makes me laugh how much he talks about SP things
makes me laugh how much he talks about SP things
So many porn actresses are sp/sx, It's probably even the most common stacking among them. Sex workers too. They know it's relatively easy money (sp) and they don't care about how it's viewed socially.
So much contra-flow.
"Even if man were nothing but a piano key, even if this were proved to him by natural science and mathematics, even then he would not become reasonable, but would purposely do something perverse out of sheer ingratitude, simply to have his own way…then, after all, perhaps only by his curse will he attain his object, that is, really convince himself that he is a man and not a piano key! If you say that all this, too, can be calculated and tabulated…then man would purposely go mad in order to be rid of reason and have this own way."
— Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Notes From Underground.
I have performed the necessary butchery. Here is the bleeding corpse.
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EIE-Ni 479 sp/sx Gentle Spirit
Satine from Moulin rouge is most definitely sp/sx. I cringe in all the ways I related to her, and well.. even if I wasn't a courtesan in anyway, I dont think its a good thing lol. Perhaps it was Nicole Kidman's portray of Satine, she has a very detatched even icy presence even when she's seducing you. It's why the casting directors chose her over Courtney Love. In their words, Nicole was Ice (appearing Sp), Courtney was more fire (sx). I wish I could link the scenes where she's trying to seduce Christian (Ewan Mcgregor) the way she just turns on her Sx energy. I mean, it was played comical way because of the context. Even if she is aware of how to seduce crowds. she is in no way So. Besides wanting to be an actress, there is no interest in connecting with people. She has idealizations of reaching a higher version of herself. I think Christian may be Sx/so.
I may get along, when love is gone
Still, you made your mark, here in my heart
I follow the night
Can't stand the light
When will will I begin
My life again?
One day I'll fly away
Leave your love to yesterday
What more can your love do fot me?
When will love be through with me?
Why live life from dream to dream
And dread the day when dreaming ends
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EIE-Ni 479 sp/sx Gentle Spirit
i type satine so/sx. she is way too focused on the crowd in her performances. her main concern is being an actress. that's the social focus. when i watched the movie last time i tried to type everyone's stacking and i think everyone's synflow (as well as the dynamics). both protagonists and antagonists. it's one of the (few) cases, though, where so/sx and sp/sx can appear very similar in their aims/issues/role in a narrative. so, that's interesting, imo.
That is quite interesting, have you thought of her socionics type. Perhaps her being fe valuing rather than social first?
But also, we have to think about the fact that she IS an actress, by being a courtesan and being a performer. So I assumed that is why she had that social focus. I couldn't tell if it was Fe and knowing how to manipulate the crowd / people or what. I think what makes it hard is also, is she constantly acting for others for others sake, or is she constantly aware that this is how she can get by. And she goes by what she can do, to get by. In the song with Christian, I know she remarks that love is a game, and that could suggest a social drive and aware of social trickery. It's not like an SP person would choose the duke, just to live comfortably.
But I suppose... if we compare her to Zidler, despite his social graces, he would be a SP first person. Do you think?
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I have performed the necessary butchery. Here is the bleeding corpse.
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EIE-Ni 479 sp/sx Gentle Spirit
i don't have an opinion on the characters sociotypes. however, the film is written by baz luhrmann (LSI) and craig pearce (IEI) and their films are usually crowded with beta characters (and actors). so, Fe-valuing is likely. christian could be beta NF (EIE?) actually.
imo, zidler is so/sx as well. christian is an obvious sx/sp and the duke is sp/so ...
I agree with Satine being Sp/Sx.
She's 4w3, and her 3 wing makes her seem more superficially "Social" than she really is.
She cares more about diamonds > social reputation.
She's playing the crowd just in order to get her Sp needs met; it's all just a mirage. She's an entertainer in the stereotypical Type 3 way, but she doesn't truly care about society or social connections much at all.
Also, an So/Sx would feel great shame over being a prostitute, for social reputation matters more to them than being rich; an So/Sx person would be careful about getting involved in something that society at large frowns upon; and if they ever did, they'd hide and not celebrate it – doing the latter is more commonly a contraflow thing.
Satine is quite practical about the whole affair (until she falls for the SX first Christian); and even before she falls in love with Christian, she repeatedly mentions how a girl has to take care of herself, get the money, etc. So/Sx being Sp blindspot is rather oblivious or negligent of those matters.
I'd also say that Christian is rather Sx/So. In contrast to Satine, it becomes obvious how much he lacks the grounded focus of SP; he doesn't concern himself with money or practical matters, he's very much "head in the clouds". And he does yearn for social recognition and being part of a group, which Satine is not truly concerned with.
6w7 649/694 - @ashlesha you kind of look like her btw
1w9 147
i don't see it at all, but I don't mind!
Les Cousins, Dir. Claude Chabrol (1959)
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EIE-Ni 479 sp/sx Gentle Spirit
I have performed the necessary butchery. Here is the bleeding corpse.
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EIE-Ni 479 sp/sx Gentle Spirit
Tai is such a caricature of a soc last person
The character is probably 792. I can't tell if she's sx/sp or sp/sx.
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all or nothing is a mindset of an sx first
Phobic So/Sp 6w7 3w2 9w1
Bit of a comic books nerd, bit of a fashion nerd, a lot of a generalized nerd
Sp/Sx
4 - 6 - 9 combo, regardless of core.
Alice in Chains - Bleed The Freak
My cup runneth over
Like blood from a stone
These stand for me
Name your god and bleed the freak
I'd like to see
How you all would bleed for me
When the pig runs slower (slower)
Let the arrow fly
When the sin lies bolder (bolder)
I'll pluck out thine eye (I'll pluck out thine eye)
These stand for me
Name your god and bleed the freak
I like to see
How you all would bleed for me
If you scorn my lover (lover)
Satan got your thigh (thigh)
If you steal in hunger (hunger)
I will kick you when you try
These stand for me
Name your god and bleed the freak
I'd like to see
How you all would bleed for me
Ah
All these things that you've done for me
Have left me so fucking tired
Oh
I'm not saying that you haven't done a lot of good
But if there's one thing you can do
You can bleed for me, bleed for me
Please stand for me
Name your god and bleed the freak
I'd like to see
How you all would bleed for me
These stand for me
Name your god and bleed the freak
I'd like to see
How you all would bleed for me
LP - Ne-ILE? sp/sx
I'm a dumbass and can't find how to put this under a cut so if you're at work, tell your boss it's my bad.
"I take back like half of the exclamation points.....they make me look....eager to please. Which I AM....but I don't want anyone to KNOW that"
- Carrie Fisher