I don't. I say "I love the cook." And usually remain quiet. So what type does that make?Originally Posted by FDG
I don't. I say "I love the cook." And usually remain quiet. So what type does that make?
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Dumb?
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
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Dual type
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Well you could check this out
Thank you
You're welcome
Given enough time I figure this stuff out on my own.I like that site. The information, as it is presented, is really easy to understand.
http://en.socionics.ru/index.php?opt...252&Itemid=189
Technology, function, action, deed, fact, knowledge, use, benefit, business, method, reason, instrument, tool, expediency, business team, effectiveness, price, movement, mechanism System, analysis, instruction, mathematics, structure, classification, register, parameter, regularity, law, synthesis, proof, understanding, right, duty, responsibilities
* Te is definitely not my strong area but I do ok with tech stuff and I can reason fairly well. I think I am better with Ti, except math.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
...at @Suz's request
Sorry for not reorganizing it better, didn't have time for that right now
Aspherical Today 10:14 PM
and with Se, it's focused on structure and action and objective, or externally verifiable, facts
woofwoofl Today 10:16 PM
mm, why not Te for that Aspherical?
Myst Today 10:16 PM
your Se description sounds a bit Te-heavy
Myst Today 10:17 PM
a bit too structured lol
Aspherical Today 10:17 PM
yeah I'm used to thinking through a Ti-Te filter
Aspherical Today 10:17 PM
it kind of taints everything
Aspherical Today 10:20 PM
I would probably describe it as a feeling for the explicit properties and behaviour tendencies of a system or object
Aspherical Today 10:21 PM
Te, I mean
Myst Today 10:21 PM
Suz, wanna hear my Ti-biased opinion? Te is just superficial logical connections. stuff like "if you open this window then air will come in"
Suz Today 10:21 PM
aspherical so how would that manifest then, for example?
Suz Today 10:21 PM
myst so what is Ti like, in comparison?
Myst Today 10:22 PM
Suz: not superficial heheh
Suz Today 10:23 PM
myst but phrase it in a similar way... like to directly compare to the example you gave
Aspherical Today 10:23 PM
I would say Ti was about the internal and implicit properties and structure of an object or system
Myst Today 10:24 PM
Suz: uh, it's like a sense of how points or objects relate to each other.
Myst Today 10:24 PM
Suz: but it's really an introverted sense/feeling of it
Myst Today 10:24 PM
logical "feeling" lol
Aspherical Today 10:26 PM
Ti would be self-consistency and logical properties, Te would be efficiency and physical properties
Myst Today 10:27 PM
Aspherical: well "physical properties" can also be Se.. too generic
Suz Today 10:27 PM
what are "logical properties"?
Suz Today 10:28 PM
llike, "does it make sense?"
Myst Today 10:28 PM
it's more like, it's about causality in actions
Myst Today 10:28 PM
Te
Myst Today 10:28 PM
Suz: what I said about how elements relate to each other, thats where logical properties come from
Aspherical Today 10:28 PM
the ideal for Ti is validity, for Te it's efficiency
Myst Today 10:28 PM
thus they are abstracted away from the object
Myst Today 10:28 PM
sorry if this is getting vague
Aspherical Today 10:28 PM
yeah it's kind of like causality
Myst Today 10:28 PM
I'm basically quoting Jung but his stuff makes so much sense
Myst Today 10:29 PM
Aspherical, efficiency is too generic again. Ti can care about that too
Suz Today 10:29 PM
but i've also heard Te described as a need for external validation of facts, no?
Myst Today 10:29 PM
Suz: yeah, the ability to see causality in actions would require that
Suz Today 10:29 PM
oh good point myst... thanks!
Aspherical Today 10:30 PM
like with how with conceptual systems in Ti you can say if this is true then that is false, with physical systems in Te you can say if this goes here then that goes there, or if this goes fast then that goes slow
Myst Today 10:30 PM
Te is really that.. you look at the objects and you dont focus on just the sensory traits, you look at the logic of their actions
Myst Today 10:30 PM
no better summary I can offer
Aspherical Today 10:30 PM
yeah Myst said it better
Suz Today 10:30 PM
so... would Te be about validity from outside and Ti be about validity from the inside, perhaps?
Suz Today 10:30 PM
oh cool aspherical i like that as well
aixelsyd Today 10:30 PM
Ti can relate to logic of actions, as well, however, but I think I grasp the intention of that statement
Suz Today 10:31 PM
and i like your description too myst
Aspherical Today 10:31 PM
yeah but in both cases it's causal validity
Myst Today 10:31 PM
well, it's dynamic ofr Te, and static for Ti, Aspherical
Aspherical Today 10:31 PM
because logic follows a causal chain
Myst Today 10:31 PM
the causal validity thing
aixelsyd Today 10:31 PM
if someone's actions contradict self-proclaimed principles or whatever
Myst Today 10:32 PM
thats why I asked you about the system dynamics remember ...static blueprint thing is Ti
Suz Today 10:32 PM
someone should copy paste this convo into a Te vs Ti thread!
Aspherical Today 10:32 PM
oh yeah but causality can be static or dynamic
aixelsyd Today 10:32 PM
but I do see Te as putting thoughts, words, and actions through a logical filter in regards to what those things accomplish
Aspherical Today 10:32 PM
hahah I'm agreeing with you
Myst Today 10:32 PM
aixelsyd: Ti is about relations between logical "points" (objects, elements, etc). so yeah you can use it perfectly well to analyse logic of actions.
aixelsyd Today 10:33 PM
Ti seems less concerned about accomplishing something than finding understanding, correctness, and precision
Myst Today 10:33 PM
aixel sure, that would be this sort of Te causality of how actions work .. they need to lead to some logical result
Suz Today 10:33 PM
aixel can u describe what this logical filter does?
Myst Today 10:33 PM
Aspherical
aixelsyd Today 10:34 PM
i can proffer and example that probably sucks
aixelsyd Today 10:34 PM
like, I used to be worried about religion and going to hell and shit
Myst Today 10:34 PM
I still think I cant describe Te better than with that window example (causality of actions there in a dynamic way. requiring factual knowledge. focused on end logical result. all in there)aixelsyd Today 10:35 PM
and my dad, Te base, was all like, just stop thinking about hell and shit, all it's going to do is make you miserable and it's not going to help you accomplish anything, won't benefit your life, blah da blah
Myst Today 10:35 PM
well Suz if you link to a Te/Ti thread I can do the copypasting
Myst Today 10:35 PM
aixel: thats pretty generic logic
aixelsyd Today 10:35 PM
that said, I think Te is more linked with benefit and cost than anything else
Suz Today 10:36 PM
yeah i was going to say what aixel said, namely that Ti could say the same thing
Myst Today 10:36 PM
aixel yeah..
aixelsyd Today 10:36 PM
that is actions benefit in either a monetary way or a personal enrichment way, helps the world (this is why Te pairs naturally with Fi)
Myst Today 10:36 PM
aixel and I find that so utterly boring on the surface
Myst Today 10:36 PM
benefit/cost/etc for its own sake? who cares?
Myst Today 10:36 PM
I mean for its own logical sake
Myst Today 10:37 PM
I do care about having benefits/results but not because it's logical in this Te way, at least consciously that's not what drives me
aixelsyd Today 10:37 PM
or the logic driving actions. i.e. it's not logical to buy the car. you don't make enough money to pay the gas and insurance, you can ride a bike, etc
aixelsyd Today 10:38 PM
i see cost and benefit as very important
aixelsyd Today 10:38 PM
people who do not pay sufficient attention to that risk making unwise financial and life decisions that can [needlessly] cost them for the long term
aixelsyd Today 10:39 PM
or expect everyone else to pay for their frivolous and wasteful choices
aixelsyd Today 10:39 PM
which isn't fair to people (thinking Fi here) who work hard for their money, as it is, and can barely afford things
Myst Today 10:42 PM
aixel: the part about not making unwise financial decisions makes sense. it's like a no-brainer thing to me. obvious. the rest was weird to me. maybe that was more Fi/Te mix than just Te, sure.
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