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    edti: actually, that was really good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    If Hitler was supported by the Allies (US/UK etc) as a means to combat socialism, then how come the allies didn't try to wipe out the USSR immediately following Germany's surrender while the USSR was exhausted
    It would cost too much as USSR (+ his allies in Europe, China) was strong.

    > There's far more evidence to suggest that Allies and USSR were collaborating against Hitler

    This does not exclude that USA and some Europe's elites created Hitler to supress becoming popular socialism and to weaken USSR by the war. On of the examples: when in Spain socialists were elected by the nation to the power - Hitler helped to make an overturn there by military forces. Also Hitler openly expressed the hate to communists/socialists (socialists - is the initial name of communistic parties) and made them problems in Germany, what officially started by falsificated assigning them the fire in the parliament.

    It was expected that Hitler will lose the war in general after being weakned, so USA and other elites after joinging to the war later got the control over the Europe and mb over USSR in case Hitler was more successful there. It was a surprise how USSR was able fastly return own territory and to establish influence in Eastern Europe. USSR appeared to be stronger than was expected. By the result USA took the significant influence over western Europe and USSR was seriously weakened what reduced socialistic movements in the world - this parts of the plan was made.

    > In 1936 Hitler tried to get Britain on board with the Anti-Comintern pact but they refused.

    Elites of capitalistic countries, including Britain, actated against communists themselves. They did not needed Hitler for this.
    It's known about the populatiry of Hitler among some British elites and Hitler's sympathy to them, about agreements between them. Some of them are so serious that stay secret still.

    > That also had the ramification of causing Japan to expand southward instead of attacking the USSR as they originally planned as they needed British support to do so practically.

    They had better plan - to get not only the Europe, but also Japan what was done. To support Japan in the war against USSR would be against this. Meanwhile they could think Japan will be not needed to supress USSR, they underesteemated its possibilities.

    > The US/UK were already sanctioning Hitler immediately when he came to power in 1933.

    As in the future Germany should be gotten by USA, some minor and surface opposing for publicity could to happen. Besides other play. Generally, Hitler had a lot of support by money, technologies from USA and others during 1930s. USA even had own parties alike Hitler's one.

    > Before Hitler they were trying to convince people that the Tsarist/White Russians were going to exterminate jews, even using the same 6,000,000 number they use for the Holocaust.

    For Hitler this had far more basis.
    There was a marginal minority of extremistic Jew haters among tsarists. While among "Whites" tsarists were marginal minority themselves. Tsarism was not popular to 1917, what have allowed liberal revolution in Februrary of 1917. So called "whites" were mostly the followers of liberal or other ideas.

    > The Allies were dead-set on war against National Socialist Germany from day one and Hitler knew this.

    The opposite. Mainly, Hitler hoped on the union with USA and Europe to fight against USSR. There was a game with Hitler until the 1941, so he kept this hope and leaded the Germany to a trap.

    > Remember, Britain and France declared war on Germany and not the other way around.

    And practically they did no strong opposing, while could. France have surrendered quickly and helped to Germany further. While Britain had limited real conflicting. It was more a show until USSR have pushed Germany from own land.

    > Had the UK not been bombing them to shit and the US wasn't supplying the USSR with weapons

    USA needed Germany to be weakened too - so they supported the both sides, to help them exhaust each other.
    If Germany made the war some worser in the beginning - the support could to go to it from USA, but not to USSR. If Stalin have started the war (as he understood the high possibility of it coming) before Germany was prepared for it - such situation could to happen.
    Also there was not so much of help against Hitler from USA until 1943. Only when it became clear Hitler looses - then the support became significant. This help allowed to better control USSR, but changed nothing principally already.

    > from lend-lease Hitler very likely would of crushed the USSR, considering how far he got in our timeline.

    There is no good basis to think so.

    > If you could provide examples that show where and how the Allies were endorsing National Socialist Germany that would be helpful.

    I may recommended you to ask about the sources of what you are asking at Kurginyan's, Starikov's and other organisations the links to which I've given to you above. My opinion is based on the info gotten from them. They researched that and close themes seriously and should to help you on good level.

    Besides them, you may search for the info yourself in Internet, especially taking into account the sources I'd had would be in Russian. Internet and some books should to have a data about financial and technological support from USA to Germany during Hitler being at power there. Also about the help to him and Nazi party in earlier times. Including mass medias support, contacts with elites, possible agreements. As not all of this support was done openly and some still stays officially secret, you will not find all, but enough to link with logics of what have happened practically.

    The arguments to oppose that Hitler was not created and supported by USA and other Europe's elites to fight against socialism in Europe and world, including to fight against the main socialistic state USSR, - I don't find as comparably strong.
    To understand the other view point you'll can with the help of the organisations above - they are specialized on informational opposing to capitalism, current USA politics, etc. My knowledge is not so detailed and mb not so systematic to the degree you'd wanted to convince you.

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    additionally to socialism vs capitalism

    One of the problems of liberal/individualistc/capitalistic ideology is that the elites, the minority intentionally supresses the level of majority in development to have better control among them in their weaker state. The levels of education, morality and health are tried to be kept artifically lower.

    To oppose to this exploitation is needed the opposite. To make majority stronger, - so people will have more abbilities to resist and will can better protect the socialistic socium and develop it. USSR did not developed significanly people as persons, - the main reason the socialism was lost in Russia and now the life of majority have become much worse here (what is evident by reducing of peoples' number).

    The common sociopathic attitude and such personal inclination of many in elites mb thought as infantile psyche trait of individualism/egocentrism, which is more expessed at childhood. Those elites mb thought as morally retarted. It's not suprising that capitalism based on retarted psyche state is lesser effective than collectivism and socialism. There is a hope, that sociopathy (as egocentric attitude) mb overcome by better upbringing and psyche methods. It should be possibly to change the situation with elites exploitation to better socium by cultural/education/psyche methods ways, without wars with elites and the ones controlled by them (with modern weapons it's also too dangerous) when they'd hold for keeping their power above others.

    The ideal socium have people which have anything as strong - may to do relatively equally any work, are gifted good in anything. The more people are equal as persons in strenghts - the lesser basis for situation when a minority gets the most power and may expoitate the majority.

    The reduction of Jung's types - is one of ways to make people stronger, more equal, more collectivistic (morally better), happier. The way to make better sociums - more effective and happier ones. Where the democracy is lesser on a paper than in today capitalism.
    Socionics with its duality is the much easier way to this. Duality people join minds in love state and the marriage, study each other in weak functions regions. Also it mb useful if people had 2 jobs (in the same time or by periods): one for strong functions and the other for weak functions to activate and develop them.

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    I've noticed you have an interest to politics mostly, but not to more global and deep reasons behind political processes. But about politics we've exchanged by opinions enough - there are better sources for you to research and to ask them. So we may finish this talking.
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    i just started watching Hemlock Grove and i feel like its one of those shows that try too hard to be edgy but for some reason i cant stop lol?

    gypsy boy is my fave chara so far but then again im only on ep 1

    roman is weird but his mom is hot so thats cool
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    One of my favorite shows right now... Dix Pour Cent (Call My Agent! is the English title) on Netflix. Really clever and funny, too. Plus interesting if you like film because it delves into how agencies work. Lots of Gamma actors cast in it.

    <a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEBC_J1rs_I" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEBC_J1rs_I

    Edit: What am I doing wrong in trying to imbed this YouTube clip??

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    This is a really, really good animatic and I am really curious about how that entire AU works hngg

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    “Don't think money does everything or you are going to end up doing everything for money.” ― Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Have ya ever heard of John Taylor Gatto? This vid reminded me of the epiphanies I had while reading his work "The Underground History of American Education". A book I highly recommend to anyone who feels a wee bit pissed off about being forced through public school shithell. Yes, I mean the word shithell because that's what it was for me, for you, and if you just lay down and do nothing, your children...

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Have ya ever heard of John Taylor Gatto?
    No but I'll look into him.

    I mean yeah just imagine if all those hours we put into public school were fully dedicated towards teaching us actual practical skills, like how to grow a garden or build a basic home, instead of training us to be corporate enslaved cucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    No but I'll look into him.

    I mean yeah just imagine if all those hours we put into public school were fully dedicated towards teaching us actual practical skills, like how to grow a garden or build a basic home, instead of training us to be corporate enslaved cucks.
    That's my kind of thinking. If our ruling elite were strictly "logical" and/or "benevolent" then that's exactly what they'd do. I mean, don't you want your people to just be happy and able to adapt? To be able to survive and even thrive in the event of a grand catastrophe with an earnest smile upon their faces? To people like me the answer is a flat yes.

    Not so much for our current "betters" as they see themselves as. They'd rather us all die screaming in agony as after all, they're fucking gods forced to live amongst us filthy peasants! Oh! If only they could sympathize with the utter horror of being surrounded by such inferior beings they'd just accept that we're just supposed to look down upon them!

    This, of course, is pure projection. Slave morality at both its worst and finest depending upon your perspective. Shit like this is why I'm Christian. It really does allow you to grasp and appreciate the layers of irony present in this world...

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    Posted this in another thread. This is a better place for it.

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    Remember: Donald Trump doesn't abstain from sex, but you should!

    “Don't think money does everything or you are going to end up doing everything for money.” ― Voltaire

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