here:
Do you tell them?But not being controlled. I hate people telling me what is right what is wrong especially in social occasions. I would do anything to shut their fuck up.
Well, that pretty much sounds social. You never had problems with your friends regarding your directness? I often loose potential friendships because of being too honest (and bc of people being too picky nowadays). It sounds like you don't really have anything strong, subversive put out there that would cause some backlash. A stir among your allies. Which is why Sx/Sp is a wandering lonewolf.Why not ?
I keep my fb just as a way to rant and a media to see what my friends are up to (doesn't mean i join their interaction all the time)
Politics ... just because one of my best friends is a very well known politician in my home town. I just wanna keep updated.
Oh i am very superficial. Tall (cuz I am tall), slightly muscular, wide shoulder, good face, beard is a plus.
But I rank personality and intelligence way more than look.
I wouldn't say E8 is non-existent in E1. For someone on PerC wrote that E1 is an E8 chained down. Would you elaborate on that aggression when you actually decided on someone and went after them? What methods do you use? How did it turn out?I just shy myself away, pretending I don't know they want me or I am just uninterested. I am not aggressive with them unless I really want them and going to get them. E8 is non-existent in me. But I know a lot of E8 who want me or (if ladies) wanna befriend me.
Na, the way I see it is that Sx/Sps like to do it outside of the watching gaze of... the Big Brother. It's just not a social matter for us. So that way things can be really freaky for girls. Since they tend to be, khm, physically lesser in strength. So the challenge is for us is to strike the right balance btw being intimidating, creepy and not being a puss. Being social enough and less Sx first. But with Sx/Sps..., honestly I haven't met much of them. Almost none, since I never had time for a second time to reassess. This autistic girl, she said she had been, pretty much had that erratic energy to her, fooling around with me but completely disregarding everyone else in the room, us being in a wavelength that nobody understands. And I backed out because I wasn't into her looks. We could have made out right on the first day I met her. So next day I see her in the dining hall, and ask what she thought of the encounter. She said it had been fine. So I tell her I'm interested in her case, I might be having some autistic traits as well, would invite her out to learn more about it. She gives me her facebook address, then a week later, after she added me, but had not messaged me, I write her that 2 days later I'm ready to see her about the topic. She responds that she feels used, I only want information out of her. And it's because I got too far with all the sexual honesty the first time around, that made me more responsible. I had told her I wasn't interested in her looks but still wanted to see how she reacted if I pushed things just a bit further...sp ....... It's not hard to imagine then why relationship between sx/sps are rare : no one takes a step further.
Last edited by Neokortex; 05-06-2017 at 12:56 AM.
Except for impaired empathy, an ordinary guy who's looking for down-to-earth, loving, loyal friends and a geeky, warm, voluptuous girlfriend!
As I said, you have a lot of feeling going on there. And it's exactly because you offend. Logic is straightforward. But you have more than logic there. You have gestures. You have rhetoric. And that's what is fascinating about INTJs. That they don't want to be seen as controlled by emotions but they still fear uncertainty to a degree that they need always be right and always in control. Unless they withdraw. And yes, it's quite paradoxical that some linger here, around the feelers. Because, according to the stereotype, what, if anything, you have to do with psychology? Sure, we can thank a lot of that logical consistency put into our theories and statistics, psychometrical analyses. But what draws you here, anyways? And why do you have to be the boss? It's like you wanted to show your emotions but at once recoiled by possible shame and then started offending instead? Crap, I can't help seeing Helga from Hey Arnold! Mmm, man, that show was good.
Except for impaired empathy, an ordinary guy who's looking for down-to-earth, loving, loyal friends and a geeky, warm, voluptuous girlfriend!
Not completely, obviusly, but some. You decide what words you choose when you wrote this post^ Its all you.
Yes, and if I want, I can decide to use other words. I've made alts on here that no one noticed were mine, while everyone noticed who yours were even when you denied it.
Yes, everyone has noticed when you have done alts. You have a lunatic 5 vibe that comes through everything.
I have never done any alts nor have I seen anyone say I have any? Tell me who said that and who is supposedly my alt, in that case.
Most of your comebacks are total lies youve made up which is kind of hilarious.
These lyrics by Jhene Aiko and The Chainsmokers strike me as Sx/sp:"Wake Up Alone"
(feat. Jhené Aiko)
Now I got cars, now I got clothes, now I got money
Now I got crowds screamin' my name sayin' they love me
You got real close, say I'm not alone, you understand me
But late at night, when I close my eyes, the quiet scares me
Will you still care in the morning?
When the magic's gone, gone, oh?
And will you be there in the morning?
Do you stay when it all goes?
Or will I wake up alone?
Wake up alone
Wake up alone
I don't need cars, I don't need clothes, forget that money
'Cause if I go home all on my own, it ain't worth nothing
Will you still care in the morning?
When the magic's gone, gone, oh?
And will you be there in the morning?
Do you stay when it all goes?
Or will I wake up alone?
Wake up alone
Wake up alone
Wake up alone
Wake up alone
Will you still care in the morning?
When the magic's gone, gone, oh?
And will you be there in the morning?
Do you stay when it all goes?
Or will I wake up alone?
Wake up alone
Wake up alone
Wake up alone
Or will I wake up alone?
C-EII-INFj 4w3 Sx/sp 479
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