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    Quote Originally Posted by nanashi View Post
    Hm. Why might prescribing my behavior based on your idea of what it should be bother me?
    Damn, I hate to be so directly confrontational on this front but you've cornered me here in a sense. Tell me, what's your greatest and most arousing fetish? We're both "victims" so I have an idea but ILI's are a breed apart from those CEO types like yourself. You're the kind to secretly visit the dominatrix's dungeon and pay em' money for the privilege of dominating you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Damn, I hate to be so directly confrontational on this front but you've cornered me here in a sense. Tell me, what's your greatest and most arousing fetish? We're both "victims" so I have an idea but ILI's are a breed apart from those CEO types like yourself. You're the kind to secretly visit the dominatrix's dungeon and pay em' money for the privilege of dominating you...
    That doesn't characterize me at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Damn, I hate to be so directly confrontational on this front but you've cornered me here in a sense. Tell me, what's your greatest and most arousing fetish? We're both "victims" so I have an idea but ILI's are a breed apart from those CEO types like yourself. You're the kind to secretly visit the dominatrix's dungeon and pay em' money for the privilege of dominating you...
    That doesn't characterize me at all.


    Also, I prefer directness.

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    ILI STARE



    I believe April is ILI. But i'm not sure

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    I would say that Angela Martin and Jan Levinson from The Office are both Gammas. Angela Martin is an ESI-Se and Jan Levinson is a LIE-Te.





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    ILI (Ni)

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    i suspect actor Olowofoyeku and her character Abishola are Gamma



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    The Good Place
    Jason Mendoza - SEE
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Just rename this place Beta Central lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    The only problem socionics has given me is a propensity to analyze every relationship from the lens of socionics and I also see that it is worse in my boyfriend. Nothing makes any sense that way and it does not really solve any problems.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    The Good Place
    Jason Mendoza - SEE
    I think he is endearing. Are we sure he isn't ESI-Se?
    Last edited by nanashi; 11-26-2020 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kupava View Post
    'Dexter' is a very Gamma show, too. I haven't seen it but it's a favorite among many ILIs/SEEs I know.
    The main character definitely seems ILI to me. I watched all the seasons over this past spring/summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    The Good Place
    Jason Mendoza - SEE
    Yeah, I think if Jason is really SEE, I might be confused by the actor's personality, which seems to be ESI? Some serious Keanu Reeves vibes.


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    maybe gammas



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    Quote Originally Posted by nanashi View Post
    Yeah, I think if Jason is really SEE, I might be confused by the actor's personality, which seems to be ESI? Some serious Keanu Reeves vibes.

    Maybe. You think he sounds IJ in that interview? I guess if he is, he's a nicer ESI then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Just rename this place Beta Central lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightWilderness View Post
    The only problem socionics has given me is a propensity to analyze every relationship from the lens of socionics and I also see that it is worse in my boyfriend. Nothing makes any sense that way and it does not really solve any problems.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    Maybe. You think he sounds IJ in that interview? I guess if he is, he's a nicer ESI then.
    I was thinking that, but I could be wrong. I'm open to being show da betta way

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    THE GODFATHER SPOILER ALERT
    I believe Michael Corleone is ILI
    (Vito(IEI)-Sonny(SLE) have beta values)

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTprocrastinator View Post
    THE GODFATHER SPOILER ALERT
    I believe Michael Corleone is ILI
    (Vito(IEI)-Sonny(SLE) have beta values)
    Fredo is an ESI, poor bastard.

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    Christopher Nolan - ILI
    TENET cast
    The Protagonist - ESI
    Andrei Sator - LIE
    Priya - LIE or SEE

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    Marceline ESI-C and Bubblegum LIE-C duality.... lol, who would have thunk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Narc View Post
    Mr and Mrs Smith struck me as a quirky take on LIE-ESI duality.
    They are beta AF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great View Post
    Fredo is an ESI, poor bastard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Morpheus is LIE-Te 7w8 sp/so:


    The Architect is ILI-Te 5w6 sp/so:
    Morpheus acts "gammaish" nt in this scene but further in the movie his values are clearly beta nf. The architect and the oracle are definitely gamma though

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    Intrusion (2021)
    The wife is ESI and the husband is LIE.

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    Cao Cao: possibly SEE or SLE (in this TV series)






    Sima Yi: ILI Te, super paranoid about everything could go wrong. Zhuge Liang in this TV series look like a fucking EIE.


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    Video example of an ILI-SEE romance when the SEE asks about children:



    The other type brings up an obvious question and the SEE get a bit embarrassed. I keep bringing up that anime because it really is a Gamma quadra romance story. I have not done the research but I'm sure "ideal" quadra romances exist in the "shonen" genre.

    Tis a great crime that most all of us in the west are utterly unaware that you can indeed write a romance novel targeted towards males. If any women are of the persuasion well, that's a market that is currently being underserved. Ain't a whole lot of shounen romance series and they are getting sales pretty hard as of late. If ya want to "write to market" I'd strongly suggest you make a novel series in that vein/genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    Close, but no cigar. If he was battered and unconscious and most of his armor broken save for that arm she now wields in that picture. If he had struggled heroically only to fall down broken despite his best efforts to save the day. If she had believed in him only to see him fail and yet not criticize him for that failure but to admire the Herculean effort he put forth despite his ultimate failure and to thus defy the expectations of cynical children like yourself and stand by him and complete his efforts not because "she's a strong and independent WAHMAN" but instead because she saw his virtue, acknowledged his strength of character and will, and accepted that while he may have failed, he still acted like a hero. And thus, though he failed, he still provided an opportunity. He didn't cling to her, he believed in her and trusted her in a sense so absolute it cannot be adequately described with words alone. He knew that even if he failed, at worst, he preserved her life and the lives of the children he had with her. At best, his sacrifice was not in vain and that she would finish the job he started.

    Imagine a broken and dying Tony Stark who literally did all they could and yet fell short, the villain delivering the killing blow, only for that final attack to be blocked by Pepper and that last functional arm in a display of true heroism and she, with that one arm, manages to both defeat that villain and in doing so, saves Tony from death.
    Yes, that's far more interesting. I find it odd that for all their talk about gender equality Hollywood producers now cast men as damnsels in distress and thus invert the gender roles, instead of doing away with them altogether and casting men and women as equals.


    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    I have spoken of romance written for males. Men do love themselves a good romance novel/comic. As I've said, there's plenty of romance Shounen manga. Look for it, it's friggin' there in Shounen Jump of all places! Thing is, male romance comes at the concept of romance from an entirely different angle. Care to tell me the difference? I wager I'll gain a good chunk of info that'll further back my theories .
    I don't think that male and female romance is all that different, though. Research shows that men enjoy romantic pornography as much as they enjoy conventional pornography with its cheap plots. The inverse doesn't hold, however, as women don't enjoy at all the cheap plots of: "Hey, neighbour!" 'Hi.' and then sex ensues. If anyone wants to make a name for themselves in the sex industry, I would thus recommend creating romantic pornography that caters to men and women, as that seems to be a yet untapped market.

    Quote Originally Posted by End View Post
    I'd also like to point out that an ideal Gamma romance hinges on the fact that, while we don't "need" others, we really and truly "want" others. We want our dual, even if we don't truly "need" them. I'd wager that characterizes most dual relations if we assume both are "well adjusted" as it were.
    Based.
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    Kikyou: ILI






    Inuyasha: SEE




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    Kikyou: ILI






    Inuyasha: SEE



    I'll add in the thing you saw coming. That romance was doomed from the start because both had crippling attachment issues and hence why I harp on focusing on fixing those issues before seeking duality. If you and your partner have healthy attachment you will be happier with your conflictor all things being equal.

    It's over a decade sense I watched/read that series but damn is that brutal. Take it from me, if you really wanna fuck someone up ask an ILI. Our darkest fantasies will convince you that the Catholics are right. Demons exist and if any type has a direct link to them, well, we're it .

    Also, now that I think on it. Kikiyou is an example of the worst ILI's to have ever lived. From what I remember she's basically a Lich. No "good" ILI considers Lichdom any form of a tolerable existence even if the Sp instinct is their primary (e.g. me). If I gotta consume the souls of the living to continue existing, well, I just ain't doing it. The Sp instinct (as do all the others) serves a higher purpose.

    Better for me to die now and gain life eternal rather than die as the mathematical result of the heat death of the universe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarnished View Post
    Kikyou: ILI






    Inuyasha: SEE



    I probably knew it was coming.
    Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel: "The history of the world is none other than the progress of the consciousness of freedom."

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    Demons really do exist, it's just them who can't fathom the comprehension of those having existence as creatures.
    And ILIs feasibly work as a "mediator" for these... demons.
    Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel: "The history of the world is none other than the progress of the consciousness of freedom."

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    ESI the guardian. His nature is sword but he created a shield in the final moment.



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    ILI SEE


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    ILI - D "punish" SEE - C...


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    ESI? Mattie in the 2010 True Grit remake
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    SEE vs ESI(?)



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    SEE and ILI with aspergers?

    or Ni-LIE and Fi-ESI?

    Last edited by Averroes; 07-12-2022 at 12:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averroes View Post
    SEE and ILI with aspergers?

    or Ni-LIE and Fi-ESI?

    The cook is LII. The woman being encouraged seems ILI to me. Hardest is the woman doing the encouraging. I don’t think she’s SEE, but rather I think she might be EIE. But that’s my least-confident typing of the three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Contrary to popular belief Se doesn’t boost your fighting abilities.
    Se types care more about overcoming, less about self-protection - aggression is heightened in fighting, awareness of the material external world (compared with the internal, for Si types) is keen. It's the function most associated with fighting skills.

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