Thanks for the input! So read that SLI doesn't really like telling other people what to do, maybe that's true and maybe it isn't I am not sure. what I am sure of is that my friends does like telling people what to do, at least he doesn't shy away from it. He is pretty demanding actually and if you didn't know what he is like you might find it intimidating. But again he wouldn't hurt a fly.
Back to the horses, he is always shouting commands if its loud and if it isn't load he gives tons of corrections. He tells people what they can and cannot do around the farm and doesn't shy away from doing that. Meaning if you do something wrong you can bet your bottom dollar he is going to tell you about it. Pretty much nothing gets past him, which can be at times annoying especially for myself because I have a hard time hearing criticism even if it's constructive (but lord knows I'm am trying all the time), and I especially hate hearing demands in front of a group of people because I hate being humiliated. So why did I think of that? Because the other day I was riding in the arena and my friend is riding with me and he is yelling at me when there was a bunch of visitors around working and he was telling me things I already knew about but I just didn't want to hear more reprimands. So afterwards I ignored him for a bit then when the chance came up I had a few choice words for him. So he says he didn't realize he was yelling and didn't realize that I didn't quite know what I was supposed to be doing with the horse in the correct lead. So to sum up this little story, he doesn't mince words and also has no problem telling you what to do.
So the rub here is that he can't "ask" people when he is not sure it is appropriate to do so. For example, in an earlier post I mentioned that he couldn't tell this guy to get his muddy dog off his car seat. It's cause this guy is client and my friend just really didn't know how to go about asking to have his needs met in an assertive and positive way.
I have thought about SLI, but from all the descriptions I have read about it I just can't see it. That would mean his duals the IEE and an extravert and I honestly can't imagine that. I just can't see it. His activity partner maybe sure, but not as the complimentary other half, no.
The part about organization and household chores is tricky cause yes things are were disorganized but are now all in order because I spent a herculean effort cleaning up and sorting. Which was quite stressfull because the guy is a slight horder because everything "could have some use". Which is ludicrous, not everything is worth keeping. In the end though, the change is for the best and he knows it, so it's all good. I think that I am starting to understand the truth about Te base, and it doesn't necessarily mean organization. And as a side note here I want to say that I frikin hate cleaning but I really like having it all clean and done. It's not as though I am this clean freak, I just appreciate that order can bring peace of mind.
ESFp isn't put of the question. Maybe we are both Te seeking and I'm just more ambitious and less patient with mess. That would make him my supervisor, but some how some pieces wouldn't fit. Ultimately I will never know his true type, but I am leaning more towards a delta type.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Wow aren't you a little old for this? Anyways you remind me of someone who would get along with my ex's folks. I didn't like them or their friends.
Whoops it's a friend of yours. I'll call him six-shooter.
Perhaps your ex's folks didn't like you either?
anyway.... I am so thank full for the answers guys. You have helped answer some questions I had, but have also created all new ones for me.
@Maritsa, I can understand why you might beleive he is an SEE, but I can say with some certainty that this is unlikely, and I think it has to do with factors outside of socionics that has influenced his behavior. Whatever his type may be, all I know for sure is that the two of us get along nicely, and for me this is a very welcomed change in my life that I am most gratefull for.
I got an email from this member whose name is, Jenna, and asked her for permission to post it in this thread, because that's how it's done.
It's important to keep an open mind and remain objective. I think that I have come to a place were I know longer care so much about what type he is. Could be all three types suggested going from the evidence I have put forth. Let the pieces fall where they may.Hii, I don't really post on the forum anymore, lately I've just been lurking and I'm not quite ready to return for a couple reasons, but I just wanted to give my opinion on your friend.
I'm pretty sure he is SLE. He looks like Russell Crowe (don't let them fool you lol Russell Crowe is SLE not SEE) and Gerard butler.
I have my own vi compilation that I'm working on.
He seems very Fi PoLR, and Fe seeking. Like asking old women if they still get wet. That's an example of an Fi PoLR using his base function to get Fe reactions. (And saying "controversial" things is mostly a beta thing. You should look up Kenny powers and see if he's at all like him - Kenny powers IS sort of a joke character but he talks and behaves like a sort of extreme SLE)
SLEs are impulsive and don't put much thought into money saving. They seem to basically feel that life should be lived and enjoyed.
SLEs are also quite sensitive when it comes to people liking them - or rather, NOT liking them. They do and say things on impulse and sometimes get bad reactions from people. They don't EVER explicitly say that (to do so would be exposing their vulnerability) but they just kinda tease about it and if you are perceptive you can tell underneath that they may have meant it.
I read all of the posts in your thread and he seems pretty clear-cut. For the record even if you are technically conflictors you can still get along well (SLE-EII I see quite frequently actually, probably because EIIs are so kind, forgiving and tolerant.. Actually Kenny powers has an EII "sidekick"). But are you sure you are EII?
*sheugs* I understand if you don't believe me, you said you see delta and this is the opposite, but you also said there are issues with both SLI and LSE. I'm just asking, maybe have an open mind?
Also btw it has nothing to do with me being IEI and him therefore being my dual. I'm actually in a happy relationship with an LSI. I only care about uncovering a person's type and being objective about it, even if that means I'm actually wrong.
Sorry for wall of text.
He seems very Fi PoLR, and Fe seeking. Like asking old women if they still get wet. That's an example of an Fi PoLR using his base function to get Fe reactions. (And saying "controversial" things is mostly a beta thing.![]()
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Haha, okay yes, I can see your point. Several things:
1. you sound like you may possibly by american, and americans are so uptight sometimes.
2. if it was a complete stranger, sure I can see how that would be odd and slightly disturbing, not to mention unfunny. But in the context of when I witnessed this actually happen, the ladies were clients and good friends of his, and they were all hosing down a vehicle when he asked that.
3. maybe it might do you some good to have your 80 year old box get a little wet, and you wouldn't even have to check your Depends. I know at 80, I am hoping I'm still able to rise to the occasion.
4. serious quadra doesn't equal "no fun".
5. omg, why am I defending his actions?! obviously its inappropriate, but he is such a nice guy.
6. I will shut up now.
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