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    why is being high on marijuana considered evidence of IEI


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    Quote Originally Posted by epheme View Post
    This is pretty accurate actually.....

    Also there is this post where I talk about the difference between my IEI 4 cousin and me.

    Meh, been trying to think of something to say and feel uninspired....
    I forgot I already made a thread about this before! Your post there is good and illuminating. Don't worry about being uninspired. I don't have a pressing need for information, I just want to check other people's general impressions against my own to see how things line up. I think they line up pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    compare/contrast with other types of IEIs, give examples, say they don't exist, just talk about them.
    just curious what people have to say.
    IEI 9s - Bethany comes to mind - are some of my favorite, as their Fe is a bit more subdued


    The 9s tend to be very passive and non-feather ruffling, but if 9w1 (i imagine most are), they have an anchoring that feels more like stronger Fi to me. The 9s also seem a little less insistent on needing overt Se+Fe reassurance, than say, the 6s

    6 IEIs feel a little more constantly needing Se+Fe to calm them or to interpret 'safety'. They tend to look, even if sp first, for a lot more outside acceptance or the waves of the crowd and fitting in. I find it more challenging to talk to them at times, especially if they are trying to discern how I feel about them through constantly giving me Fe/Se checks - it feels annoying and tiresome, especially when they start questioning a tone or "what you really mean". At their best, iei 6s and eie 6s can be very aware of other people's social needs and even champion them very well, I notice. But I find it harder to get back on track with them sometimes, if there is a sense of "things not going well".

    4 IEIs..... very hit or miss. If the are positively idealizing me it tends to go well, but I think I trust them the least - because unless they know me or know socionics, they tend to keep expecting me to be SLE when I'm not - I'm good at those things but I don't value them, and there is always this impending sense of doom or things not lasting. They can have wonderful minds and really explore some things about the depths of human condition, but when they are very unhealthy I feel like I'm unable to help them, because I tend to not overly respect the notion of 'specializes' or the angst of someone's personal story or individuality in the same way they do. I probably enjoy 4w5 commentary more than 4w3 - the wannabe movie star types seem or feel probably furthest from my own concerns and life aim, but they generally feel good natured enough when healthy at least.


    I find with IEIs in general the more I present myself and my problems with them at first the better it goes, esp if we can establish a sense of benevolently teasing and being very different from each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    I don't know too much about this mythical beast.

    The IEI's I've known have never really been ones to run from conflict. I wonder if the 9 variation also has the tendency to paint themselves as victims.
    I find this more so with 6 - self pres tbh.

    I wonder if 9 sp do, too, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    The IEI's I've known have never really been ones to run from conflict. I wonder if the 9 variation also has the tendency to paint themselves as victims.
    I don't think I do either.... Run from conflict or paint myself as a victim, I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epheme View Post
    I don't think I do either.... Run from conflict or paint myself as a victim, I mean.
    Perhaps you are a healthy individual, then. : O


    FWIW I don't think it's fair to overall typecast by negative traits, but how an unhealthy version of a type 'is unhealthy' can be perhaps informative.
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    It's interesting that seeming more Fi or more similar to delta NFs has been brought up by a couple different people because I've thought the IEI 9 I know seems delta NF in ways even though the cognition is definitely Ni-Fe. I feel like there's some ambivalence between the desire for internal harmony and conflict avoidance & overt Se seeking. I dunno

    I guess I can merge the 2 threads I made cuz I'm an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDP View Post
    Perhaps you are a healthy individual, then. : O


    FWIW I don't think it's fair to overall typecast by negative traits, but how an unhealthy version of a type 'is unhealthy' can be perhaps informative.
    Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not running headfirst into conflicts. They make me uncomfortable but I've learned it's better to deal with them. Diplomatically preferably, lol, but that's not always the case.

    The victim thing I don't relate to at all. I feel like that is more of an E4 thing. And I agree with the bolded part

    @lungs When I first got into socionics I was confused by the fact that the IEs I seemed most comfortable with were Ni & Fi - I thought maybe I was some hybrid type. I remember testing IEI on some test and underneath my result it said "EII 99% as likely"

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    @epheme perhaps you're too cool to be beta hmm
    Posts I wrote in the past contain less nuance.
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    ~an extraverted consciousness is unable to believe in invisible forces.
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