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    @Kenneth Chesney forum user type list:

    1981slater ------ LSE
    Absurd ---------- EII
    Anndelise ------- IEI
    Eliza Thomason -- ESE
    Geneiouws ------- SEE
    Ideae ----------- LII
    Jimmers --------- IEE
    Kenneth Chesney - IEE
    Kim ------------- SLE
    Maritsa --------- IEI
    Radio ----------- ESI
    Reficulris ------ IEE
    Saberstorm ------ β NF
    Scapegrace ------ SLE
    The Foundation -- SEI
    The Ineffable --- ILI
    UDP ------------- ESI
    Woofwoofl ------- ILE


    In TC, you rifled through ESE, then SEI, then rested on IEI for Maritsa; going through over 18% of the entire socion in a handful of minutes, each time saying that you "really mean it this time, just trust me, man"! You stopped short of confirming HereticWacey as being EIE, and you started at IEI for rat1, then went to ILE, then dissolved that typing. Also noteworthy is that you have Aushra Augusta as IEE. You have typed the very founder of Socionics itself as Ti-PolR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    @Kenneth Chesney forum user type list:
    I'm not quite ready to make a proper user type list. Give me some time.


    Quote Originally Posted by woofwoofl View Post
    In TC, you rifled through ESE, then SEI, then rested on IEI for Maritsa; going through over 18% of the entire socion in a handful of minutes, each time saying that you "really mean it this time, just trust me, man"! You stopped short of confirming HereticWacey as being EIE, and you started at IEI for rat1, then went to ILE, then dissolved that typing. Also noteworthy is that you have Aushra Augusta as IEE. You have typed the very founder of Socionics itself as Ti-PolR.
    Maritsa = IEI
    (I can see why she would think herself EII: IEI and EII have the same strong functions but just value them differently)
    IEI
    4 Ni Fi
    3 Fe Ne
    2 Ti Si
    1 Se Te
    EII
    4 Fi Ni
    3 Ne Fe
    2 Si Ti
    1 Te Se


    HereticWacey = Beta NF, likely EIE

    rat1 = Beta NF?

    Augusta = IEE


    and last but not least

    woofie poo = Fi-PoLR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Chesney View Post
    I'm not quite ready to make a proper user type list. Give me some time.




    Maritsa = IEI
    (I can see why she would think herself EII: IEI and EII have the same strong functions but just value them differently)
    IEI
    4 Ni Fi
    3 Fe Ne
    2 Ti Si
    1 Se Te
    EII
    4 Fi Ni
    3 Ne Fe
    2 Si Ti
    1 Te Se


    HereticWacey = Beta NF, likely EIE

    rat1 = Beta NF?

    Augusta = IEE


    and last but not least

    woofie poo = Fi-PoLR


    Then we would be relations of "Contrary" now please read this and explain if any of this makes sense:

    Thinking about this please take into consideration that I just offered you support in regards to your type and helped explain to people how your Ne is working. Did I deliberately act against you? LOL

    These are relations of an unstable psychological distance. Both partners experience difficulties in establishing and keeping a stable psychological distance between them. The only chance Contrary partners have to get on together well with each other is if they are left alone. In other cases partners usually compete over their strong sides. The reason for this is when somebody else is present, each partner tries to capture the attention of the listener by showing off their strong side. Contrary partners may like some elements of the other partner's behaviour. This often helps the partners to begin a more close relationship. However, when they are in company, their interaction can change dramatically. The introvert partner usually becomes distant, relations lose warm feelings and become formal and cautious. Both partners may start regretting that they became too trustful.

    The extrovert partner normally gets the false impression that the introvert partner is deliberately acting against them. This can bring a great deal of misunderstanding and surprise into these relations, as both partners are convinced that before everything was fine. The introvert partner usually starts suppressing the activity of the extrovert partner and may reproach and criticise them. The extrovert partner in return can behave in the same way.

    The most vulnerable position in these relations belongs to the extrovert partner, who may feel as if they are being betrayed. As a result the extrovert partner could start to worry excessively about their next step so as not to make any mistakes and may therefore become very suspicious. Unfortunately the extrovert partner cannot see that their introvert partner is not as bad as they have begun to imagine.

    Evidence 2

    I have an "elegant chin" do you see IEI having an elegant chin?

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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post


    Then we would be relations of "Contrary" now please read this and explain if any of this makes sense:

    Thinking about this please take into consideration that I just offered you support in regards to your type and helped explain to people how your Ne is working. Did I deliberately act against you? LOL

    These are relations of an unstable psychological distance. Both partners experience difficulties in establishing and keeping a stable psychological distance between them. The only chance Contrary partners have to get on together well with each other is if they are left alone. In other cases partners usually compete over their strong sides. The reason for this is when somebody else is present, each partner tries to capture the attention of the listener by showing off their strong side. Contrary partners may like some elements of the other partner's behaviour. This often helps the partners to begin a more close relationship. However, when they are in company, their interaction can change dramatically. The introvert partner usually becomes distant, relations lose warm feelings and become formal and cautious. Both partners may start regretting that they became too trustful.

    The extrovert partner normally gets the false impression that the introvert partner is deliberately acting against them. This can bring a great deal of misunderstanding and surprise into these relations, as both partners are convinced that before everything was fine. The introvert partner usually starts suppressing the activity of the extrovert partner and may reproach and criticise them. The extrovert partner in return can behave in the same way.

    The most vulnerable position in these relations belongs to the extrovert partner, who may feel as if they are being betrayed. As a result the extrovert partner could start to worry excessively about their next step so as not to make any mistakes and may therefore become very suspicious. Unfortunately the extrovert partner cannot see that their introvert partner is not as bad as they have begun to imagine.
    1. If you are IEI and woof is ILE, then you would have mirage relations, not contrary relations.
    2. Always use Filatova's descriptions:
    In these relations, it's not readily evident that the 4th channel of each partner is not receiving any support. Generally these relations are quite pleasant, but no more than that. The strong functions of partners are essentially the same, just of different orientation, thus the strong function of a partner is not appreciated (as in "I can do the same"), while the weak function is presented in an unfavorable light. Thus partners perceive each other as not exceptionally significant or authoritative, but charming and captivating persons, with whom it would be nice to spend some time with but not get into any serious projects. Exceptions are situations when mutual activity falls completely into the area of influence of 1st channel. In family life, these relations can be quite favorable, especially for those for whom the factor of psychological comfort is primary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Chesney View Post
    1. If you are IEI and woof is ILE, then you would have mirage relations, not contrary relations.
    2. Always use Filatova's descriptions:
    YOU and I have contrary relations right? Not woof.
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    YOU and I have contrary relations right? Not woof.
    ah, didn't realize that is what you meant. here's Filatova's description of contrary relations:
    • Here we have four identical functions of different orientation in the same channels. And, at the same time - not a single communication channel on identical functions. This implies that for these partners, there isn't any significant sphere in which they would have same point of view.

      Where one pays attention to external processes via his extroverted function, the other focuses on the internal states via his introverted function, and vice versa. As a result, it becomes difficult for these partners to understand each other and agree, except if they deliberately set out to look at the same issue from opposite points of view - this is sometimes beneficial in creative research.

      So it happens that during a meeting, partners are attracted to each other by their "mystery." Due to this, hasty unions and marriages often arise between people who are exact opposites. Not surprisingly, the life of the spouses in these families can be fairly strained and difficult and often veers on the brink of breakup or divorce.
    I honestly think that sounds about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Chesney View Post
    ah, didn't realize that is what you meant. here's Filatova's description of contrary relations:


    I honestly think that sounds about right.
    you just agreed with me. then, how is it that you agree with the article that we don't agree.

    I said we have contrary relations in accordance to your typing and you said "

    I honestly think that sounds about right."

    So, we agree that that is what I said and you're saying that according to the article we shouldn't agree.

    "As a result, it becomes difficult for these partners to understand each other and agree, except if they deliberately set out to look at the same issue from opposite points of view - this is sometimes beneficial in creative research.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I wonder if some parts of this description may apply to you, Kenneth, e.g. "tendency to create problems where there are not any and moreover to convince others of it", see how that applies to the changes you've made to socionics?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth Chesney View Post
    is "wanting dat bread" really type-related?
    You should check this link and also this link out. Seems like you're almost starting a religion here. You compared yourself to Jesus ("I'd actually prefer to be called "Jesus of Nazareth", since you fuckers just crucified me") and said you wanted to cleanse the temple. Certainly fits with EIE philosophy. You're also starting to resemble Pod'Lair & Ron Hubbard (EIE who started an exploitative religion). Name-dropping is not cool y'know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    I wonder if some parts of this description may apply to you, Kenneth, e.g. "tendency to create problems where there are not any and moreover to convince others of it", see how that applies to the changes you've made to socionics? You should check this link and also this link out. Seems like you're almost starting a religion here. You compared yourself to Jesus (I'd actually prefer to be called "Jesus of Nazareth", since you fuckers just crucified me) and said you wanted to cleanse the temple. Certainly fits with EIE philosophy. You're also starting to resemble Pod'Lair & Ron Hubbard (EIE who started an exploitative religion). Name-dropping is not cool y'know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath View Post
    I wonder if some parts of this description may apply to you, Kenneth, e.g. "tendency to create problems where there are not any and moreover to convince others of it", see how that applies to the changes you've made to socionics? You should check this link and also this link out. Seems like you're almost starting a religion here. You compared yourself to Jesus (I'd actually prefer to be called "Jesus of Nazareth", since you fuckers just crucified me) and said you wanted to cleanse the temple. Certainly fits with EIE philosophy. You're also starting to resemble Pod'Lair & Ron Hubbard (EIE who started an exploitative religion). Name-dropping is not cool y'know.
    But seriously, I'm not EIE; if anyone is, it's you. I think it's time for Ath to bust out the webcam

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