Attention to all I types

[Hugo]

Does this help you determine whether you are j or p?

j - I try to adapt my environment to personal rules that I make
p - I try to adapt personal rules that I make to my environment

[Joy]

I don't get it...

[Creepy-pokeball]

I get it but I see the majority of the population doing both. Too broad.

[UDP]

I can agree with the j for myself -- I understand where you are coming from with that, too.

Those are really broad guidelines, though, and it is as Jadae said: I use some of that 'p' method myself. But it isn't primary, no.

...

reminds me of something I said yesterday. That "p" is more a secondary way of gaining information for me -- as my secondary function is 'irrational'. But primarily, I am more "j" as you described above, which I could see as correlating to my leading function.

So perhaps you should mention a primary/secondary difference between the two, as opposed to a dichotomey of one or the other.

[Rocky]

j


the p sounds weak

[oyburger]

J for me.

P does sound weak.

[UDP]

(p is for pussy)

[Ms. Kensington]

Does this help you determine whether you are j or p?

j - I try to adapt my environment to personal rules that I make
p - I try to adapt personal rules that I make to my environment

this is hard for me to choose, but i think i would chose J.

Its not to say that I dont remake the rules though.... sounds p.

[Jonathan]

Does this help you determine whether you are j or p?

j - I try to adapt my environment to personal rules that I make
p - I try to adapt personal rules that I make to my environment

Your "p" sentence sounds closer to Ej than Ip. I don't think Ips see themselves as wanting to fit into an environment. They want to get away from the external environment. That's why they're I.

I see p types as being less conscious of rules period. They still have rules, structure, certain habits, but they don't like to focus on these. For p types, rules are supposed to merely help and assist, and should be as flexible as possible.

[Creepy-aurora_faerie]

I think this is a good question.

P for me.

[Austy]

I agree with the general consensus, the P question isn't right. But I'd still pick that over the J interestingly.

[dreikin]

Sounds to me like:

j - if the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.
p - if the facts don't fit the theory, change the theory.

In which case, I'd love to be able to do j [you, sir, are now a frog!], but am definitely p.

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Also, something I found in another thread:

Another thing Aushra emphasized about being different about the two types is that while rationals seem to react directly and immediately to others' actions and words, irrationals have a moment of internal hesitation (sort of like an internal 'oscillation') where they wait for their internal state to react to the other person's actions/words, and then they react based on this internal state.

When irrationals speak they think less about the specific words they are using and think more about the image they are holding in their head. When rationals speak they seem to have more awareness of the words being said and attach greater meaning to them (again, this goes back to the previous things I've written).

[FDG]

The differences are between EP IJ EJ IP

EP make and break rules of the environment
IJ follow personal rules
EJ follow rules of the environment
IP ...what do IPs do? What their mood tells to?

[Creepy-pokeball]

lose themself into the ....