Quote Originally Posted by Holon View Post
@Whoobie77

Offtopic, but:

I would more think that humans are a meta-organism with disease processes occurring than being an innately pathogenic meta-organism. One positive outcome of our existence as an entropy pump is that thinkers are given the liberty to reason on a cosmic scale.

I think metaorganisms will become sentient up until Process God has a developed sentience, if it has not already arrived at that point. Of course this is a mere potential argument, and one I have no beliefs about whether to prefer a causal hypothesis in which consciousness and life are merely coincidences.
For some reason, I read that as "Offsides, but". I don't even like football, but, 'tis the season, I suppose...

In any case, I wasn't saying that the human race is a septic infection which needs to be sterilized, just that it is straining the planet/ecosystem in a way that resembles how bacterial rot might swarm a lower organism. I doubt if E. coli had self awareness, it would think of itself as malicious. It's just trying to live, same as anything else. I'm not trying to pass a moral judgement, I'm just trying to sculpt the phrases which best help others understand what my mind is synthesizing from the inputs I'm receiving.

Also, I think superorganisms do exist already. Some of the banners they fly under is that of a nation or a corporation (in my mind)

Do you read Deleuze? Because it sounds like you do. Man, my philosophy professor told me about this interesting stuff about quantum mechanics and Apollo and Dionysus that he got out of Deleuze. I found a copy of Capitalism and Schizophrenia and after about 5 minutes I wanted to throw the book at the wall. Maybe I'm just not seeing something, I'll just read my Wittgenstein in the corner, man, thanks. (Apologies if you don't read Deleuze and I sound like a stark mad raving hobo.)

also, btw Holon, the longer I've know you the more difficult it has become to decipher what the hell you're saying. Is it because you type Ni now and you're trying to live up to that role? Or perhaps the post-structuralists have gotten to you? In any case, come back from that dark wood man, There's merit to be had in speaking like a human being and not a fucking space alien lol