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    Aisa it's very hard for me to type people based on this information. People with different stackings can do exactly the same things but with different motivations, so it's hard to tell. I also agree you kinda have to know them in person and feel their energy or some shit Pics would be of great help, but I agree it's not ok to post pics of people without their permission.

    I will read this descriptions more precisely though and see what I can come up with .

    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    "likes acquiring new high quality material goods (mostly due to personal interests but also partly linked with status)"
    That statement alone (I didn't even look back at my typing of the person or the rest of the statements) is sp/so
    I disagree completely I wouldn't be so quick, variant stackings can be very tricky. This statement alone doesn't mean that this is this persons primary motivation in life. But if we go by that statement alone I would say so/sp and not the other way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    Yes!! That's why I didn't have sx in this person's type either. Sexual instinct, despite the name, is actually the least likely to fuck around. They look for that special connection and not just flesh. Just flesh is SP domain.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    And while Sx is fixated on closeness, they're not actually as sexual as some of the other types (except for "with that one person") because they're too idealistic about relationships to fuck around.
    Don't agree either, it depends completely on individual."Special connection" can mean very different things to different people.

    Sx is certainly not about fucking around though. And sex drive is not really an indicator (at least that's the consensus, but I dont really agree with it completely - I think there are some major correlations) In my experience people who are sx last for example, especially sp/so, give off kind of an asexual vibe.

    Sx first when unhealthy can certainly show as promiscuity (or ironically, as abstinence - both as an unhealthy way to deal with your neurosis).

    I don't agree that sx first people are necessarily looking for a romantic connection or that they're extremely idealistic - it depends on an individual . Sx is more about the intense one on one connection (with people, things, ideas, hobbies), not necesarily romantic idealism (that's more E4 stuff).

    Sx last can also manifest in weird ways and with some strange relations to sexuality. Sx middle probably in general has least fucked up relationship with sex, because the second instinct is the one that causes you the least neurosis.

    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    for additional questions what would you say is the biggest motivation behind the everyday actions of each of these people and how does this motivation align with the instincts? i find it to be very telling to figure out what is the primary need that they are trying to support, which is the 1st instinct, while how they go about it would be the secondary one.typically people "juggle around" their secondary instinct to support of their first one, and this quote illustrates that kind of secondary flexibility in the sphere of sp. the first instinct is kind of rigid in nature in comparison to the second one, like a deep seated constant need that needs to be supported.[
    THIS. The last instinct is your blind spot, the one you are clueless and inept at, but don't care about it that much. The first is your neurosis, which "drives your life" and you would sacrifise other things for it (especially the last instinct). The first instinct is behind your motivations, but the second instinct is the "road" you take to get or satisfy the first one. Cause if you don't get your first met, you get higly neurotic and anxious. (well at least how high it is compared to others). Basically, what silke said

    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    I would actually say that Sx would like morbidity more than the other types. They're the ones that look for connection with people and are sometimes hopeless romantics which also means facing disappointment. Broken-heart love songs are Sx types domain.. if that's the kind of morbidity you mean.
    Morbidity is more E4, E5 territorry, but yeah, probably not with sx last. Instinctual variants manifest very differently in different Enneagram types. E5 sx/sp will be very different in terms of intensity and withdrawness than E7 sx/sp.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    I'd say Soc/Sx is the stacking that's mostly likely to be the "charmer" and to like to be "the playa" and all as far as sex. Their attention is scattered and not focused on one person - that's the Soc, but they are good at making people feel an intimate atmosphere when one on one - that's the Sx.
    Yes, I think "players" are usually so/sx, or the life of the party people that everybody knows (but with assertive type enneagram combined - E3, E7, E8). Because they spread their charm thin between as many people as possible. They're usually very easy to talk to and charming, but not really that intense, more like flighty and a bit superficial.

    sx/so is the most intense imo and usually most crazy - flamboyant or even self distructive if you will (again, withdrawn E types are more contained when it comes to this intensity, it's not so outwardlly apparent at first sight. Sx/so is like scanning the environment for the person/interest that peaks your attention and then only paying attention to that person - it's like laser, not really spreading it thin, superficial charm.

    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    How do we make a difference between sx/sp and sp/sx?
    These two are in my experience the hardest to tell apart, I can't really tell in a lot of cases. 4w5 are usually one or the other, but they're often very close. You have to find out by yourself which is your primary neurosis. I didn't really have that problem (once I properly understood what the stackings are all about), because mine are in very different ratios.

    Different people can have really expressed one variant, and the second much lower, or the first two are almost the same. Or they can be all almost equal.that really affects how easy it is to figure a person and their instinctual variants out.

    @The Martrix i don't think you're sx first.
    Last edited by darya; 06-29-2014 at 02:52 AM.

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