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    This thread is already doomed because i wrote a really awesome post but it deleted and i lost all the stuff that i wrote. What subtype are these ISTp's? They seem to care about social faux pas being broken. For example a girl who the ISTp invited, tried to change the venue of my party and he had a word to her. He does this kind of thing often and i get on with him great. Knowing duality i am not really his dual because things aren't that easy.

    I am so very drunk my legs feel like they are on fire and swimming at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    This thread is already doomed because i wrote a really awesome post but it deleted and i lost all the stuff that i wrote. What subtype are these ISTp's? They seem to care about social pho-pas being broken. For example a girl who the ISTp invited, tried to change the venue of my party and he had a word to her. He does this kind of thing often and i get on with him great. Knowing duality i am not really his dual because things aren't that easy.

    I am so very drunk my legs feel like they are on fire and swimming at the same time.
    Faux pas. Sorry, I compulsively felt I had to fix it.

    Have you known this ISTp for a long time?
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    The "socialness" of an SiTe, or any type for that matter, is situational really, most likely has to do with the environmental influences they've had throughout their life. I know one SiTe who's pretty much a shut in unless he's at work. And when you get him out to a social situation, he's just a lump for the most part. Then the most recent SiTe I've encountered is sociable when out and about, he'll tell stories, strike conversations, tag along on adventures or to bars. I think he used to go to bars and clubs whenever. It doesn't really have to do with subtype, or at least, not the DarkAngelFireWolf69 (or whomever) subtypes.

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    Yeah i have known him for quite some time. I just seem to be really compatible with this guy. I can think of a lot of other examples where he does this but my head cannot remember them right now lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    The "socialness" of an SiTe, or any type for that matter, is situational really, most likely has to do with the environmental influences they've had throughout their life. I know one SiTe who's pretty much a shut in unless he's at work. And when you get him out to a social situation, he's just a lump for the most part. Then the most recent SiTe I've encountered is sociable when out and about, he'll tell stories, strike conversations, tag along on adventures or to bars. I think he used to go to bars and clubs whenever. It doesn't really have to do with subtype, or at least, not the DarkAngelFireWolf69 (or whomever) subtypes.
    I could make an argument that this is all subtypes are. The product of the social influence on a person. For example my parents are Ne polr Se types and its possible this is why i became the Fi subtype. I avoided the polrs and was not reinforced for them and adopted more Se. Still, i think its equally plausible that the structures of the brain determine the subtypes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    I could make an argument that this is all subtypes are. The product of the social influence on a person. For example my parents are Ne polr Se types and its possible this is why i became the Fi subtype. I avoided the polrs and was not reinforced for them and adopted more Se. Still, i think its equally plausible that the structures of the brain determine the subtypes.
    We were just talking about this in another thread, and I think you're right. It might not be as obvious as from a certain source or two, but also your reaction to these sources to it's not so 1+1=2. I don't think that DarkAngelFireWolf69's subtypes are correct, and that we either have no subtypes or a lot more subtypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by look.to.the.sky View Post
    I don't think that DarkAngelFireWolf69's subtypes are correct, and that we either have no subtypes or a lot more subtypes.
    Im actually not a big fan of the subtype idea i never was. Im suprised i even mentioned it but i was very drunk . Still, it is amazing the huge differences that seem to exist between people of the same type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meatburger View Post
    Still, it is amazing the huge differences that seem to exist between people of the same type.
    This is because we're people, right? We all came into this knowing that there aren't 16 types of people. We're all different and somehow get divided into 16 groups by Socionics. The two ways of thinking I see after that are: 1. There are further correlations of the people within these 16 groups, therefore they can be grouped within their groups. 2. "Environmental Influences" (the Nurture in Nature vs Nurture) make those within the 16 groups different from one another, which keeps them human and not 16 robot personalities.

    If the first way is true, I don't think these subtypes (NeFi-Ne; NeFi-Fi) are the right correlation. There has to be a lot more subtypes to account for all of the types of influences that can happen to you. I would say at least enough subtypes per function perhaps. I haven't thought it through too much yet. If the second statement is true, we should just be satisfied with the 16 types (it's the name of the forum anyway ) and learn about the different ways the base type can manifest for those people who don't give away their type very easily.

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