Some kind of something : need your help to type a lonely soul

[Persephone]

Yesterday you were ENFj Ne subtype (just lol) ... today you are INFj still Ne subtype. Hilarious.

You are the very first person who suggested ESE for me. Maybe ESE-Fi as you were EIE-Ne?
Sounds very voodoo Your brain is trying to imagine how I will act? You calculate me?
Please keep your calculations for other people here, unless you are able to explain it and express yourself properly.
This is my last word.

[kraut]

Why are you angry at me? Thanks for publically humiliating me too! Don't I have a right to make an error in my self-typing? You are being too harsh on me. It's just your personal hatred for me. Hatred for people is not good. Many murdrers were committed because of this evil emotion. But I forgive you!

[The Martrix]

@LostInDreams, @kraut, kiss and make up!

[Persephone]

@The Martrix I wasn't angry
I just need to understand WHY and this implies a consistent explanation and the possibily to follow a clear line which I did not get.
But hugs are free anyway so I hug you all

I counted all the suggestions for fun:
IEI 13
ILI 10
SLI 6
SEI 5
LSI LII ESI 4 each
EIE 3
ILE 2
EII LIE IEE ESE 1 each

Beta = 20
Gamma= 15
Alpha = 12
Delta = 8

At least now I am sure that I am introverted and IP temperament oriented
Also a very chameleonic one okemon:

[The Martrix]

@The Martrix I wasn't angry
I just need to understand WHY and this implies a consistent explanation and the possibily to follow a clear line which I did not get.
But hugs are free anyway so I hug you all

I counted all the suggestions for fun:
IEI 13
ILI 10
SLI 6
SEI 5
LSI LII ESI 4 each
EIE 3
ILE 2
EII LIE IEE ESE 1 each

Beta = 20
Gamma= 15
Alpha = 12
Delta = 8

At least now I am sure that I am introverted and IP temperament oriented
Also a very chameleonic one okemon:

Of course you weren’t angry. You wanted Ti and all you got was Te.

Yaaaayyy! Free hugs!



Then I suggest you are SLE, LSE and IEE, just so these types don’t feel left out. I think you’re probably not Delta.

Hey! Stop changing! I can’t keep up!

So... what question do you want me to answer in my video????

[Persephone]

Of course you weren’t angry. You wanted Ti and all you got was Te.

Yaaaayyy! Free hugs!



Then I suggest you are SLE, LSE and IEE, just so these types don’t feel left out. I think you’re probably not Delta.

Hey! Stop changing! I can’t keep up!

So... what question do you want me to answer in my video????

Ohh penguins are cute!
I will stop and pick up SLE for a second A lot of Ti is good for me!

Aw aw questions questions... Need to think about!

[The Martrix]

Ohh penguins are cute!
I will stop and pick up SLE for a second A lot of Ti is good for me!

Aw aw questions questions... Need to think about!

Those goofy, adorable, little waddlers.


Oooh! Can't get enough of those SLE duals! Which subtype do you prefer the look of? I'll be having myself the Ti one, I think. That makes me the Fe rational subtype. I think I prefer creative Ti over base, in all cases.

Ask me anything you like... anything you want to know.

[Persephone]

Those goofy, adorable, little waddlers.


Oooh! Can't get enough of those SLE duals! Which subtype do you prefer the look of? I'll be having myself the Ti one, I think. That makes me the Fe rational subtype. I think I prefer creative Ti over base, in all cases.

Ask me anything you like... anything you want to know.

This one is really cutie!

I want more action, so SLE-Se will fit me perfectly!

So questions...
How do you think you fit in this world?
How and where do you see yourself in 10 years?
What were you like as a child?

[The Martrix]

This one is really cutie!

I want more action, so SLE-Se will fit me perfectly!

So questions...
How do you think you fit in this world?
How and where do you see yourself in 10 years?
What were you like as a child?

That penguin has Ni PoLR, and is in a rush.

Are you the Ni subtype then? Ahh

Good questions I'll prepare my answers.

[Aylen]

Why are you angry at me? Thanks for publically humiliating me too! Don't I have a right to make an error in my self-typing? You are being too harsh on me. It's just your personal hatred for me. Hatred for people is not good. Many murdrers were committed because of this evil emotion. But I forgive you!

Now I know you are IEI, because IEIs are very prone to act like that.

[kraut]

*deleted* rash typing again.

[kraut]

I think you might be an ENTj. One ENTj lady was very strify when I tried to get into the conversation when she was chatting with her friend at McDonalds and I was sitting just a table away. Boy was she furious. She lashed out at me and it took a LOT of humility to appease things!

I just need to understand WHY and this implies a consistent explanation and the possibily to follow a clear line which I did not get.

I think this is very democratic because this is about Ti (line of thinking) being coupled with Si (clarity).

Ti is either weak or unconscious, because the person lacks the ability to conduct the analysis himself, so this is either dynamic or F or T unbalanced.

F does seem quite balanced, seeing how quickly LiD snapped out of her anger fit.

All these fit into the ENTj frame. What adds here is how The Matrix, who is blatantly INTj from at least the VI, is attracted here a lot, because that's what the opposites are like--they get attracted to each other because types exhibit their role blocks first, which with opposites fall on their super-id, "seeking" blocks. Of course later there is a lot of regret but the beginning is fun.

@ LiD: Could you check this description out and return us whether you identify with it? http://personalitypage.com/html/ENTJ_car.html

[Persephone]

Oh @kraut are you ISTp today? How does is feel like?

I relate to quite a lot of ENTJ in this description (but still it's MBTI and I am INTJ as per official 2 level test that I took 2 months ago).
There is just a little thing to consider: I do not like to be in charge.
I prefer to respond to others' actions and like when people lead ME.
Being constantly in charge is exhauuuuuusting.
Let's ask the super LIE specialist, @FDG any chance I could be an LIE?

As far as @The Martrix goes, we are clearly not opposites We have almost identical way of seeing things!

But thanks for passing by, sweety even @Aylen was impressed and is hyperventilating since then!

[Persephone]

That penguin has Ni PoLR, and is in a rush.

Are you the Ni subtype then? Ahh

Good questions I'll prepare my answers.

Honestly if I merely read the descriptions, I would say that the Fe subtype fits better, even if it's not 100% perfect either.

Those questions were too serious. Hummmmm can you also talk about your favourite food to change?

[The Martrix]

I think you might be an ENTj. One ENTj lady was very strify when I tried to get into the conversation when she was chatting with her friend at McDonalds and I was sitting just a table away. Boy was she furious. She lashed out at me and it took a LOT of humility to appease things!



I think this is very democratic because this is about Ti (line of thinking) being coupled with Si (clarity).

Ti is either weak or unconscious, because the person lacks the ability to conduct the analysis himself, so this is either dynamic or F or T unbalanced.

F does seem quite balanced, seeing how quickly LiD snapped out of her anger fit.

All these fit into the ENTj frame. What adds here is how The Matrix, who is blatantly INTj from at least the VI, is attracted here a lot, because that's what the opposites are like--they get attracted to each other because types exhibit their role blocks first, which with opposites fall on their super-id, "seeking" blocks. Of course later there is a lot of regret but the beginning is fun.

@ LiD: Could you check this description out and return us whether you identify with it? http://personalitypage.com/html/ENTJ_car.html

Look again, are you sure the woman at McDonalds wasn't ISFp? Hold on, she must be your conflictor. So if you're ISTp now, her typed must have just changed from ESTp to ENFj!
Hold on a minute, since when did Si have anything to do with clarity? That's Ti!
There's noooo way I am INTj. And me and @LostInDreams are Identicals. That much is obvious. Why don't you think we're IEIs?
By the way, that's an MBTI description and bears little relation to socionics.

[The Martrix]

Honestly if I merely read the descriptions, I would say that the Fe subtype fits better, even if it's not 100% perfect either.

Those questions were too serious. Hummmmm can you also talk about your favourite food to change?

Fe...yay! Do you relate to the moments of fearlessness thing?
Hmmm... my favourite food. I ought to pay more attention to Si when I eat, because I never think about taste while I'm eating, unless it's vile.

EDIT: 400 posts somehow I've overtaken you

[Persephone]

@The Martrix, I finally understood the spoiler principle

IDEALIST (Ni-INFp)

APPEARANCE: The intuitive subtype appears as a calm, tactful, languid and diffident individual. He seems torn from reality, inert and poorly adapted to life. However, such impressions are erroneous, for he possesses a fine intuition, which aids his in establishing useful connections and obtaining support from influential people. Externally he seems serene, but in his heart he is sentimentally predisposed, has bouts of moodiness and melancholy, and regrets his mistakes and misfortunes for a long time. His mimicry is somewhat monotonous, often shows an expression of light amazement or full interest in his conversation partner. His gaze is dreamy and pensive, slightly strained, with a bit of luster, often expressing melancholy, attentiveness, or sardonic irony. His speech is measured, smooth, and intimately heart-felt. On his face there is almost constantly a polite half-smile that easily predisposes towards trust. Gestures are modest, timid, undemonstrative. Gait is unhurried and smooth.

CHARACTER: Soft and considerate person. In his heart he is a dreamer and a romantic. Has figurative, associative memory, and can recall experiences from the past down to the smallest detail. Somewhat unsure in himself, inclined to doubt and hesitate in cases he has to speak or act decisively. He does not like to hurry, can delay carrying out tasks and finding solutions to problems to an indefinite period of time. Reminiscing about the past, he recalls all the mistakes and mishaps, then extracts from them lessons for the future. Thanks to a strong intuition sees short-term prospects of affairs and relations, but because of the tendency to idealize everything may also overestimate them. Under any circumstances does not lose hope that in future everything will turn out for the better than in the present situation.

Usually does not aspire to leadership and finds it difficult and tiring to handle organizational functions. Gravitates more towards intellectual sphere of activity than towards hands-on management and production. Dislikes routine, monotony, stereotypes, conventionality, strict order, having to follow rules and regulations. Likes to talk about various unconventional and mysterious phenomena, seeks new experiences, feels attracted to interesting and unusual people. Willingly accepts and promotes unordinary ideas and innovative approaches, but shows caution in new ventures; in such cases prefers to yield initiative to those who are more assertive and energetic. However, if necessary, exhibits outstanding diplomatic skills, achieving success where others, more straightforward and impatient partners who do not attribute much value to flexibility in relationships, would usually give up. Does not know which of the two disputants he should favor, therefore, will try to reconcile them.

In work can become distracted by irrelevant details, and thus run out of time to accomplish the more important tasks. In his apartment or at his workplace may allow for creative mess and disorganization. Being practical, thrifty, and calculating is not in his nature, due to which he misses some major opportunities. Respects strong, influential people. Needs moral, physical, and material support. Due to absentmindedness sometimes forgets to fulfill his promises, but then does his best to make up and make amends.

Sensitive and attentive to other people, tries to maintain even relations with everyone. Exhibits tolerance towards the flaws and weaknesses of others. Does not break immediately those relationships that have been exhausted for he grows used to people. Knows how to patiently wait and how to adapt to any circumstances. For the sake of good relations with those close to him, tries to meet their requirements for him, to develop practical skills, to perform at school and work, and to fulfill his family responsibilities.

DIPLOMAT (Fe-INFp)

APPEARANCE: The ethical subtype makes an impression of a soft, charming and emotional person. Usually looks inspired and optimistic. Possess a fine sense of humor. May talk of his problems and failures with a smile. Ironic, crafty, unpredictable and inconsistent in behavior and conversation. Creates original contrasts, can unexpectedly jab at someone and then just as quickly embrace and kiss his conversation partner. Artistic and charming; unconstrained in conversation, occasionally even with shades of familiarity and impudence. Knows how to bridge the distance. Considerate, tactful, and caring; at times he is simply charming, so great is his talent at positively predisposing others to himself and being liked. Talented at persuasion: states requests in such a manner that it is difficult to refuse them. His movements are refined ; his gait is graceful, hasty. Speech is full of emotion, rich with shades, sometimes melodious.

CHARACTER: Emotional and charming, easily and naturally comes into contact with unfamiliar people, predisposing them towards trust with his warmth and sincerity. Able to cheer others up, make them laugh with his unusual antics and utterances. Well versed in feelings and moods of people, able to establish and maintain useful contacts for reaching his goals and to find best suited candidates for implementation of the conceived. To each person he is able to find an individual approach. Often puts his requests in such a form that it is difficult to turn him down. Independent by nature, impulsive, unpredictable in his actions; given to impromptu acts and improvisations. Unobtrusive with his feelings - if he does not see reciprocity, he will distance. Consults with others before making important decisions, though does not always follow their advice.

Elegant, skillful in becoming liked, readily gives out compliments. Enjoys being at the center of the attention. Figuratively and with a refined sense of humor retells stories of his experiences. Enjoys and knows how to reconcile those who are arguing. Sometimes he is given to irony and ridicule, but says even unpleasant things as if in jest and with a smile.

Very much in need of praise and encouragement. Sensitive of criticism of his work or investing effort that has not been appreciated; this lowers his productivity. While if he is praised in advance, this encourages him to strive to overcome difficulties and aid him in gaining confidence. In his heart he is very vulnerable and acutely aware of his failures. Internally contradictory, prone to abrupt mood swings: from laughter to tears and in reverse. Easy lights up with a new idea, but can quickly lose interest if it requires a lot of patience and effort for realization. Passionately tries to prove his correctness; accepts advice only after he has calmed down, and even then only until the next emotional outburst. Needs support of a strong-willed, capable, energetic person.

Somewhat distrustful and suggestible. Readily shares his problems with others, seeking their sympathy, understanding, and support. Inclined to demonstrate his physical or personal sufferings. Sensing danger, he transmits his apprehensive and restless mood to those around him. Nonchalant and imperturbable, but this is only a tactic that allows him to make a good impression. Sometimes he evokes awe and admiration in others by demonstrating fearlessness in dangerous situations. His composed serene state is transmitted onto others, allowing them to distance from their everyday worries and problems.

Graceful in his movements, shows refinement, good manners, dresses tastefully. Fastidious in his household. Possesses an aesthetic taste, appreciates ornaments and decorations. Enjoys comfort. Cares about his own appearance as well as appearance of others. Wasteful and uneconomical; can purchase needless things; dislikes those who are frugal over minor purchases. Does not attach much value to material things, and thus can be careless with them. Borrowing or lending something, may forget about it for a long time.

[The Martrix]

@The Martrix, I finally understood the spoiler principle

IDEALIST (Ni-INFp)

APPEARANCE: The intuitive subtype appears as a calm, tactful, languid and diffident individual. He seems torn from reality, inert and poorly adapted to life. However, such impressions are erroneous, for he possesses a fine intuition, which aids his in establishing useful connections and obtaining support from influential people. Externally he seems serene, but in his heart he is sentimentally predisposed, has bouts of moodiness and melancholy, and regrets his mistakes and misfortunes for a long time. His mimicry is somewhat monotonous, often shows an expression of light amazement or full interest in his conversation partner. His gaze is dreamy and pensive, slightly strained, with a bit of luster, often expressing melancholy, attentiveness, or sardonic irony. His speech is measured, smooth, and intimately heart-felt. On his face there is almost constantly a polite half-smile that easily predisposes towards trust. Gestures are modest, timid, undemonstrative. Gait is unhurried and smooth.

CHARACTER: Soft and considerate person. In his heart he is a dreamer and a romantic. Has figurative, associative memory, and can recall experiences from the past down to the smallest detail. Somewhat unsure in himself, inclined to doubt and hesitate in cases he has to speak or act decisively. He does not like to hurry, can delay carrying out tasks and finding solutions to problems to an indefinite period of time. Reminiscing about the past, he recalls all the mistakes and mishaps, then extracts from them lessons for the future. Thanks to a strong intuition sees short-term prospects of affairs and relations, but because of the tendency to idealize everything may also overestimate them. Under any circumstances does not lose hope that in future everything will turn out for the better than in the present situation.

Usually does not aspire to leadership and finds it difficult and tiring to handle organizational functions. Gravitates more towards intellectual sphere of activity than towards hands-on management and production. Dislikes routine, monotony, stereotypes, conventionality, strict order, having to follow rules and regulations. Likes to talk about various unconventional and mysterious phenomena, seeks new experiences, feels attracted to interesting and unusual people. Willingly accepts and promotes unordinary ideas and innovative approaches, but shows caution in new ventures; in such cases prefers to yield initiative to those who are more assertive and energetic. However, if necessary, exhibits outstanding diplomatic skills, achieving success where others, more straightforward and impatient partners who do not attribute much value to flexibility in relationships, would usually give up. Does not know which of the two disputants he should favor, therefore, will try to reconcile them.

In work can become distracted by irrelevant details, and thus run out of time to accomplish the more important tasks. In his apartment or at his workplace may allow for creative mess and disorganization. Being practical, thrifty, and calculating is not in his nature, due to which he misses some major opportunities. Respects strong, influential people. Needs moral, physical, and material support. Due to absentmindedness sometimes forgets to fulfill his promises, but then does his best to make up and make amends.

Sensitive and attentive to other people, tries to maintain even relations with everyone. Exhibits tolerance towards the flaws and weaknesses of others. Does not break immediately those relationships that have been exhausted for he grows used to people. Knows how to patiently wait and how to adapt to any circumstances. For the sake of good relations with those close to him, tries to meet their requirements for him, to develop practical skills, to perform at school and work, and to fulfill his family responsibilities.

DIPLOMAT (Fe-INFp)

APPEARANCE: The ethical subtype makes an impression of a soft, charming and emotional person. Usually looks inspired and optimistic. Possess a fine sense of humor. May talk of his problems and failures with a smile. Ironic, crafty, unpredictable and inconsistent in behavior and conversation. Creates original contrasts, can unexpectedly jab at someone and then just as quickly embrace and kiss his conversation partner. Artistic and charming; unconstrained in conversation, occasionally even with shades of familiarity and impudence. Knows how to bridge the distance. Considerate, tactful, and caring; at times he is simply charming, so great is his talent at positively predisposing others to himself and being liked. Talented at persuasion: states requests in such a manner that it is difficult to refuse them. His movements are refined ; his gait is graceful, hasty. Speech is full of emotion, rich with shades, sometimes melodious.

CHARACTER: Emotional and charming, easily and naturally comes into contact with unfamiliar people, predisposing them towards trust with his warmth and sincerity. Able to cheer others up, make them laugh with his unusual antics and utterances. Well versed in feelings and moods of people, able to establish and maintain useful contacts for reaching his goals and to find best suited candidates for implementation of the conceived. To each person he is able to find an individual approach. Often puts his requests in such a form that it is difficult to turn him down. Independent by nature, impulsive, unpredictable in his actions; given to impromptu acts and improvisations. Unobtrusive with his feelings - if he does not see reciprocity, he will distance. Consults with others before making important decisions, though does not always follow their advice.

Elegant, skillful in becoming liked, readily gives out compliments. Enjoys being at the center of the attention. Figuratively and with a refined sense of humor retells stories of his experiences. Enjoys and knows how to reconcile those who are arguing. Sometimes he is given to irony and ridicule, but says even unpleasant things as if in jest and with a smile.

Very much in need of praise and encouragement. Sensitive of criticism of his work or investing effort that has not been appreciated; this lowers his productivity. While if he is praised in advance, this encourages him to strive to overcome difficulties and aid him in gaining confidence. In his heart he is very vulnerable and acutely aware of his failures. Internally contradictory, prone to abrupt mood swings: from laughter to tears and in reverse. Easy lights up with a new idea, but can quickly lose interest if it requires a lot of patience and effort for realization. Passionately tries to prove his correctness; accepts advice only after he has calmed down, and even then only until the next emotional outburst. Needs support of a strong-willed, capable, energetic person.

Somewhat distrustful and suggestible. Readily shares his problems with others, seeking their sympathy, understanding, and support. Inclined to demonstrate his physical or personal sufferings. Sensing danger, he transmits his apprehensive and restless mood to those around him. Nonchalant and imperturbable, but this is only a tactic that allows him to make a good impression. Sometimes he evokes awe and admiration in others by demonstrating fearlessness in dangerous situations. His composed serene state is transmitted onto others, allowing them to distance from their everyday worries and problems.

Graceful in his movements, shows refinement, good manners, dresses tastefully. Fastidious in his household. Possesses an aesthetic taste, appreciates ornaments and decorations. Enjoys comfort. Cares about his own appearance as well as appearance of others. Wasteful and uneconomical; can purchase needless things; dislikes those who are frugal over minor purchases. Does not attach much value to material things, and thus can be careless with them. Borrowing or lending something, may forget about it for a long time.

How. Did. You. Do. THAAAT!
Oh...

got it!

You're IEI... just a bit.

[Persephone]

How. Did. You. Do. THAAAT!
Oh...

got it!

You're IEI... just a bit.

Yes, I am so pround of my first spoiler trial!!

I am IEILILESEIEESI - LIE subtype

[The Martrix]

Yes, I am so pround of my first spoiler trial!!

I am IEILILESEIEESI - LIE subtype

Admit it. You don't want to be typed.

[Persephone]

Admit it. You don't want to be typed.

Rebel power!!!

[The Martrix]

Rebel power!!!

Let's trash this place.

[Persephone]

Let's trash this place.

Hum that's an idea.
Where is your video?????
I am still thinking about making the drunk one

[The Martrix]

Hum that's an idea.
Where is your video?????
I am still thinking about making the drunk one

Let's do it! Grab a chair...
Sorry for making you wait, but I am too ill to make a video, right now. I look bleurgh!
I am still thinking you should too. If you make one, I'll make one.

[Persephone]

Let's do it! Grab a chair...
Sorry for making you wait, but I am too ill to make a video, right now. I look bleurgh!
I am still thinking you should too. If you make one, I'll make one.

We, Queen A., shall wait until you are in shape

I need questions for my video too! @Aylen @Reficulris @William @darya and anyone who feels like!

[The Martrix]

We, Queen A., shall wait until you are in shape

I will not disappoint your majesty. *bows respectfully*

I need questions for my video too! @Aylen @Reficulris @William @darya and anyone who feels like!

I've got a good question when you come to make it: "Are you drunk?"

[suedehead]

From what I've seen, which admittedly isn't much, I think Fe-creative.

[Reficulris]

We, Queen A., shall wait until you are in shape

I need questions for my video too! @Aylen @Reficulris @William @darya and anyone who feels like!

do you have a seperate thread for this or do you want them here?

[Persephone]

do you have a seperate thread for this or do you want them here?

No separate thread, let's avoid too much attention
Better here, thanks!

[kraut]

@ Lost in dreams: Thanks for being very nice in your post as per 06-08-2014. Thanks also for saying a few things that really point to you being INTj. You see, the reason why "we" are a type A and then suddenly someone says we are the "opposte", is because the "I" block is the Id block. "You", is the thing of the conscious, while "I" and "we" (the collective thing, since the unconscious is "collective" according to Jung), and Id is an unconcious block. So, when "you" are INTj, at least based on "how do you act when ..." kind of tests, this is a good indicator that your Id block is TeNi, and that your Ego block is... ENTj. Now, as for control thing, you want to be lead, this does not contradict with Se (leadership, power, authority, "in charge") seeking. Also, given weak nature of S in ENTjs, you would, indeed, become tired quickly using it. The fact you don't even like it, means your Fi i negative, while, for example, with INTp and ESFp it is positive, such that they oppositely, like it. I would not compare yourself to people like FDG, what if he/she is a mistype. It is always too dangerous to do that, unless you are absolutely certain that he/she is ENTj. Please note also that MBTI is largely about the four letter code, and defines types acording to this code, which is written in the same way as in socionics, so a lot of discriptions are similar, plus socionics descriptions can be very hard to understand, while MBTI is very user friendly.

[kraut]

@ The Matrix: No, the woman was ENTj. I am 100% certain. The reason why to you Ti is clarity, is because your Ti is blocked with Ne, and that means your Ti "values" Si, which is clarity. To you they seem identical, in fact you "categorizing" Ti as Si is you Ti-ing Ti as Si. Why are you Ti-ing (categorizing) Ti as Si? Because that's what your Ti is designed to "see". As for you denying yourself being INTj, it is due to your limiting Te -- it is designed to "ignore" (that's why it can also be called an "ignoring" function) factual information, and it is a fact that you are ENTj. You are not IEI because you do not only not VI as one, but also what you say and how you say it, is not IEI. IEI don't talk much, they are like a light breeze: they blow for a second, refresh your soul, and then disappear. They bring dramma, the phantasmagorical air into the discussion, something that feels like the world of elves. Neither are you the ESTp, or you would be dealing me death blows with every word and laughing me into the ground.

[The Martrix]

@kraut

Let's see how I match with INFp.

DIPLOMAT (Fe-INFp)


APPEARANCE: The ethical subtype makes an impression of a soft, charming and emotional person. Usually looks inspired and optimistic. Possess a fine sense of humor. May talk of his problems and failures with a smile. Ironic, crafty, unpredictable and inconsistent in behavior and conversation. Creates original contrasts, can unexpectedly jab at someone and then just as quickly embrace and kiss his conversation partner. Artistic and charming; unconstrained in conversation, occasionally even with shades of familiarity and impudence. Knows how to bridge the distance. Considerate, tactful, and caring; at times he is simply charming, so great is his talent at positively predisposing others to himself and being liked. Talented at persuasion: states requests in such a manner that it is difficult to refuse them. His movements are refined ; his gait is graceful, hasty. Speech is full of emotion, rich with shades, sometimes melodious.


CHARACTER: Emotional and charming, easily and naturally comes into contact with unfamiliar people, predisposing them towards trust with his warmth and sincerity. Able to cheer others up, make them laugh with his unusual antics and utterances. Well versed in feelings and moods of people, able to establish and maintain useful contacts for reaching his goals and to find best suited candidates for implementation of the conceived. To each person he is able to find an individual approach. Often puts his requests in such a form that it is difficult to turn him down. Independent by nature, impulsive, unpredictable in his actions; given to impromptu acts and improvisations. Unobtrusive with his feelings - if he does not see reciprocity, he will distance. Consults with others before making important decisions, though does not always follow their advice.


Elegant, skillful in becoming liked, readily gives out compliments. Enjoys being at the center of the attention. Figuratively and with a refined sense of humor retells stories of his experiences. Enjoys and knows how to reconcile those who are arguing. Sometimes he is given to irony and ridicule, but says even unpleasant things as if in jest and with a smile.


Very much in need of praise and encouragement. Sensitive of criticism of his work or investing effort that has not been appreciated; this lowers his productivity. While if he is praised in advance, this encourages him to strive to overcome difficulties and aid him in gaining confidence. In his heart he is very vulnerable and acutely aware of his failures. Internally contradictory, prone to abrupt mood swings: from laughter to tears and in reverse. Easy lights up with a new idea, but can quickly lose interest if it requires a lot of patience and effort for realization. Passionately tries to prove his correctness; accepts advice only after he has calmed down, and even then only until the next emotional outburst. Needs support of a strong-willed, capable, energetic person.


Somewhat distrustful and suggestible. Readily shares his problems with others, seeking their sympathy, understanding, and support. Inclined to demonstrate his physical or personal sufferings. Sensing danger, he transmits his apprehensive and restless mood to those around him. Nonchalant and imperturbable, but this is only a tactic that allows him to make a good impression. Sometimes he evokes awe and admiration in others by demonstrating fearlessness in dangerous situations. His composed serene state is transmitted onto others, allowing them to distance from their everyday worries and problems.


Graceful in his movements, shows refinement, good manners, dresses tastefully. Fastidious in his household. Possesses an aesthetic taste, appreciates ornaments and decorations. Enjoys comfort. Cares about his own appearance as well as appearance of others. Wasteful and uneconomical; can purchase needless things; dislikes those who are frugal over minor purchases. Does not attach much value to material things, and thus can be careless with them. Borrowing or lending something, may forget about it for a long time.

I am 100% bona fide Beta.
My Te is not ignoring, it is PoLR. I absolutely hate it!

[Creepy-theticalanti]

We, Queen A., shall wait until you are in shape

I need questions for my video too! @Aylen @Reficulris @William @darya and anyone who feels like!

I'll have more time this weekend to think up some good questions for you for a video.

[kraut]

@ The Matrix: You hate it preciely because it is an ignoring/limiting function -- you try to limit its use, to get it out of the picture, to do away with it, to have it never being mentioned, etc. People do not hate their POLRs, they want it strong, but realize it sucks! Besides, you even saying: "lets see if I'm IEI" is like you giving me an errand to do, and which errand I will not be able to do as you would want, which is obvious, because you have already fulfilled this errand yourself, without giving me an opportunity to. Precicely the way INTj-ISTp relationship functions. In this kind of relationships there is an order than can never get the other side happy, and the ordering side gets "hit" by the "unable" party's 7th function, which is my Se, which is me now insisting (Se) that you are INTj, but which I am no longer going to be doing, because you are just too set in your unbalanced Ti about your own miscalculated type. What is it to me in this anyway, "be" INFp all you want. Lol. What do I care!

[The Martrix]

@ The Matrix: You hate it preciely because it is an ignoring/limiting function -- you try to limit its use, to get it out of the picture, to do away with it, to have it never being mentioned, etc. People do not hate their POLRs, they want it strong, but realize it sucks! Besides, you even saying: "lets see if I'm IEI" is like you giving me an errand to do, and which errand I will not be able to do as you would want, which is obvious, because you have already fulfilled this errand yourself, without giving me an opportunity to. Precicely the way INTj-ISTp relationship functions. In this kind of relationships there is an order than can never get the other side happy, and the ordering side gets "hit" by the "unable" party's 7th function, which is my Se, which is me now insisting (Se) that you are INTj, but which I am no longer going to be doing, because you are just too set in your unbalanced Ti about your own miscalculated type. What is it to me in this anyway, "be" INFp all you want. Lol. What do I care!

I appreciate your analysis, @kraut. I hope I didn't offend you. My intention was not to send you on an errand or correct you. Even if this isn't anything to you, it may be of help to the OP. The problem I have is that I'm not set in my Ti. I doubt everything. I spent my entire day at work reconsidering my typing. I cannot see anything but base Ni. I use it all the time. It is my life, my whole way of seeing the world. I hate Te, not because I think it's unnecessary, but because it is absolutely necessary and I'm not up to standard. I want to get better at using it and organise myself and my work, but it's painful. It's completely out of my comfort zone. My suggestive function, Se, however, it is not painful to me, it is refreshing and invigorating. My ignoring function would have to be Ne because I focus on the one future, not the many ideas. The generation of possibilities for me is unnecessary, superfluous, and above all distracting. I need to stay focused on the long term goal, which doesn't change.

[Persephone]

We have a lovely socionics necklace here:
IEE>ESE>IEI>LIE


Share your drugs, they seem super awesomy fantastic

[The Martrix]

We have a lovely socionics necklace here:
IEE>ESE>IEI>LIE


Share your drugs, they seem super awesomy fantastic

Drugs? What drugs?

[Aylen]

I appreciate your analysis, @kraut. I hope I didn't offend you. My intention was not to send you on an errand or correct you. Even if this isn't anything to you, it may be of help to the OP. The problem I have is that I'm not set in my Ti. I doubt everything. I spent my entire day at work reconsidering my typing. I cannot see anything but base Ni. I use it all the time. It is my life, my whole way of seeing the world. I hate Te, not because I think it's unnecessary, but because it is absolutely necessary and I'm not up to standard. I want to get better at using it and organise myself and my work, but it's painful. It's completely out of my comfort zone. My suggestive function, Se, however, it is not painful to me, it is refreshing and invigorating. My ignoring function would have to be Ne because I focus on the one future, not the many ideas. The generation of possibilities for me is unnecessary, superfluous, and above all distracting. I need to stay focused on the long term goal, which doesn't change.

Be like the breeze...light and refreshing....and shut the fuck up for god's sake. You are supposed to sit and look pretty. WTF?????

IEI don't talk much, they are like a light breeze: they blow for a second, refresh your soul, and then disappear.

Seems someone cares enough to analyze and type you but what do I care...

 

[Aylen]

We have a lovely socionics necklace here:
IEE>ESE>IEI>LIE


Share your drugs, they seem super awesomy fantastic

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!"

I will think of some questions right after the shock wears off.

[darya]

IEI don't talk much, they are like a light breeze: they blow for a second, refresh your soul, and then disappear. They bring dramma, the phantasmagorical air into the discussion, something that feels like the world of elves.

@kraut

Maybe it's time for you to go out into the real world and interact with some actual human beings.

And please don't make me google words like phantasmagorical again, it was a painful experience..