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    Quote Originally Posted by Johannes Bloem View Post
    I'll repeat the same question I asked Maritsa: how exactly does one "look rational", and why should I believe you? (I mean no offense, I just think it is an important question)
    it looks stiff and forced for a perception type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero11 View Post
    it looks stiff and forced for a perception type
    Any type can look stiff and forced. I'd say those features are related to bone structure and mass, muscle position and mass, and fat distribution and amount before I'd say they were related to type. "Visual identification" works when you observe behavioral tendencies instead of just noting physical traits.

    I will say, though, that the eyes, nose and mouth can sometimes be revealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    = EIE
    lol, for some reason that was my immediate mental reaction.

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    Wow... You people got compatibility issues.
    Let's agree to disagree.

    I love Socionics only to find my dual, and then maybe start a cult or something.
    Might even pass myself as a psychic.

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    something Ne.

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    i´d be damned. From those pics alone I´d say SLI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigh View Post
    Well, it could also be that he doesn't understand the system well (despite being obsessed with it for 3 years). I mean, he seems to be going by test results mostly, which is kind of telling.
    System failure imminent!... deploying repair bots...

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    EIE is a pretty good catch-all for compulsive type-hoppers imo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroypuppy View Post
    Wow... You people got compatibility issues.
    Let's agree to disagree.

    I love Socionics only to find my dual, and then maybe start a cult or something.
    Might even pass myself as a psychic.
    Forget about duals! You need to find your, "twin flame".

    I found mine once, it was heaven meets hell. We collided, spun in circles, set off sparks... Then there was a "Big Bang"! That ended up in an explosion that manifested a whole new" youniverse" for us. When it ended I was grateful. The intensity was beyond what I can deal with in this ordinary world. If you can handle that and come through it stronger, well...

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    I'm in douth again about my type, I might be IEE.
    When I look at the quadra values, I prefer delta values..

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    EIE is dynamic, EJ
    IEE is static, Ep.
    What else?
    EIE wants to be desired.
    IEE wants to be protected from the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroypuppy View Post
    EIE is dynamic, EJ
    IEE is static, Ep.
    What else?
    EIE wants to be desired.
    IEE wants to be protected from the world.
    I considered IEE for myself until I spent a week with a group of Deltas. The Si valuing nearly drove me crazy. It is a subtle thing, because I enjoy being comfortable, duh, but Deltas want to invest in ensuring their comfort in a way that I do not. My IEE friend totally enjoys entering into that and letting them cluck over her like hens.

    Another Beta/Gamma moment occured when my SLI friend had a moving sale one weekend before moving out of her house. The Deltas and Betas both helped her on Friday and Saturday. The EII especially expended herself. But by Saturday night, the Deltas were ready to restore their equilibrium and soak their feet. On Sunday, only the Betas were left helping. We were more willing to overlook our tiredness to help her extract the most money out of her sale and reduce the amount of junk she had to move. The Deltas are actually closer friends to her, which made the event interesting to me from a socionics perspective.

    Which of the Delta quadra values resonate with you?
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    Here are my notes.
    + means I'm more IEE then EIE.
    20140127_011849.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroypuppy View Post
    Here are my notes.
    + means I'm more IEE then EIE.
    20140127_011849.jpg
    If you have a good understanding of those definitions then you may have found a good way to type yourself. Quadra values, as I described above, have been the key to me. Good luck with your quest.
    You seek a great fortune, you three who are now in chains. You will find a fortune, though it will not be the one you seek.
    But first you must travel a long and difficult road, a road fraught with peril.
    You shall see things, wonderful to tell. You shall see a... cow... on the roof of a cotton house. And, oh, so many startlements.
    I cannot tell you how long this road shall be, but fear not the ob-stacles in your path, for fate has vouchsafed your reward.
    Though the road may wind, yea, your hearts grow weary, still shall ye follow them, even unto your salvation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroypuppy View Post
    Here is the list of the types I thought I was in chronological order:

    First test ever: LII for a while
    Then SLI for a short time
    Then ILE for a while
    Then EIE for a short time
    Then ILI for a short time
    Then IEE for a while
    Then SLE for a short time
    Then IEE again
    Then ILE again
    And now I believe i'm EIE again.
    I've gone round and round with my type as well, and while I'm still not convinced I have the answer, I do think there's some value to taking a look at all of the types that obviously are so far off base that I've never once considered them. For me, those are all of the NF types (I'm way too practical to not have sensing or logic in my ego block), Fe dominants (I'm not good or comfortable enough with Fe, and I'm most certainly not Ti dual seeking), ESI (there's no way I'm Fi dominant), and LII (I'm obviously not Se PoLR).

    In your case, there are no IJ types. In fact, EIE is both the only rational and only Fe ego type on the list. Yet oddly Fe PoLR types are the only IP types on the list. Also, I think the fact that you've identified with both EIE and SLI means that you're neither of those types. IEE or ILE is more likely.

    Why not just stop trying to type yourself for a bit and see what makes itself clear? I often find that when I stop trying to force an answer to something, a solution more brilliant than I had hoped for just suddenly appears.
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    And I believe that this is the reason why I have such a hard time being certain about my type :
    Screenshot_2014-01-27-02-36-21.jpg

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    Judging by that Se description, I should be considering IEE for myself.
    “Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”

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    You've done yourself a huge favor developmentally by mustering the balls to do something really fucking scary... in about the most vulnerable situation possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    Why not just stop trying to type yourself for a bit and see what makes itself clear? I often find that when I stop trying to force an answer to something, a solution more brilliant than I had hoped for just suddenly appears.

    I tried that a couple of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Destroypuppy View Post
    And I believe that this is the reason why I have such a hard time being certain about my type :
    Screenshot_2014-01-27-02-36-21.jpg
    Huh. I've not seen a description like this of Se in any type before.

    LSEs and ESEs are perfectionists as well, but I think in their case it has to do with weak Ni. They aren't sure what's going to happen, but they figure if they do a really good and thorough job, things will have to go well. At least that's a theory. In any case, they don't value Se either, so there's probably something to that.
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    I am considering SLI now because I watched the first season of King of the nerds and I think I'm like Virgil.. I might be cold-blooded and looking for an a IEE.

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    What made you think Fe dominance was possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa View Post
    here's where we collaborate....sometimes the type may display the dual's traits in a less capable way...these things are also what the dual pairs have in common

    example: i am EII and to a lessor degree I brag about and demonstrate my preference for Te...that is I talk about how organized I like my surroundings ect and I observe actions of people but the weakness of my Te comes in where I don't judge their effectiveness instead I empathize with the person and excuse their actions under some reason

    Maritsa was right all along.
    I so agree with all of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joy View Post
    What made you think Fe dominance was possible?
    I had read somewhere that EIE often change types and are geniuses. I thought I didn't have any relationship problems, but it's easy not to have any problems with relationships when you have close to none. Also, I can make friends really easily, problem is that of they got no more uses for me, I then to discard them. I need common interest.

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    Socionics questions got me interested in people again.

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    You sound more ILE now. And any type can be genius.
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    You're pretty two sided and full of contradictions. I feel with you because I've a hard time to self-type too but you're IMO completely untypable.

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    I have random logic.

    That was my bug, just like the EIE, but i'm ESE.

    I think this is it.
    But what do I know, I got random logic! Mouahaha xD

    Let's turn life into an enjoyable, beautiful experience.

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    vortical thinking + suggestable Ti = WWwwweeeeeeeeeeee!

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    Damn, I'm ILE-Ti.
    Got a hard time typing myself because of ignoring Ni I guess.

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