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    Here In The Throat

    I need him
    To wash me of my sin
    To take me from this place
    To heal me of my wounds
    I need him
    To clean your mark off me
    To wipe you from my eyes
    To strike you from my heart
    I need him

    I know, not what, I do or say
    But I, do what, I say and believe

    You need him
    To take you from this place
    To heal you from your wounds
    You need him
    To clean my mark off you
    To wipe me from your eyes
    To strike me from your heart
    You need him

    You are, nothing to me, anymore
    I hope, I mean, nothing to you

    I want a place to hide, somewhere far from your side
    There is no stopping you, there's nothing you won't do
    You're killing for your God, the stench that you have trod
    The world is black to you, until you slay me too

    I'm wasted under you, I meant nothing at all
    Thank God I wasted you, no longer will I fall

    I will live again
    your grasp on me has gone
    your downfall and your end
    At last my peace has come

    Before I end let me tell you
    Never lay down for anyone at all



    I Cannot Be Loved

    Lover put a knife in my hand
    Lay down right there, that's my command
    Do as I say in this blood play
    Claw at my skin, I'll let you win
    Caress your flesh. Burns like fire
    Rosey, sweet breath, and your desire

    Your skin is all I want to take from you
    Your mind is nought unto me,
    I'll leave behind

    Bound together
    The darkest embrace
    Bound forever
    We will be chaste

    I paw at you golden flesh
    Golden breast
    I sail on your, on your sea
    Of ecstasy.

    God, I want you. Just be mine
    Because you haunt me all the time

    Your pain, it talks to me
    Your pain, it really talks to me

    Your pain, it talks to me and I heed it well
    My hands, your neck, they greet each well in a loving hell
    This hold we have can't last because it's killing me
    Farewell my love. Please walk away and take away my pain.


    Edit: This band is one of those weird sx/sp/sx combinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Which pretty much makes it the national sx/sp theme song lol
    That's a shame, 'cause I don't really care for it

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    Women seem to like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Too bad. You're officially stuck with it as your national anthem for all eternity.

    *Galen enters room*
    ((take me to church plays in background))
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    So far this song has been posted 3 times on this forum as sx/sp, once already in this thread

    Which pretty much makes it the national sx/sp theme song lol
    My bad, I can be self-absorbed and oblivious to external trends/what was posted before... my bad, so sorry for having whrecked the social harmony.
    Hope people will survive? Especially Galen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet View Post
    My bad, I can be self-absorbed and oblivious to external trends/what was posted before... my bad, so sorry for having whrecked the social harmony.
    Hope people will survive? Especially Galen..
    if he doesn't, he has to move to sp first and become a plant pierced by a sharp finger and bleeding.

    well yeah, he has an odd insistence of purely personal preferences ..makes me think of Fi and Sx or So last.
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    debatable ... sp/sx also possible ^^^^

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    Didn't really think much of this song until I heard it being used in a contemporary dance performance. It was choreographed and expressed to near perfection - definitely one of my favorites of that night.







    Know similar songs to these? Let me know
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    I realize this song is pretty Sx/Sp.

    Death and Rebirth


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber View Post
    this one is so Ne







    - she first analyses the beliefs ppl hold (psychological reality) and then goes down to the way they start looking for facts and what she calls "physical proof". Any ST would work the other way round.
    She seems really different here.


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    She might actually be Sx-first.

    I trigger people a lot. Even as a child, I seemed to deeply upset people’s cozy, familiar homeostasis. That is in fact how I was labeled with the moniker “The Spiritual Catalyst”. My clients would warn people that like a catalyst, if I came into their lives, they would never be the same. Either my presence would cause someone to go into crisis by pulling up all of their shadows or else I’d cause them to heal by throwing them into the light. Even though I desire to (and do) bring people together and unite them so they feel a deep sense of belonging, like most intense personality types, I tend to polarize people. People don’t meet me and have a moderate reaction to me. They either really love me, or they really hate me and there is not much in between. As a result, I tend to kick up lots of controversy. Growing up, this sucked. And being as sensitive as I am to criticism, it still sucks. It turns out that I care what other people think. And I’m torn because on the one hand, I feel like it is my downfall because I am so easily wounded by things people say and on the other hand, I feel like it is one of my greatest strengths because I am open to people, even to my opposition. Deep down I feel like taking the viewpoints of those who “hate me” into consideration, sets me apart from teachers who become so convinced of their own rightness that they develop blind spots and become errant leaders because of it.I could blame this tendency to attract massive opposition on a great many things and make it about them, but the only variable in the situation, is me. So, I decided to look for what it is within me exactly that is being reflected in the form of this manifestation
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    She seems to identify with the "catalyst for positive ftw" image to the extreme. I guess she self-types infj counselor idealist in mbti and sells herself on youtube and on the web that way.

    I could see Sx in what she says in the paragraph above ...but that doesn't explain why she was sexually abused for years as a kid/teenager. Where was her Sx motherfucker spirit at that point? How did she "catalyze" that dude? She pulled up his what and healed. Hard to say. There was much "in-between" in her being the victim of a pedophile -- he neither hated her, nor loved her. Or kinda both. Stuck with so/sx for her.

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    Justin Trudeau - sx/sp 3w2 EP


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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    @silke @Aylen @Galen thoughts?
    Wow, that really affected me. Like I seriously felt it even though outwardly not a lot going on, (I have seen more outwardly expressive reunions) energetically they spoke volumes.

    In relationships, they seek closeness, loyalty, and meaningful sex. Mentally and emotionally, they wish to be able to fully open up to their partners, and they are most fulfilled when their partners do the same. Sex to them is far more than a physical act. In fact, those who simply see sex as a vessel for physical pleasure more than likely do not possess the Sexual Primary Instinct.

    They idealize about potential partners, always longing for the perfect union. When they find a soul mate, they quietly bond with an exceptional level of intimacy. Since they rarely engage in social formalities, the partner may be unaware of the level of intimacy that the Sexual-Secure has until much later. Once connected, they have difficulty letting go, even though they may still fantasize about more perfect relationships.

    They are keenly aware of the intimacy between themselves and their partners. They see intimacy, or closeness, as the measure of how healthy the relationship is. They will feel conflicted and frustrated in relationships in which they cannot fully bond, but they will become “one” with their partners in ones that are a good fit. The passion and loyalty they have for former partners does not fade. Instead, it is overshadowed by someone that they can feel can provide more closeness and trust. They enjoy marriage for the security that it provides. Dullness is their biggest fear, and personal rejection is their biggest insult.
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    I could buy Marina Abramovic as sx/sp, at the very least not sp-last. She's suuuuper beta ST though, probably some gut type. She has that stiff Russian vibe working for her.



    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I very much relate to the above when it comes to relationships. I wonder if sp/sx holds similar views on intimacy. The thought of being with someone that I couldn't connect with and form a deep emotional bond is extremely depressing to me. I could never marry for financial reasons or status.
    This is just the way that humans connect with one another, I wouldn't call it type-related.

    IME though even though they will always want some sort of interpersonal closeness with a chosen someone (or someones), sp/sxs will always subliminally retain some sort of buffer zone between them and other people. There's always a space to retreat to that only belongs to them and nobody else. It's really not a matter of 'would you marry for financial reasons" or something similar, but perhaps more "would this marriage provide me with the personal space I want?" Both the interpersonal closeness and psychological bubble spaces are priorities, but some implicit level of distance will always be expected at a very base level.

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    I remember
    I remember my old habits
    I remember getting too fucked up
    And I remember throwing up in your car
    I remember
    I remember showing up at your house
    And I remember hurting you so bad
    And I remember the way your sheets smelt

    [Chorus]
    I know what makes you cry
    I know when you mean it
    Who knows you better than
    I do!

    [Verse 2]
    I remember
    I remember that box of letters
    I remember that naked photo
    And I remember things getting better
    I remember
    I remember when I met your dad
    I remember all about your mom
    I remember what you do on Christmas

    [Chorus]
    I know what makes you cry
    I know when you mean it
    Who knows you better than
    I know everything that freaks you out
    That makes you mad
    That makes you melt




    This song is so freakin' intense and I love her voice. Incredible lyrics just song so honestly.. I can only take it to be about a past relationship, a recent break up.. and dear God do I relate to it.


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    ^sx/so

    I'm usually the one taking care of people who are "far too fucked up" just because as sp-second I can feel my limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    ^sx/so

    I'm usually the one taking care of people who are "far too fucked up" just because as sp-second I can feel my limit.
    I could see the song possibly being sx/so due to the force and the intensity she is trying to project but not because of one line about getting too fucked up. Anyone can have a drinking problem and choose to go past their limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I could see the song possibly being sx/so due to the force and the intensity she is trying to project but not because of one line about getting too fucked up. Anyone can have a drinking problem and choose to go past their limit.
    Sx/sp music would be less intense? Hm.. I'm just trying to figure out whether I'm sx/so or sx/sp. I definitely value social status, friendship groups, etc.. and I constantly tend to take it a little too far sometimes and disregard my own health/safety. But I don't know if I relate to all those "pioneer" .. "norm challenging" descriptions.. I think I come across more brooding in person and erratic.. I dunno maybe they should change sx/so descriptions because they make them all sound like revolutionaries lmao.. a little unrealistic.


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    This is Sx/Sp music.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Sx/sp music would be less intense? Hm.. I'm just trying to figure out whether I'm sx/so or sx/sp. I definitely value social status, friendship groups, etc.. and I constantly tend to take it a little too far sometimes and disregard my own health/safety. But I don't know if I relate to all those "pioneer" .. "norm challenging" descriptions.. I think I come across more brooding in person and erratic.. I dunno maybe they should change sx/so descriptions because they make them all sound like revolutionaries lmao.. a little unrealistic.
    I just feel it has a different kind of intensity and I agree that some descriptions could use some revising but sx/sp feels a bit less erratic to me than sx/so. Sx/so is not as "contained". It is more like a blast of intensity forcing it's way into the world but with sx/sp it feels more like it draws you in. Hard to explain but I kind of know it when I see it in others. It is easier for me to blur the line between sx/sp and sp/sx than the line between sx/so and sx/sp. Sx/so seems to make a more forceful impact on their sphere of influence. Sx/sp is more like a laser beam or black hole of intensity than a supernova.

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    Here two more classic examples.





    Conclusion: Basically, most songs which are purely, exclusively and primarily about love, are Sx/Sp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I just feel it has a different kind of intensity and I agree that some descriptions could use some revising but sx/sp feels a bit less erratic to me than sx/so. Sx/so is not as "contained". It is more like a blast of intensity forcing it's way into the world but with sx/sp it feels more like it draws you in. Hard to explain but I kind of know it when I see it in others. It is easier for me to blur the line between sx/sp and sp/sx than the line between sx/so and sx/sp. Sx/so seems to make a more forceful impact on their sphere of influence. Sx/sp is more like a laser beam or black hole of intensity than a supernova.
    Interesting, okay. How about this song? Hahaha. maybe it's ridiculous to think I could be sx/sp.. I will take my tushie to sx/so hahahaahha



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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarlettLux View Post
    Interesting, okay. How about this song? Hahaha. maybe it's ridiculous to think I could be sx/sp.. I will take my tushie to sx/so hahahaahha

    awww,

    I would go with so/sx for that.

    This one feels more sx/sp, to me.


    "To understand the mind and soul, and to find the perfect union."
    Appearance: brooding, intense, immersed, fantastical.
    Role: mystic, wanderer, soul mate, lover, seducer.

    This type is on an eternal search for the missing piece. They channel their sexual energy inwards to explore the imaginations that come from their subconscious. Their ambitions are personal in nature and do not necessarily have a social cause. They often have a naturally seductive, sexual charisma that manifests as a fantastical, erotic playfulness or an untouchable aura to others. They may feel torn between the urge to explore and a secure living.


    In relationships, they may feel conflicted about their intense passion for their partner and their desire to guard themselves from getting hurt. When they find a soul mate, they quietly bond with an exceptional level of intimacy. Once connected, they have difficulty letting go. When anxious or depressed, they may seclude themselves for extended periods, seeking understanding from within. Their sexual tension occasionally manifests as volatile, self-destructive behaviors when stressed.



    Like waves to the shore
    part of the ocean
    the stars high above
    part of the sky
    Now I drift to you
    I dream of a river
    a water so blue
    wish I could live there
    Wish you were here...
    Like the air that I breathe
    you'll always be there
    the wings that I need
    when I wanna fly
    Now I drift to you
    I dream of a river
    a water so blue
    wish I could live there
    Wish you were here...
    Like waves to the shore
    part of the ocean
    the stars high above
    part of the sky
    Now I drift to you
    i dream of a river
    a water so blue
    wish I could live there
    Wish you were here...

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    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Too many of these songs are tinged with a strong "im s0 edgy kekeke" vibe, which I don't get from sx/sp at all. There's usually a much more domestic vibe to sx/sps than this scream-ey pop-ey genre conveys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Too many of these songs are tinged with a strong "im s0 edgy kekeke" vibe, which I don't get from sx/sp at all. There's usually a much more domestic vibe to sx/sps than this scream-ey pop-ey genre conveys.
    Could there be quadra differences in how a stacking might show?
    Like, I can see how a Beta version might show more edge, with Delta version being more domestic.
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    Alex Grey - Progress of the Soul pt. 11

    “Ocean of Love Bliss” 2009, Acrylic on linen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SisOfNight View Post

    Alex Grey - Progress of the Soul pt. 11

    “Ocean of Love Bliss” 2009, Acrylic on linen.
    I love his work. I have a copy of Sacred Mirrors. It is beautiful.

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    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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