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    Default Sacha Baron Cohen





    Last edited by silke; 07-24-2020 at 06:38 PM. Reason: updated video links

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    Ne-ILE or EIE

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    LIE-Te 7w8 sp/sx

    His wife, Isla Fisher, is likely SLE sp/sx


    Last edited by silke; 07-24-2020 at 06:43 PM.

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    Remembers an ILE friend of mine

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    His humor seems to be on bit of the Se valuing side of the fence.

    He should put this into his end credits:
    Lots of genitals were harmed in the making of this film
    I say gamma extrovert: LIE.
    I doubt an ILE would make so graphic films in specific distorted reality. It would involve more random contextual mixing of different situations. The way he morphs into a specific character is also an indication of Fi valuing. Also the way he goes around meeting people supports that as well. There are plenty of alpha crazy comedies and his films do not work in the same way.
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    Lol looks LIE
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    SEE

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    he's a good example of a gamma that could ostensibly seem alpha (ILE). his humor is crass and completely in bad taste, but because he's gamma, i.e. existentially indifferent, he makes it work. when I think of more extreme forms of alpha comedy, I'm reminded of a show called Tim and Eric that my EIE friend introduced me to. they essentially take their half-baked, quasi-comedic sarcasm to the extreme, effectively mocking the fact that their antics are too absurd to be funny. the key is that there's always an Fe undertone of deliberation; with cohen this element is completely absent, he just spews whatever he deems semi-emotionally effective at the time. LIE-Te E7 sp-last.
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    I thought the general consensus was that he's LIE. Though I find him hard to type, but LIE seems most likely.

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    Why won't these people turn to the side for a neck shot? Don't they know that I'm being deprived of my neck fetish?
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Ok I sound like a weirdo ...for clarity the neck thing is a part of my VI system....please don't say "suuuure!!!"
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    LIE!

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    LIE

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    I'd put him down as a Tom Sawyerish IEE (maybe ILE). He's married to Isla Fisher, who is SEI or ESE.

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    His type was discussed many times before. Truly, you have to have poop in your eyes in order not to see that he is Fi-gifted. IEE.
    “I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking

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    LIE

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    Sacha Baron Cohen - ESFJ Hugo




    This is the comment you are looking for



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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    I'd put him down as a Tom Sawyerish IEE (maybe ILE). He's married to Isla Fisher, who is SEI or ESE.
    She is obviously harmonizing subtype (in contrast to Sasha's Creative). I had assumed she was gamma sf (maybe SEE) from a quick look at some videos. But it would be interesting to look closer at her to be sure of her type.
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    He plays ESE character Borat but I think he’s 4D Te and 4D Ne, LIE. His brand of humor is extremely anti-Si and full blown disgusting. His wife has too sharp of Se to be SEI (ignores Se). I think Isla is SEE or ESI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnatchYourWeave View Post
    He plays ESE character Borat but I think he’s 4D Te and 4D Ne, LIE. His brand of humor is extremely anti-Si and full blown disgusting. His wife has too sharp of Se to be SEI (ignores Se). I think Isla is SEE or ESI.
    I think Sacha Baron Cohen is LIE. He looks extremely LIE to me. It's weird that I can't stand to watch his films for more than a few minutes at a time. His humor is so cringe and crude I just can't watch it.

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    Either LIE or IEE. Both can be confused by the other when male. 4d Ne is obvious, and I think he's Fi valuing and very anti-Fe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I think Sacha Baron Cohen is LIE. He looks extremely LIE to me. It's weird that I can't stand to watch his films for more than a few minutes at a time. His humor is so cringe and crude I just can't watch it.
    Yeah I think he's LIE too.

    Movies like Bruno or Borat are funny to me but also not something I could watch more than once, it's too much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Yeah I think he's LIE too.

    Movies like Bruno or Borat are funny to me but also not something I could watch more than once, it's too much.
    I wonder what it is that an LIE can make movies like these yet other LIE's can't stand watching them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PissholeMan View Post
    I wonder what it is that an LIE can make movies like these yet other LIE's can't stand watching them.
    I didn't mind watching his movies, I thought thought they were funny. But not something I could watch over and over again.

    Not sure what it means.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    I didn't mind watching his movies, I thought thought they were funny. But not something I could watch over and over again.

    Not sure what it means.
    I think at times identicals can make us cringe. At first mostly, when we're not used to our own type in other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    I didn't mind watching his movies, I thought thought they were funny. But not something I could watch over and over again.

    Not sure what it means.
    I think what bothers me about his movies is his misrepresentation of himself to the people he meets in his films. That, and his insanely crude humor.

    Having said that, he's like the guy with muddy hands who turns over rocks so you can see what's under them. Some of the people in his films are so much worse, but they wear a nice mask so you can't so easily see the evil that they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PissholeMan View Post
    Either LIE or IEE. Both can be confused by the other when male. 4d Ne is obvious, and I think he's Fi valuing and very anti-Fe.
    Some enthusiasts enjoy demented comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    I'd put him down as a Tom Sawyerish IEE (maybe ILE). He's married to Isla Fisher, who is SEI or ESE.
    According to some websites, he's best friends with John Cena, and that dude is the quintessential LSE white knight. He also seemed to work pretty well with Ken Davitian (in Borat). I can't think of a better typing than SEI for Davitian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    He also seemed to work pretty well with Ken Davitian (in Borat). I can't think of a better typing than SEI for Davitian.
    I looked him up. He doesn't have the energy of an SEI in interviews and his whole image (the way he carries himself, his clothes) does not match up. Actually...he shifts from extrovert ethical to NT to me as I watch him speak. I'm not sure. LII, EIE, SEE I have in mind all of these. Interesting.
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    ENTp - Ne

    Don Quixote and Dumas vs. Jack and Dreiser

    Us: an unrivaled genius and a "grey cardinal".
    Them: a vulgar clod with a stick up one place and a desperate housewife.



    That youtuber Lindsey Ellis, a ESFj - INTj herself, made a 30 min long video essay about Borat is telling. Sacha is pushing the boundaries of Fe and what is appropriate to say in an external sense.




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    LIE-C
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Not single person even tries to justify their typings. Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
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    That youtuber Lindsey Ellis, a ESFj - INTj herself, made a 30 min long video essay about Borat is telling. Sacha is pushing the boundaries of Fe and what is appropriate to say in an external sense.

    IEEs can push those bounderies in a calculated manner I think. They say offensive things to people’s faces and when they are not around, it seems at times just to see how far they can go. IEE could work for him and SEI for Fisher (her edginess not Se necessarily but due to her being Fe subtype – they are more set on the things they want and how they want them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    Not single person even tries to justify their typings. Okay.
    LIE.

    Se mobilising would make sense for him as he likes to be constantly exposed to challenging, dangerous environments. Se role would cower away at some point, but he never does, that also leads to explaining his Si polr. He is constantly exploiting himself and shoving his own body into uncomfortable situations. Ask any actual ILE in this platform if they'd be capable or even interested in doing that for long periods of time as Sacha does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    IEEs can push those bounderies in a calculated manner I think. They say offensive things to people’s faces and when they are not around, it seems at times just to see how far they can go. IEE could work for him and SEI for Fisher (her edginess not Se necessarily but due to her being Fe subtype – they are more set on the things they want and how they want them).
    IEE or LIE could work for him more than ILE. He shits on Fe. Literally almost. An ILE has Fe mobilising.

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