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    I'm far more comfortable with driving when there is no one else on the road. Its when I in drive in town or someplace busy that I get nervous. I even wait for evening hours to go eat out so I have to deal with less people on the road. I'm actually more afraid of getting in accident with someone else and having to confront an asshole then I am about the physical harm of getting in an accident.

    I do believe sensors are better drivers, because spacing-out while driving isn't exactly as helpful as taking notice of your surroundings. However, there might be a self-fulfilling prophecy amplifying the difference since ESxx are generally more confident driving more often and thus gain more experience then INxx types. I don't think the value of the sensing functions matter, only the strength does.

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    It ain't so much well a person drives that indicates strong or weak Se. Weaker Se types get more pumped up and stimulated the first few times they drive really fast....to what would be under-stimulating for a stronger Se type and the stronger Se type remains more nonchalant and relaxed. Can they still carry a conversation on casually at higher speeds? Shit like that tells apart the two. Weaker Se types are also much quicker to throw their seat belts on and look squirmy....it's pretty funny to see. You don't have to drive as fast before they start to grip on for dear life. Stronger Se types improvise better when being pursued by cops. Once I was being pursued and saw a side street. never even knew it was there. I only had a flicker of information that there would be a driveway waiting for me perfect. It was like automatic that I turned the car down the street and lo and behold there was that driveway. Pulled into it and shut everything down. The cop sped right by me. hehe. In a street race, a rule of thumb is that a v4 in the hands of a SLE drives like a v8 in the hands of an INFj. One afternoon, I raced home a v6 in a v4....it was mainly on the highway with a designated end point into the city. naturally he had the advantage given all things equal but it wasn't equal when you take reckless driving into account....I turned a typically hour ride into much much less and didn't get any tickets....you couldn't push that V4 any further.

    The same applies to any activity....if I were to rob a bank I'd only bring in people with strong Se to do on the ground stuff. in high school I used to have this scam I would do all the time on the big franchise clothing stores to make some quick money. It worked better with more than one person so I brought along a childhood friend but also to cut him in on my little score. I always put out the disclaimer that hanging around with me can get you in trouble. He was weak in Se. All I had him do was go into the dressing room and remove the ink censor. I had come up with a way for removing it using nothing more than a butter knife. Heh, see what happened was I bought something once and they forgot to remove the ink censor. where there's a will there's a way. I even supplied the butter knife. He had to have been in there for ten minutes, then comes out of the dressing room with this look on his face. I went in there pissed off and saw that he had completely fumbled it up. He looked like he'd been in there with a ghost. "I can't do it! I can't do it!" he cried. I told him to get out. I had it done in a minute. heh

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    I LOVE driving! But the exam was...horrible. Those shitheads calling themselves driving testers(I guess-not your instructor, but the one that drives around and makes big money) however...horrible. They always pick the worst route possible. And if you find a safer way or more economic way or whatever, who cares. Their will be done. I hate that line of thinking. I HATE HATE HATE that line of thinking. Instead of "Get me from A to Z" it's "now turn here, now turn there, ...(you have to figure it out by signs when he's silent), now park, well gosh darn!". It took me 5 tries and a total of THREE THOUSAND EURO! Fking shit!

    But I LOVE it now. I always drive by the rules, let others overtake me(it's city, what's the rush ?) and overall act like I'm driving a 10T Panztiger, not a 1,5T car. I am very careful and very observant. Even when I don't start quite right(so then car like hiccups), I am dissatisfied. Not that it happens a lot, but hey! It must happen even to Lewis Hamilton! Everyone says that my driving is quite boring, but also 110% comfortable. I don't know about the order of my IEs, but I know that S IEs are strong. It's far more likely that Se is a creative than it's for Si to be a programme, but wth. I am open to possibilities.

    But do I love to switch into 5th? ...I'm an S! What do you think? That's the like the best gear!

    Which part of driving is the worst for me? Stopping/parking for sure. Especially if backwards with turns attached. See, I have this strange phenomenon where I think like in Maths. I don't quite realise that the car will go the way I turn the wheel. Nope. I keep thinking it'll go the opposite way due to me going backwards, hence - sign hence -left = right. That's sound in maths, but if you've ever driven a car...you'll just know the size of those bollocks.

    I also HIGHLY, but REALLY HIGHLY dislike doing two things at once. I can't imagine myself yammering on a phone while driving. That'd be a situation of a REAL HIGH RISK. I can talk, I can pay attention to even more than two passengers while driving. But doing two physical things while driving? FORGET IT! Too much risk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nondescript View Post
    I LOVE driving! But the exam was...horrible. Those shitheads calling themselves driving testers(I guess-not your instructor, but the one that drives around and makes big money) however...horrible. They always pick the worst route possible. And if you find a safer way or more economic way or whatever, who cares. Their will be done. I hate that line of thinking. I HATE HATE HATE that line of thinking. Instead of "Get me from A to Z" it's "now turn here, now turn there, ...(you have to figure it out by signs when he's silent), now park, well gosh darn!". It took me 5 tries and a total of THREE THOUSAND EURO! Fking shit!

    But I LOVE it now. I always drive by the rules, let others overtake me(it's city, what's the rush ?) and overall act like I'm driving a 10T Panztiger, not a 1,5T car. I am very careful and very observant. Even when I don't start quite right(so then car like hiccups), I am dissatisfied. Not that it happens a lot, but hey! It must happen even to Lewis Hamilton! Everyone says that my driving is quite boring, but also 110% comfortable. I don't know about the order of my IEs, but I know that S IEs are strong. It's far more likely that Se is a creative than it's for Si to be a programme, but wth. I am open to possibilities.

    But do I love to switch into 5th? ...I'm an S! What do you think? That's the like the best gear!

    Which part of driving is the worst for me? Stopping/parking for sure. Especially if backwards with turns attached. See, I have this strange phenomenon where I think like in Maths. I don't quite realise that the car will go the way I turn the wheel. Nope. I keep thinking it'll go the opposite way due to me going backwards, hence - sign hence -left = right. That's sound in maths, but if you've ever driven a car...you'll just know the size of those bollocks.

    I also HIGHLY, but REALLY HIGHLY dislike doing two things at once. I can't imagine myself yammering on a phone while driving. That'd be a situation of a REAL HIGH RISK. I can talk, I can pay attention to even more than two passengers while driving. But doing two physical things while driving? FORGET IT! Too much risk!
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    It ain't so much well a person drives that indicates strong or weak Se. Weaker Se types get more pumped up and stimulated the first few times they drive really fast....to what would be under-stimulating for a stronger Se type and the stronger Se type remains more nonchalant and relaxed. Can they still carry a conversation on casually at higher speeds? Shit like that tells apart the two. Weaker Se types are also much quicker to throw their seat belts on and look squirmy....it's pretty funny to see. You don't have to drive as fast before they start to grip on for dear life. Stronger Se types improvise better when being pursued by cops. Once I was being pursued and saw a side street. never even knew it was there. I only had a flicker of information that there would be a driveway waiting for me perfect. It was like automatic that I turned the car down the street and lo and behold there was that driveway. Pulled into it and shut everything down. The cop sped right by me. hehe. In a street race, a rule of thumb is that a v4 in the hands of a SLE drives like a v8 in the hands of an INFj. One afternoon, I raced home a v6 in a v4....it was mainly on the highway with a designated end point into the city. naturally he had the advantage given all things equal but it wasn't equal when you take reckless driving into account....I turned a typically hour ride into much much less and didn't get any tickets....you couldn't push that V4 any further.

    The same applies to any activity....if I were to rob a bank I'd only bring in people with strong Se to do on the ground stuff. in high school I used to have this scam I would do all the time on the big franchise clothing stores to make some quick money. It worked better with more than one person so I brought along a childhood friend but also to cut him in on my little score. I always put out the disclaimer that hanging around with me can get you in trouble. He was weak in Se. All I had him do was go into the dressing room and remove the ink censor. I had come up with a way for removing it using nothing more than a butter knife. Heh, see what happened was I bought something once and they forgot to remove the ink censor. where there's a will there's a way. I even supplied the butter knife. He had to have been in there for ten minutes, then comes out of the dressing room with this look on his face. I went in there pissed off and saw that he had completely fumbled it up. He looked like he'd been in there with a ghost. "I can't do it! I can't do it!" he cried. I told him to get out. I had it done in a minute. heh
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    The same applies to any activity....if I were to rob a bank I'd only bring in people with strong Se to do on the ground stuff. in high school I used to have this scam I would do all the time on the big franchise clothing stores to make some quick money. It worked better with more than one person so I brought along a childhood friend but also to cut him in on my little score. I always put out the disclaimer that hanging around with me can get you in trouble. He was weak in Se. All I had him do was go into the dressing room and remove the ink censor. I had come up with a way for removing it using nothing more than a butter knife. Heh, see what happened was I bought something once and they forgot to remove the ink censor. where there's a will there's a way. I even supplied the butter knife. He had to have been in there for ten minutes, then comes out of the dressing room with this look on his face. I went in there pissed off and saw that he had completely fumbled it up. He looked like he'd been in there with a ghost. "I can't do it! I can't do it!" he cried. I told him to get out. I had it done in a minute. heh
    Petty crime shoplifting is not Se related. You childhood friend had no practice removing the ink strainer with butter knives, so you sent him in to do something he wasn't trained to do.

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