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    Quote Originally Posted by inumbra View Post
    well, imo, most of K4M's "ESE"s (myself included) are not ESE. i also would not really consider dom for myself as a serious option.
    Its nice that you are willing to affirm suz's self-typing when you qualify your statement with "most of K4M's eses". Surely it would be something if there was a way to do the list that had all of your friends' and/or member self-typings come out accurate. But that's just not reality. The hard reality is people do mistype themselves and how much they know about socionics doesn't always make a difference and whether you are friends with them or not doesn't make a difference and you are much more like the ESEs excluded from the "most of K4M's ESEs that aren't ESEs" then you are like anybody else on the list, so I don't see any problem here.

    I strongly disagree that you aren't ESE...you are too submissive to rules and those in charge for any other type but ESE. your ethical/humanity compasses are much too strong and exaggerated for even some of the more humanistic Delta. Even maritsa, who calls herself a humanist, has been known to type people by their jaw lines and other such means that you ESEs would consider neanderthal. I've been looking at your type ever since you questioned me about my name Kill4me. You asked, "do you really want people to kill4you" as you often throw those kind of "are you serious" questions at people who do or say something that could spell potential troublemaker. you also display an airy stubbornness in debate that is characteristic of intellectual ESEs, as if you're unwilling or unable to process new information about a topic or yourself. You are intellectual, sure, but you have a more tender-mindedness about you, that's easily given to metaphor and imagery. Just the overall cognition lacks the ILI precision and tough-mindedness.

    You aren't even one of the people on the list that I would call one step away from not being ese (like wacey, xerx, and mu). I think you are one of the more obvious ESE here with chips and a couple more. the only other type you could be is LSE and that's not likely. you don't have the big extroverted energy like a Laurie's Crusader and you are too flexible in your cognition so as not to buy into the delta ST pillars. You are not IEE.... you don't really mirror people, not in the reflexive, immediate, phony way that IEEs appear too. ESE is the more introverted of the extroverts and makes a nice little fort for you to play inside of. You just have to give it a chance to settle in.

    And all of a sudden you know what type you are NOT, when you've been bouncing back and forth on your type for like the last year. let me suggest that the SEI descriptions are written with a strong bias towards 9w1 and the 9w1 in you can't let go of that. For instance, the SEI description at sociotype.com has a very extreme slant towards type nine and I'm sure that could lead many an extroverted 9 astray. Right now, you are typing SEI and ILI. SEI and ILI are nothing alike in my book. I think that speaks to the poor self-awareness that ESEs typically have when it comes to typing themselves. All in all, this type hopping you do looks to me like you don't have a solid handle on your type....not enough to make a genuine claim that you and the other eses on my list aren't ese. And you have been here how long now.

    You do have the SF part, down, so that's a start, but no telling how long it will be there for as you have changed your self-typing frequently. You won't be the first ESE imo to start off with SEI. Others that have wound up at ESE started at SEI. It tends to be the typical route ESE 9w1s have to take before landing on their type. Once you accept that you're alpha SF, ese is rather simple. ESE is the most delta-ish of the Alphas. You are one of the people here that has no chance of ever being banned from the chatbox or the board. Not only does that exclude you from my ILI grouping, but that also excludes you from the other types in Alpha. You are too nice guyish for ILI. ESE is the only type in Alpha that can accomplish such a feat. Wacey gets a little fiery sometimes, but like i said, Wacey isn't an obvious ESE.

    I suggest you don't look at "Ti Dom argument" type arguments. That's the map, not the territory. Such arguments don't have any weight typologically. If you traverse long enough through the intellectual labyrinth of socionics, you can find reasons to argue that you aren't Ti dom or that you are. OJ Simpson's lawyers used the labyrinth of the law to convince a jury that their client wasn't guilty beyond a reasonable doubt....people can do the same when it comes to their type and socionics. Take what you read in the descriptions with a grain of salt. The best way to come at socionics, for you and anybody else, is to build your own profiles of the types using real life examples. My list provides that, better than any other list you will come across. It's a total success.

    Anyways, carry on with your type journey, I'm just giving you some cool little type-yourself shortcuts in case you want to cut the time in half that it takes you to reach the finish line.
    Last edited by Kill4Me; 01-17-2016 at 12:59 AM.

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