@Jeremy8419 I'm curious what take your 143 IQ mind has about my type so far, and if it falls in line with my Alpha NT self-type. Reasons are appreciated.
@Jeremy8419 I'm curious what take your 143 IQ mind has about my type so far, and if it falls in line with my Alpha NT self-type. Reasons are appreciated.
Don't really know what my views on you are, as I haven't developed an internal impression of your personality to fit into a system.Originally Posted by Muddytextures
Have you given an overall life situation to each of the four Quadra?
Fair enough, better you wait until you are confident then give a half-baked answer. As I've stated before I relate the most to alpha, I very much prefer lighthearted environments where people aren't breathing down each others neck even if it means less opportunity for acquiring things. I don't feel the slightest bit of guilt for being lazy or unproductive at home and hate it when people pressure me to do chores when I'm in my private zone. I've never initiated major fights with family members and my life situation is pretty stable, to the point of boredom unfortunately.
Alpha as I said is what I feel the most at home with.
Betas can be inspirational to me at times but other times seem too rough and shortsighted.
Gamma seems a bit narcissistic but I can still respect their desire to get somewhere in this shitty world as long I'm not a part of whatever they have in mind.
Deltas seem to make for easy acquaintances but they get irritating to me after a while with their moral preaching and mundane way of life.
Try equating the Quadra to life situations (your choosing), and see how it affects your thinking towards Socionics.
E.g.:
Alpha - individuals voicing themselves to individuals
Beta - formation and securing of family
Gamma - families/groups in relations to other such
Delta - families/groups being assisted by individuals
Alternatively:
Alpha - Friends and dating
Beta - Family
Gamma - Inter-family
Delta - Grandparenthood
Just food for thought on alternative ways of looking at the Quadra. You can then, with your own comparative analysis of life situations, then place individuals as which of 4 types you see them as in their present life situation (Quadra) and which you think they will be like when they progress into the next. You can also take that life situation, and then sub-divide it into the four Quadra, etc.
It's off-topic to what you were asking, but it gives an alternate view of things lol.
Off the top of my head:
Alpha: Getting together with family for movies, taking trips, exploring the wilderness
Beta: Going to the gym, acting loose with friends
Gamma: Finding a good job, going to school
Delta: Caring for old relatives, fixing up the car/house
Hmmm... That's more like the regular Quadra for immediate situations. How about on an expanded time level though?
Try taking a cycle of something, like: Meeting to being in a relationship, birth to death, adulthood to baby being born, etc., and divide it up into stages and label them Quadra (Quadra succession).
Sort of along the same lines of this, but applied to cycles and sub-cycles of life.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-Benefit-Rings
Lets look at the cycle of College:
So, this is an example of the stages of the Socion through the life situation of "college", which those in the process of college will fall into one of the TIM's as far as college is concerned. But what of the life situation of "formal education?" Although one could be in the alpha, beta, or gamma stages of college, they would simultaneously be in the delta stage of the life situation of formal education, which they have spent 12+ years on thus far. What of the life situation of adulthood to gaining one's own family? Of their career? Of their passionate pursuits? Of their life? Of their lineage? Of their nation? Of their own 5 minute idea they humor?
The point is not to say "I am most certainly XYZ," but rather to take a step back and see that we are all each of the types, when considering the various life situations of multiple overarching layers, and when dealing with others, say "you know, the life situation I am focused on may be different than yours, but in a different context... I've been there, and I understand. I may not be able to give the specific information and advice you need, but I can tell you my similar story, and, hopefully, that piece of my heart makes a difference."
When people say what type they are, when they at least have their own viewpoints for the 16 types, what they are really saying is not that they are "always xyz," as we are all always all of the types. What they are rather saying, is that their worldview is the manifestation of their own internal self forever within that TIM's purpose in time throughout all the cycles of their lives. I happened to be born with quick intellect and high energy. And my moment in time happens to be the EII. I still have the letter my preschool teacher sent home with me saying after I finished my art project that I went and helped show others how to do theirs. And it repeats throughout my life. Over and over, I am here not to be here, but to help others be here. Is your moment that is "you" when everything else ends and the next idea begins? Are you an ILE? Only you can know that, but it's a good one too. After all... If a classmate hadn't spoken up and picked that art project from nothing, then I never would have found that moment in time, nor would anyone else have found theirs.
Mmmm ok I see what your getting at. I'll do one for the lifecycle of a typical person:
Alpha: Infancy-Childhood
ILE: Curiosity in the outside world, mass absorption of experiences
ESE: Playfulness and delight in game playing
SEI: Development of harmonious and long lasting friendships
LII: Receiving basic education and acquiring an understanding of how the world works
Beta: Teenage-Young Adulthood
EIE: Formation of one's inner social circle and cultural identity
SLE: Resisting the control of parents/guardians and becoming self-sufficient
LSI: Developing discipline and following an orderly lifestyle
IEI: Letting loose in search of a romantic and meaningful life
Gamma: Adulthood
SEE: Creation and expansion of social contacts in order to open more doors
LIE: Risky investment in a career or social organization
ILI: Managing decisions made and coming back down to earth
ESI: Developing a code of ethics to enable a more stable life
Delta: Middle age and beyond
LSE: Dutifully working to build a solid foundation for the rest of life
IEE: Acting chaotically and impulsively to remedy boredom
EII: Passing on belongings to family/charity and achieving peace through good-will
SLI: Returning to one's roots and learning to take pleasure in the simple things once more
Hahaha. Read IEE between "mindlessly working hard" and "work is for other people" and thought, ohhhhh so that's a mid-life crisis LOL.
That's good. Now do a few more mentally to yourself. Maybe picking whichever stage you are in from your total lifecycle and subdividing just that stage into the 16 stages? Once you get a few of them mentally, try and look at each of your TIM's by those stages from the socionics TIM models and descriptions perspectives, and from that context try and see how you really are just like those TIM's within their respective contexts. E.g., if you're in SEE in your total lifecycle, try and see how in the context of your total lifecycle, you really do match everything SEE. And then the rest of your respective TIM's for the cycles you pick and outline. Try and do the same for some of the people you're close to as well.
This is an interesting viewpoint. In my life I have dealt with a lot of loss. I have been 'put" in the dying path of others over and over. Even witnessing life and death situations where I had to make quick choices. I was put in charge of taking care of my dying grandfather when I was a teen and it has followed me ever since. I have always felt I am here to help people leave here not be here. I guess to talk about my ideas of what awaits after this life which I have been doing since childhood. I have drawn 100s over the years, when I was more active in metaphysical groups, who actually listened and didn't automatically dismiss me as a lunachick.
I do it with a tinge of reluctance and more than once questioned, "why me?". The dying people I have spent last days with seemed comforted by what I said even if I didn't consciously think about what to tell them. It is different for each person. I don't mention god unless they are religious. I used to have an aversion to saying god but this probably got me over it. It is like the right words come and they work even if they are not part of my conscious belief systems.
Over the years it feels more like a burden and I know that is just my attitude because of how many people I was close to that died. It would probably be easier with random strangers. People suggest I volunteer for hospice but it is not what I want to do. I do not want to seek death but if it shows up I will have a talk with it. I am due for a long break though. No one wants to be seen as an angel of death. hahah I have never done anything to cause a death just to be clear. I know someone reading might go off imagining the unimaginable about me cause they are just wired that way.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Murderer!This is an interesting viewpoint. In my life I have dealt with a lot of loss. I have been 'put" in the dying path of others over and over. Even witnessing life and death situations where I had to make quick choices. I was put in charge of taking care of my dying grandfather when I was a teen and it has followed me ever since. I have always felt I am here to help people leave here not be here. I guess to talk about my ideas of what awaits after this life which I have been doing since childhood. I have drawn 100s over the years, when I was more active in metaphysical groups, who actually listened and didn't automatically dismiss me as a lunachick.
I do it with a tinge of reluctance and more than once questioned, "why me?". The dying people I have spent last days with seemed comforted by what I said even if I didn't consciously think about what to tell them. It is different for each person. I don't mention god unless they are religious. I used to have an aversion to saying god but this probably got me over it. It is like the right words come and they work even if they are not part of my conscious belief systems.
Over the years it feels more like a burden and I know that is just my attitude because of how many people I was close to that died. It would probably be easier with random strangers. People suggest I volunteer for hospice but it is not what I want to do. I do not want to seek death but if it shows up I will have a talk with it. I am due for a long break though. No one wants to be seen as an angel of death. hahah I have never done anything to cause a death just to be clear. I know someone reading might go off imagining the unimaginable about me cause they are just wired that way.
What you describe would be the moment through which you perceive the world and your relation to it. All people go through those moments, but "your world" happens to be through such moments.
There's no copyright or fee on those exercises. Take time to do them yourself in your own way. Given that you can cut and splice life into a limitless number of life situation progressions, one or more of them will place you into a less grim TIM period. After you adjust your views to see how such a TIM is most certainly true in that context, it will give balance to you in some regards.
Murderer!
What you describe would be the moment through which you perceive the world and your relation to it. All people go through those moments, but "your world" happens to be through such moments.
There's no copyright or fee on those exercises. Take time to do them yourself in your own way. Given that you can cut and splice life into a limitless number of life situation progressions, one or more of them will place you into a less grim TIM period. After you adjust your views to see how such a TIM is most certainly true in that context, it will give balance to you in some regards.
Last edited by Aylen; 03-04-2016 at 12:38 AM.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Oh, I didn't mean "in the moment" as in "in this moment," but rather in the sense of the time period of each cycle that is IEI. For instance, in my college example, IEI is the time period after you have all your courses set, planned, stuff together ready for school, and then on the first day, you take the plunge and everything previous just washes away; the bifurication of Beta's previous structure into emotions of the unknown possibilities into the future; IEI. And in Muddytextures, the point where one leaves the systems of their youth to go out and "find themselves." Or in your original one, the point in where you display emotions into someone else's journey into the great unknown. These are the moments of IEI. Although all the other parts of the clock of the socion happen with you in various overarching and overlapping time periods, the ones which define you as "you" in your own eyes are the IEI ones.
Look at mine and muddytextures, where do you currently fit in with such, and ask yourself how, in that context, you really do display all signs of such.
Also, what you write about helping is in the EII section of the article I linked on this page. It's got a humorous part too lol
@Birdie SEI or ESE
-
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
55th st Washington
Stop that. Don't just randomly enforce your opinions on people.
Sol, don't forget...
Extrovert = 1
Introvert = -1
Real Life = 1
Internet = -1
Extrovert in real life = 1*1 = Extrovert behavior
Extrovert online = 1*-1 = Introvert behavior
Introvert in real life = -1*1 = Introvert behavior
Introvert online = -1*-1 = Extrovert behavior
Yeah, like I don't see how this could be.
It's gotta be XxxXXxxTrolololoXxXXXXxxX!
Lol.
Hey @Sol!
I remember you once said I reminded you of an xLE. How did you reach that conclussion? Based on Jung terms or MBTI terms or Socionic terms?
(also why would be nice)
...come on, don't fail me now!
subteigh, thanks for typing me the worst type of all time
Was it an ST? Lol
SEI: Inumbra, Pink (?), bulletsanddoves, Olly, BG,
ILE: Hitta, Jeremy8419, Reficulris, Holon, MuddyTextures, Mu4, Suz, End, Transkar, Aquagraph, Gilly
ESE: William
LII: Ouronis, Noki, esq, Chips and Underwear, Esaman, Aestrivex
IEI: Starfall, crazedrat, Strrrng, Glam, Silke (?), Pookie, Aylen
SLE: Ananke, Kill4me, Satan, Jessica (?)
EIE: McBain, Persephone, Summerprincess (?), Mega (?), Golden, Guavadrunk, Aivonaima (?), Darya, ScarlettLux, Jet City Woman
LSI: Allie, InvisibleJim, Jimbean, LSI Pole Ninja, Miss Baby Doll, Amber, Squark
ILI: Scapegrace, Jarno, Capitalist Pig, Contra (?)
SEE: Dolphin, Woof, Aixelsyd,
LIE: Narc, Adam Strange (?), Totalize
ESI: Lungs, Blackburry, Kalinoche
SLI: Park, Words
IEE: Galen, Kim, The Whole English (?), Workaholics Anon, Eliza Thomason (?), Sapphire
LSE: Daft Punk, leckysupport, Joy, Director Abbie
EII: Wacey, Uniden, Kimu, Maritsa, Person, Agarina, Radio, Minde, Subteigh (?)
Last edited by suedehead; 03-17-2016 at 10:39 AM.
Well, now I'm curious what the alternative is.
I get the vague impression that you could be my dual (hence LIE), although ILI fits better archetypally.
Clarifying some of my reservations:
Pink: SEI>IEE
Silke: IEI>EIE (it's a bit of a long shot, but I think she's saliently Ni-ego + Fe-valuing, and rational temperament as well as an object>subject focus would make sense based on the general vibe of her posts. Vaguely reminds me of Golden and Guavadrunk diction-wise)
Jessica: SLE>SLI
SummerPrincess: EIE>IEI
Mega: EIE>LIE
Aivonaima: EIE>IEI
Contra: ILI>Ni-LIE
TheWholeEnglish: IEE>some other Ethical type, not Gamma SF
Adam Strange: LIE>Te-LSE
Eliza Thomason: IEE>ESE
Subteigh: EII>LII
Last edited by suedehead; 03-15-2016 at 04:40 PM.
...and I'm where?
Why do I always have to be the special one? Oh great, call me Jose
Because you smell and are portugese, Jose.
Why do I notice these things...?
You misspeled Portuguese. fml smh
Besides the point, it's not especially hard to smell when you are in a warm climate
@Anglas LIE final
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Neato
As in a warm climate smells everything around, so to recognize the smell of a concrete object should be harder.Besides the point, it's not especially hard to smell when you are in a warm climate
Shto
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=neato
Well, the smells during the 35C are surprisingly hard to differentiate, so you must be true. Unless you pass by a dumpster
Also @Maritsa, did you really what him? lol
YesWell, the smells during the 35C are surprisingly hard to differentiate, so you must be true. Unless you pass by a dumpster
Also @Maritsa, did you really what him? lol
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
@Maritsa -- do you type the word "final" after certain typings as a reminder to yourself, so you don't come back and reconsider later when you may have forgotten why you typed the person that way? I ask bc that's the kind of thing I would do (the senseless reconsideration, not necessarily the "final" labeling
Last edited by SongOfSapphire; 03-21-2016 at 12:01 AM. Reason: change erroneous ! to ?
"In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is." - Yogi Berra
I'm not good at organizing so I came up with a system and that didn't work so I decided to stick to final as a means of giving closure to something so I don't go back to it mindlessly and in disorganized confusion. If someone can find a method that works I'd appreciate input@Maritsa -- do you type the word "final" after certain typings as a reminder to yourself, so you don't come back and reconsider later when you may have forgotten why you typed the person that way! I ask bc that's the kind of thing I would do (the senseless reconsideration, not necessarily the "final" labeling
IEE and EII have a lot of similarities except IEE are more willful and direct with others and their wants.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Anglas mb ENFP
@QuickTwist ISTj LSi final
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
SEI: BG, lemontrees
ILE: xerx, mu4, Hitta, Reficulris, Holon, Aleksei
ESE: Suz (IEE?)
LII: Ouronis, Noki, esq, Chips and Underwear, MuddyTextures
IEI: Starfall, Strrrng, Glam, Summerprincess, SisofNight, Persephone, Elina, Aylen, bulletsanddoves, Olly, Pink, Pookie (EII?)
SLE: Ananke, Kill4me, Merky
EIE: McBain, Golden, Gilly, Jadae, ScarlettLux (SEE?)
LSI: InvisibleJim, LSI Pole Ninja, Miss Baby Doll, Myst, DJ Arendee
ILI: Inumbra, Scapegrace, Jarno, Capitalist Pig, Contra, limping bird (IEI?)
SEE: Dolphin, Woof, Aixelsyd
LIE: Narc, Mega, Anglas, Adam Strange, Totalize, FDG (SEE?)
ESI: Lungs, Blackburry, Kalinoche, Amber, Jet City Woman (LSI?), Allie, Suedehead
SLI: Park, Words, Jessica
IEE: Galen, Kim, Gem, Workaholics Anon, Eliza Thomason (?), Sapphire, applejacks
LSE: William, Director Abbie
EII: Wacey, Uniden, Maritsa, Person, Agarina, Radio, Minde, April, Subteigh, Birdie (?)
Posting Permissions
