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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    I actually think ESI after watching the videos... am I the only one?
    @blackburry @lungs

    Edit: immediately not sure anymore... but some kind of sensor.
    Why? Please develop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    Ok I filled the 14 page questionnaire and sent it to Meged. Normally I will have a video typing session with her soon, so I will inform you all about the outcome.
    If you are interested, of course
    What are the details for this? I wouldn't mind having my subtype figured out by her.

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    Who is "Meged"... is it another marista with a degree in socionics?....

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    Meged and Ovcharov seem to be the only Socionists that have really offered any info about subtypes (not counting the DCNH ones, which I'm not really into). I've looked and not found much more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    I forgot my keys tonight while buying some food in a supermarket. I felt so idiot in front of my car, looking for those always disappearing keys.
    Haha. I saw you posted a video above. I'll have to try to watch it again another time with audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    Who is "Meged"... is it another marista with a degree in socionics?....
    That was a huge LOL, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by mfckr View Post
    Yes.

    IIRC, they also post a bunch of astrology/new age goobery on their website.
    I do not mind astrology She did ask me for my birth data.

    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Meged and Ovcharov seem to be the only Socionists that have really offered any info about subtypes (not counting the DCNH ones, which I'm not really into). I've looked and not found much more than that.
    I came to the same conclusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Haha. I saw you posted a video above. I'll have to try to watch it again another time with audio.
    There are even 2 videos! I am motivated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    What are the details for this? I wouldn't mind having my subtype figured out by her.
    I do not think it's ethical to spread it over the forum... besides it's in Russian.
    But it's a mix of free questionnaire that implies developped answers, a bit of yes/no questions and a buch of descriptions to chose between, in different situations.
    Really complicated stuff, I needed 2 evenings to complete it. I am used to intellectual reflections and complex concepts do not fear me, though she puzzled me more than once.
    I am an enigma even to myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckr View Post
    Is Russian your native language?
    No but I master it quite well. I am very talented in languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckr View Post
    I see. So is English your native/primary language?
    Nope, advanced or fluent as you prefer.
    When I stay in an exclusively English speaking environment, I pick up quite a lot of British accent very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mfckr View Post
    Ah, okay. Because you did come across to me as a non-native speaker, yet I also noticed you had something like a British accent. Which struck me as somewhat of an apparent contradiction—but now it makes sense.

    Not implying your English is bad—it's perfectly fine. But I doubt you need reassurance about that.
    What can I say, I am a living contradiction

    PS and am pretty confident about my English speaking skills, no worries

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    I am not confident about my English speaking skills

    and I do not like astrology ah man. I will never know my subtype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    I am not confident about my English speaking skills

    and I do not like astrology ah man. I will never know my subtype.
    Shortcuts.
    The subtype can be figured out without any birth data.
    This was an additional option, I am curious about.
    But you will definitely have troubles to figure it all out if you are not confident about your Russian speaking skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    I do bond, but very rarely.
    1. Are you a 6w5 sp/so in the enneagram?
    2. Are you asexual?
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Hydrogen bonding is better, totally asexual!

    But um, I think I got XSI feelings from the way you were able to make steady judgments and articulate them in a forceful (but not overly forceful- just enough) way. You seem like an introvert though, so not Se-leading.

    Plus you sort of reminded me a bit of a video I was watching of Charlotte Gainsburg, whom I have as ESI (not sure if it's correct or not, though!)

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    ^ that's the difference between SLIs and LSIs. LSIs are forceful, SLIs are audacious. It's a different form of persistence/belligerence.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    1. Are you a 6w5 sp/so in the enneagram?
    2. Are you asexual?
    I am not 6w5, but 1w2.
    Am something in between sexual and asexual.

    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Hydrogen bonding is better, totally asexual!

    But um, I think I got XSI feelings from the way you were able to make steady judgments and articulate them in a forceful (but not overly forceful- just enough) way. You seem like an introvert though, so not Se-leading.

    Plus you sort of reminded me a bit of a video I was watching of Charlotte Gainsburg, whom I have as ESI (not sure if it's correct or not, though!)
    Se dom just no, sorry.
    Besides I am not the little grey mouse that Charlotte is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    ^ that's the difference between SLIs and LSIs. LSIs are forceful, SLIs are audacious. It's a different form of persistence/belligerence.
    Do not recognize myself here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    Am something in between sexual and asexual.
    Semi-sexual? What's your favorite semi-sexual position?

    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    Do not recognize myself here.
    Look in the mirror. That'll do.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Semi-sexual? What's your favorite semi-sexual position?



    Look in the mirror. That'll do.
    Demisexual, google it. I will keep the rest for myself, thank you.

    I am different every time I look in the mirror.

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    Aw. I find Charlotte Gainsburg beautiful! There's something really charming about her...
    Different tastes I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemontrees View Post
    Aw. I find Charlotte Gainsburg beautiful! There's something really charming about her...
    Different tastes I guess.
    She is charming but a bit too shy and skinny in my eyes
    She is very appreciated by French people by the way. Also a kind of androgynous icon, very popular in homo circles.

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    Ok, after 2 hours of tight discussion, according to Meged my type is ...
    ILE-Ti
    She was really puzzled and told me that she never saw such a difficult case to figure out in 8 years of her socionics practice.
    Basically I am an ambivert. Normally ambiverts are extraverted in 90%.
    Did not consider that at all. Supposed to receive the detailed report next week.
    ...don't even know what to think about

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    Way to mix up social and socionics intro/extrovertion and make stupid quasi-statistical remarks concerning their correlation. No one's taking their work seriously these days... (I wish I was joking)
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Rick once wrote an article about this and it actually made more sense than this ambiversion bullshit.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Some introverted thinking (not necessarily Ti) type is my first impression from the videos and from the way in which you write. What writers, artists, thinkers illuminate you -- speak to your depths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Rick once wrote an article about this and it actually made more sense than this ambiversion bullshit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Way to mix up social and socionics intro/extrovertion and make stupid quasi-statistical remarks concerning their correlation. No one's taking their work seriously these days... (I wish I was joking)
    Would you have links for me please?
    Thanks.
    Last edited by Persephone; 04-26-2014 at 10:19 AM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    Some introverted thinking (not necessarily Ti) type is my first impression from the videos and from the way in which you write. What writers, artists, thinkers illuminate you -- speak to your depths?
    Thanks for having stopped by.

    Writers:
    I used to be quite fond of Paolo Coelho before he became known worldwide.
    I like a bit philosophical way of writing.
    Used to read a lot of world mythology.
    Also fantasy or magic stuff. The Chronicle of Amber series by Roger Zeliazny was one of my favourites when I was a teen.
    Tolkien as well.
    I have all the Harry Potter books in French, English and Russian

    Thinkers:
    Nobody comes to my mind, apart Anaïs Nin.
    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...anais_nin.html
    Especially this one:
    "I am so thirsty for the marvelous that only the marvelous has power over me. Anything I can not transform into something marvelous, I let go.
    Reality doesn't impress me. I only believe in intoxication, in ecstasy, and when ordinary life shackles me, I escape, one way or another. No more walls."

    Probably Sylvia Plath as well.

    Music:
    Electro mostly. A bit of classics as Vivaldi, love the 4 seasons.
    I also like sound tracks a lot, the Oblivion one for example. Or Tron.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAwYodrBr2Q М83
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eV9...3ABB25A457C47F Royksopp
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7MCUmdHBX0 Leftfield
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JH1L_6ewiA Death in Vegas
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EqIJ85LuzA Max Manie
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7m86aMNjlQ Bonobo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCNb--0PUJo Yiruma

    Air, Moby, Massive Attack, Daft Punk, Faithless...

    Movies/series:
    Games of Thrones
    Fringe
    Inception
    Lord of the Rings
    Cloud Atlas
    Those come to my mind instantly.

    Artists:
    A bit more complicated, I took quite a bit of history of art classes so my tastes are so versatile.
    But definitely Gustav Klimt.
    Otherwise, I like Pietragalla (she is 51):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCNb--0PUJo

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    Would you have links for me please?
    Thanks.
    I wouldn't. Look it up yourself. I think Rick used the terms "Extroverted Intratim" and "Introverted Extratim."
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Way to mix up social and socionics intro/extrovertion and make stupid quasi-statistical remarks concerning their correlation. No one's taking their work seriously these days... (I wish I was joking)
    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Rick once wrote an article about this and it actually made more sense than this ambiversion bullshit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    I wouldn't. Look it up yourself. I think Rick used the terms "Extroverted Intratim" and "Introverted Extratim."
    Dude, she just got typed by someone with more credibility than you. I'm not saying it's accurate or anything, but when she asked you for links to support your claims/statements, and you just brush it off with "Look it up yourself", it just makes you look like a lazy asshole. And it doesn't really do anything to help increase your credibility.

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    Congrats @LostInDreams on finding your type. I think ILE-Ti could make some sense. I still haven't decided completely for you, but that could possibly fit. Just stick around some more and keep posting so we can figure your type out easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Dude, she just got typed by someone with more credibility than you. I'm not saying it's accurate or anything, but when she asked you for links to support your claims/statements, and you just brush it off with "Look it up yourself", it just makes you look like a lazy asshole. And it doesn't really do anything to help increase your credibility.
    I couldn't care less how someone as stupid as annoying as yourself thinks how what I said makes me look. And unlike Meged (or even Maritsa for that matter), I don't charge money for my opinions and assistance, and I "help" as much as I decide to. So shut your stupid mouth and take a hike.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    I couldn't care less how someone as stupid as annoying as yourself thinks how what I said makes me look. And unlike Meged (or Maritsa for that matter), I don't charge money for my opinions and assistance. So take a hike.
    Knee-jerk defensive reaction, quoted for the lols.

    Obviously you do care, not just for quoting my post and replying to me, but because you've posted quite a lot in this thread and seem to be very invested. You've posted now no less than 16 times in this thread (I just counted!), having argued her type a lot. It gives me the impression that you actually do care quite a lot what others think of your opinion, having made multiple arguments for why you believe you're right, and now you are just saying you 'couldn't care less' in order to try to save face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    blah blah blah
    Your 'beliefs' and impressions are your own business/problem. All I ask from you is to refrain from directing your unsolicited views and advice towards me in the future. I've ignored it in the past, but it's a recurring theme and it annoys me.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    I wouldn't. Look it up yourself. I think Rick used the terms "Extroverted Intratim" and "Introverted Extratim."
    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    I couldn't care less how someone as stupid as annoying as yourself thinks how what I said makes me look. And unlike Meged (or even Maritsa for that matter), I don't charge money for my opinions and assistance, and I "help" as much as I decide to. So shut your stupid mouth and take a hike.
    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Your 'beliefs' and impressions are your own business/problem. All I ask from you is to refrain from directing your unsolicited views and advice towards me in the future. I've ignored it in the past, but it's a recurring theme and it annoys me.
    That was rude and judgemental.
    You know I appreciated your time and attention to this thread.
    Nevertheless if you do not agree with anything, please provide relevant argumentation instead of this rude "go and handle it on your own".
    Besides I would really be grateful for keeping it all free from verbal violence.
    Be kind to resolve your issues with William elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William View Post
    Congrats @LostInDreams on finding your type. I think ILE-Ti could make some sense. I still haven't decided completely for you, but that could possibly fit. Just stick around some more and keep posting so we can figure your type out easily.
    Well Meged was so puzzled, sometimes mumbling and not sure of herself that I have serious doubts here.
    She said that the questionnaire showed a slight preference to introversion, high preference to intuition, equal balance between logics/ethics and rationality/irrationality.
    And the overall vusual communication with me had the aristocratic tendency.

    I have always thought I valued Ni so being a Ne dom sounds incredible for the moment... I guess I am digesting il all right now
    I do not dare invade the forum actively yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostInDreams View Post
    That was rude and judgemental.
    You know I appreciated your time and attention to this thread.
    Nevertheless if you do not agree with anything, please provide relevant argumentation instead of this rude "go and handle it on your own".
    Besides I would really be grateful for keeping it all free from verbal violence.
    Be kind to resolve your issues with William elsewhere.
    What's rude is to expect you'll get everything you want, here or elsewhere in life. You won't and you shouldn't. I will resolve my issues where and when I please.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly
    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    What's rude is to expect you'll get everything you want, here or elsewhere in life. You won't and you shouldn't. I will resolve my issues where and when I please.
    May it be as you wish. I do not expect anything apart basic courtesy. Sounds like it's something unfamiliar to you
    In the meantime I found this http://socionist.blogspot.fr/2008/03...erted.html?m=1
    so even if you are not nice to talk to, thanks for having provided the direction to dig in.
    I am definitely an extraverted intratim according to this description.
    And come on, relax and give me a hug

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    LII is the impression I'm left with from that.

    edit: ILE-Ti could make sense also.
    Last edited by male; 04-26-2014 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    Your 'beliefs' and impressions are your own business/problem. All I ask from you is to refrain from directing your unsolicited views and advice towards me in the future. I've ignored it in the past, but it's a recurring theme and it annoys me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Park View Post
    What's rude is to expect you'll get everything you want, here or elsewhere in life. You won't and you shouldn't. I will resolve my issues where and when I please.
    Ironic that you condemn me for unsolicited advice and yet try dishing some out to LostInDreams unwarranted, seemingly maliciously.

    I think we've both had enough of talking to one another for one day, but I just want to point out that what you said is not true. Some people do get what they want in life. It takes hard work, but they usually end of getting what they want. If you're negative and miserable though, you will never see it, because you aren't looking for it. And who's to say LID *shouldn't* get what she wants? Of course she deserves it. You're really trying to be hurtful intentionally now on purpose.

    It really makes me curious to know what happened to you. To get this argumentative and defensive and even malicious over a simple conversation. I don't know what's happened in your past, but there's no need to spread bleakness or misery purposely over others.

    I know I've offered before to listen to you if you wanted to get something off your chest, and offered to talk in PMs, but you kindly referred to that as "gay". You seem very sensitive, and seem like you try hard to 'one-up' other guys sometimes. Honestly it makes me wonder if your dad wasn't there for you growing up. My dad wasn't there for me much growing up either, and there were lingering feelings that I had to deal with to get past that and be happy again.

    I don't know what's happened in your past, Park, but there's definitely something unresolved, that's causing you to lash out and project onto others. I've seen you get in fights now on the forum with woof, anndelise, etc. Many people. Simply if they say something that rubs you the wrong way or you think is inaccurate. It seems like an incredible waste of your mental energy and well-being to worry about that.

    I suppose you'll reject it again, but I'll offer again because you never know, if you would like to talk in PM feel free to message me. If not, that's fine too. And enjoy your weekend - it's Saturday for crying out loud.

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    Come on guys, this makes me feel awkward and unconfortable.

    I was just thinking, Meged identified my SO as ILE-Ne. We are so different, it's just like the Sun and the Earth
    But according to her, we are the same type, one of the reasons it's because we both hate housework.
    Even if I can cook and when I do it's always a success, I just don't like to do it casually. Need time, ingredients and occasion for. I am a really crappy housewife.
    He is pretty much touchy feely, very into ILOVEYOUs every day. I am honestly not in need to hear nor to say it that often. He gets offended about.
    He cannot stay alone even a half an hour. Online chats/phone/internet friends. I crave staying alone a week long and longer, but it's just not possible.
    When I have a week end for myself, it's Christmas, honestly.
    I need a lot of sleep. I can go to bed at 10PM and get up at 9AM. He's alright to have 6h of sleep per night. When I sleep 6h per night during the week, I do 4h siestas on week end.
    Makes me think a lot, all of this socionics stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBain View Post
    LII is the impression I'm left with from that.

    edit: ILE-Ti could make sense also.
    Why?

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