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[rat1]

I get tired of having to restate everything I say because you're unwilling to make the effort to read & comprehend.

How am I playing the victim by stating that I am not lesbian or restating that I haven't said anything political? I've quoted the retarded bullshit you've posted..

as to where you've gotten your information that I'm lesbian, unfortunately you're mistaken... if I was I've would come out and said it as I see sexuality nothing to be ashamed of.
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This quote above is the PC statement... 'to me there's nothing wrong with alternative sexuality'. When you make a statement like this it comes from your ego. When I said you are probably a lesbian, I was loosely lumping lez and bi together. Maybe that threw you off. They're all those bitchy girls who suck eachothers pussies and unnecessarily come to eachothers rescue, to me.

Now it's been brought to my attention that you have stated yourself on this forum you'd be with a woman but most aren't attracted to you. Seems I'm right then.

When I say victim complex this passive deceptiveness is part of what I'm referring to.

Just get real.. you are into women. Now let's move on.

Also do tell how my sexuality has anything to do with my post regarding preference for the majority of women to have vaginal sex over anal sex...

Oh, I'm lesbian because I don't like dimwads making insanely wrong assumption?..gotcha. profound logic you have there.

Lesbians tend to hop to one anothers rescue, refuse to understand the topic and attempt to degrade / socially ostracize any males who have disturbed the collective fugue state. For the rest of your question, you should ask hitta about that... it's between you and him. I'm not a part of you twos discussion on anal orgasms and never was. Nice use of the word 'logic'.

**edit, I've realized what bugs me most about you. You seem like the type of person who doesn't accept responsibility for his thoughts or actions because you have an external locus of control viewpoint as your crutch, re: astrology. The type of guy who would rape a chick and say she deserved it/wanted it because she's a leo or some other crazy concocted shit.

There are many women (not all) who want to be 'raped' in the right circumstances. I don't think the majority of rape victims wanted to be raped, it's more a psychological victim complex that alot of women have where they almost ask to be raped as part of a fantasy.
It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a dissociated fantasy and an abusive crime. ALot of women will dissociate in sexual situations because they're afraid of their sexuality... afraid of being punished, vulnerable, and all that. So the idea of rape can alleviate the responsibility in womens minds and that's what makes it an appealing fantasy...

This issue is common in women on a psychological level, it usually traces back to some taboo experience where they were either victimized or complacent. The cycle then starts repeating itself... Typically it presents itself as women playing the victim socially, reacting hysterically to imagined offenses, pushing fourth politically correct but manipulative hollow statements, refusing to be rational, and then degrading and ostracizing males for their sexuality.

Occasionally there will be a really disturbed woman who accuses men of raping them while they were willing participants to set themselves up in a victim role, and psychologically relieve themselves of blame for what society deems to be unforgivable promiscuity. I don't think this is the norm... when women say they're raped I tend to believe it unless I have some good reason not to.

Men often have a complimentary problem with taking control and fear of being reprimanded... males and females fears are enmeshed on this level. ANd yeah, I do have the male version of this problem.

Astrology is a causal influence, but it's secondary to the individuals free will. I don't consider astrology an all determining system. I've explained this to you in a previous post. You seem to be refusing to comprehend. That's another part of your victim complex... Don't mention this to me again without having understood what I've said about it.

[blackburry]

I get tired of having to restate everything I say because you're unwilling to make the effort to read & comprehend.

This quote above is the PC statement... 'to me there's nothing wrong with alternative sexuality'. When you make a statement like this it comes from your ego. When I said you are probably a lesbian, I was loosely lumping lez and bi together. Maybe that threw you off. They're all those bitchy girls who suck eachothers pussies and unnecessarily come to eachothers rescue, to me.

Now it's been brought to my attention that you have stated yourself on this forum you'd be with a woman but most aren't attracted to you. Seems I'm right then.

When I say victim complex this passive deceptiveness is part of what I'm referring to.

Just get real.. you are into women. Now let's move on.


Lesbians tend to hop to one anothers rescue, refuse to understand the topic and attempt to degrade / socially ostracize any males who have disturbed the collective fugue state. For the rest of your question, you should ask hitta about that... it's between you and him. I'm not a part of you twos discussion on anal orgasms and never was. Nice use of the word 'logic'.


There are many women (not all) who want to be 'raped' in the right circumstances. I don't think the majority of rape victims wanted to be raped, it's more a psychological victim complex that alot of women have where they almost ask to be raped as part of a fantasy.
It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a dissociated fantasy and an abusive crime. ALot of women will dissociate in sexual situations because they're afraid of their sexuality... afraid of being punished, vulnerable, and all that. So the idea of rape can alleviate the responsibility in womens minds and that's what makes it an appealing fantasy...

This complex is common in women on a psychological level, it usually traces back to some taboo experience where they were either victimized or complacent. The cycle then starts repeating itself... Typically it presents itself as women playing the victim socially, reacting hysterically to imagined offenses, pushing fourth politically correct but manipulative hollow statements, refusing to be rational, and then degrading and ostracizing males for their sexuality.

Occasionally there will be a really disturbed woman who accuses men of raping them while they were willing participants to set themselves up in a victim role, and psychologically relieve themselves of blame for what society deems to be unforgivable promiscuity. I don't think this is the norm... when women say they're raped I tend to believe it unless I have some good reason not to.

Men often have a similar problem, it expresses differently.

Astrology is basically the same thing as socionics, except it works far better. And here you are on a socionics board.. lecturing me about my astrological locus of control... Pretty amusing.
Astrology is a causal influence, but it's secondary to the individuals free will. I don't consider astrology an all determining system. I've explained this to you in a previous post. You seem to be refusing to comprehend. That's another part of your victim complex... Don't mention this to me again without having understood what I've said about it.

LOL, so which lesbian am I rescuing in this thread in my posts? DUDE, you are fucking insane.


You still are not stating why my sexuality is of any importance to you. It's the major fluff of your post...what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

My post regarding vaginal/anal sex was towards hitta. The astrology part was obviously aimed at you.

Also since you seem so keen onto hopping onto my posts that I find some women attractive, haven't you stated that you've raped someone before?..

I am of the mindset that genders are not binary. I do not identify as lesbian for the 8th time. If I liked someone enough, I honestly would not care about their gender. Your attempt at trying to corner me regarding my sexual orientation is completely void of any point.. it has nothing to do with any of the posts regarding astrology or anal/vaginal sex.

Sorry you hate lesbians?..

For the record because I feel like this pointless conversation will continue going in circles because you have zero insight to offer: HERE IS MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE at this point in time, rat.

85% preference for male 15% preference for female. I've only been with one female and it wasn't as exciting as I thought it would be.


I have an internal locus of control. I have never stated nor do I believe that socionics controls human behavior. I do not believe that the universe is run by astrology and certainly not by socionics, if anything socionics types were evolutionary in regards to brain preference. However, I'm absolutely not even banking on that. I simply find it interesting at times.

[rat1]

It's a psychological complex I'm referring to.
If you are bisexual I pretty much lump you in with lesbians. The psychology is more or less the same. I'd rather just call them all lesbians and be done with it. Whether you choose to identify with those labels or not; or hide behind technicalities, in essence it's what you are... it's repressive to pretend otherwise.
Your sexuality is now relevant because I mentioned you're a lesbian, indicated by your behavior... you got offended, and here we are. Now you acknowledge your desire for pussy, and I am proven correct.
Genders are binary...
I have never stated I raped someone, nor have I raped anyone.
I don't really care where your locus of control is located.... there are internal and external influences in everything. You really need both to accomplish anything meaningful.
It looks like we're done now... Glad we could get past this.

[wacey]

^How many bisexuals and lesbians to you know in person? I mean actually give a number figure. 3? 5? 10? 100? "Victim" is not a word I would use to describe them.

[rat1]

^How many bisexuals and lesbians to you know in person? I mean actually give a number figure. 3? 5? 10? 100? "Victim" is not a word I would use to describe them.

There is an underlying victim complex in even the most butch lesbians, but they overcompensate for it through ambivalence and masculinity. That's why bulldykes often have a history of traumas. But if you want to get down to it there are different types of lesbians, and we could break down each types psychological issues.

[wacey]

[Azure Flame]

what's this?

can I put this on my lifecoaching resume?

$50 to touch mah nips.

[wacey]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Wynne

Yes, I see the Premier of Ontario, an open dyke, as having a victim complex. (sarcasm) Premiers are the highest elected seat in Provincial government, it takes a pretty confident person to become the premier. Not a likely place to find a victim of circumstance (excluding socionic erotic attitudes). I think your knowledge of lesbians and bisexuals may lie less in experiential knowledge and more in speculation.

Who doesn't have a history of traumas?

[Hitta]

The anal sphincters are usually tighter than the pelvic muscles of the vagina, which can enhance the sexual pleasure for the inserting male during male-to-female anal intercourse because of the pressure applied to the penis.[13][23] Men may additionally enjoy the penetrative role during anal sex because of its association with dominance, because it is made more alluring by a female or general society insisting that it is forbidden, or primarily because it presents an additional option for penetration.[5][23]
While some women find being a receptive partner during anal intercourse painful or uncomfortable, or only engage in the act to please a male sexual partner, other women find the activity pleasurable or prefer it to vaginal intercourse.[6][13][50][51] The vaginal walls contain significantly fewer nerve endings than the clitoris and anus, and therefore intense sexual pleasure, including orgasm, from vaginal sexual stimulation is less likely to occur than from direct clitoral stimulation in most women.[42][43][52] However, anal sexual simulation is not necessarily more likely to result in orgasm than vaginal sexual stimulation; the types of nerves and how they interact with each other are factors,[2] as "total separation between the vagina and clitoris is mostly artificial, and often based on a misunderstanding of what, where, and how big the clitoris really is"; the clitoris surrounds the vagina and anus.[37][38][42]
In a study of heterosexual anal sex, female participants stated that direct stimulation of multiple erogenous zones simultaneously (the clitoris, the G-Spot, the anus, or other erogenous zones) enabled them to enjoy anal intercourse with much less discomfort compared to anal penetration by itself and to orgasm from it. Women who experienced orgasm during anal sex accompanied by direct stimulation of one or more of the other erogenous zones described it as more of a full-body experience compared to orgasm from direct clitoral stimulation alone.[45]
Kimberly R. McBride's Journal of Sex Research 2010 review on heterosexual anal sex uses the term anal intercourse to refer specifically to penile-anal penetration, and anal sex to refer to any form of anal sexual activity. The report suggests that anal sex is exotic among the sexual practices of some heterosexuals and that "for a certain number of heterosexuals, anal intercourse is pleasurable, exciting, and perhaps considered more intimate than vaginal sex".[6]
Anal intercourse is additionally sometimes used as a substitute for vaginal intercourse during menstruation.[5] The risk of pregnancy during anal sex is greatly reduced, as anal sex alone cannot lead to pregnancy unless sperm is somehow transported to the vaginal opening. Because of this, some couples practice anal intercourse as a form of contraception, often in the absence of a condom.[5][46][53]
There are a variety of factors that make male-to-female anal intercourse riskier for the female than for the male. For example, the risk of injury to the woman during anal intercourse is significantly higher than the risk of injury to her during vaginal intercourse because of the durability of the vaginal tissues compared to the anal tissues,[1][54][55] and the risk of transmission of HIV is higher for anal intercourse than for vaginal intercourse.[1][56][57] Additionally, if the man moves from anal intercourse immediately to vaginal intercourse without a condom or without changing it, infections can arise in the vagina due to bacteria present within the anus; these infections can also result from switching between vaginal sex and anal sex by the use of sex toys.[3][26][41]1

[ashlesha]

hitta what are you trying to argue? nobody's going to disagree with you that "some" women prefer anal over vaginal.
just like "some" men like being punched in the nuts or "some" people like masturbating in bathtubs of jello. "some" people like lots of things.

[xerx]

anal > autoanal

[Hitta]

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[rat1]

Always remember your feelings are relevant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Wynne

Yes, I see the Premier of Ontario, an open dyke, as having a victim complex. (sarcasm) Premiers are the highest elected seat in Provincial government, it takes a pretty confident person to become the premier. Not a likely place to find a victim of circumstance (excluding socionic erotic attitudes). I think your knowledge of lesbians and bisexuals may lie less in experiential knowledge and more in speculation.

Who doesn't have a history of traumas?

For a politician like this one, her drive toward accomplishment is a reaction formation against the helplessness she experienced in the past. She was once a victim, and then became the responsible leader. She learned to take control. Still, she has never fully healed from the past. That's why she remains an open and proud lesbian, and a liberal. Liberalism, in itself, is a mental disorder... Both aspects of her identity are just a way of coping with her weak, powerless past.
Looking up her birth data, funny enough, she has Ketu in Cancer which is the position most known for this.
The democratic circles are actually always full of these types of people.
Politicians have traumatic histories more often than most, infact... they're very empty people. Why do you think occult societies have risen to control politics? Trauma victims often rise to top level management positions because they can see the dark side of things while still presenting a mask of superficial social idealism; seeing the overall picture and controlling it, while it remains veiled to others. That's what the word occult means... hidden.
Politicians are not good examples for you to use. The mask they present may fool you... it fools most of the public, but it doesn't fool me.

[Azure Flame]

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what in god's name am I looking at? Is this an ass? if so, what angle?

[ashlesha]

lying on back, legs up. the asshole looks kinda like a brain.

[Shazaam]

Wow we should all chill out with the assumptions that we arrogantly understand people without communicating with them at this 'deep level.' It's coming off as weird.

As for sexuality, so many guys say the anal isn't a natural erotic place 'cause that's where shit comes out of. At the same token you have guys saying it's a natural sexual place... because of the prostate gland. Now you're making some vaginal wall/near female ass argument. Even if that didn't occur, there are still sensitive nerve endings on any human asshole and if you get your mind into it - them being rubbed a certain way is bound to get you off. But the thing with sensitivity is it goes both ways. You're just as likely as to piss somebody off doing that, then 'turning them on' - if they also don't turn you on in other ways. etc. And not every vagina is built the same what if you have a vagina that genetically doesn't have that? What if you STILL hate it even if you are 'supposed to like it.' What if you still hate gay anal sex even though a man's ass is naturally molded to fit another man's cock?

It's also natural to give birth and raise children. Does this mean you wanna be selfless enough to raise a kid. It's also 'natural' to take a shit. Does this mean you smell it constantly for hours on end, and roll in it. Hey it's shit -it's natural. I just say we let people have whatever sexual preferences they really have and not try to objectify things too much. Or else I'll force every straight guy here to shove a beer can up their ass while telling me how much they really like it, and how much they always had a thing for me but were just scared of coming out of the closet.

[lagerdemon]

*paul walker joke*

[rat1]

Ok, I took it too far and kept trying to amuse myself / get reactions out of you. Even if BB has had bisexual experiences, I don't think I need to identify her by that trait.

I don't think you can assume the prostate being located next to the ass is necessarily natures way of communicating to us to stick it up our asses... there are other problems with the ass. Usually it's painful and tears, and you have to deal with shit all over the place...
It has a high potential for infection. The natural aversion many people seem to have to this could well have been adaptive for those reasons.
In modern times if you are clean enough the downside isnt really there, but in a natural environment you would probably feel concerned about infections.

[wacey]

That's why man invented lube and the anal douche bulb.

Anyway, I wanted to give you props @rat1 for responding before about the lesbian politician. I couldn't really care about your personal views on politicians I just used her as an example that an individual can be empowered about who they are and also be successful. I think you are looking for the shadow side of the psyche and placing ones motivations coming from the shadow. I think you are incorrect. I think you have not shown me that you understand that there is a difference between ones sexuality and ones identity. Sexuality is neither empowered, nor victimized. It is neutral. The sexual identity is a conscious choice though and our society is enlightened enough to allow individuals freedom to express that sexuality. As an aside here I would argue that sexual identity was far less complicated for ancient man, who you dittled was more subject to personal affections and jealousies, not like today wherein the realm of sexuality is dictated by cultural inheritance. Examples of cultural inheritance include taboo's, religions, tradition.

I think my feelings are relevant on this topic because it has been such a central theme for me for much of my adult life. Meaning, I have thought about it a lot. Until you could demonstrate to me that you have some kind of personal knowledge of others sexuality, such as anecdotes of friends who are bisexual, a lesbian aunt and so on, then basically I will continue to not take your views seriously. I don't think your opinions are sounding very holistic if you have not met a person with a different sexuality. Not all lesbians, in fact the vast majority of those I have met, are victimized vagina monologue watching feminists. Many are sexy girly girls.

Perhaps you have not discovered your own sexual self?

But, you did make me laugh, so I think there is some Benefit happening there cause God knows I could use more laughs in my life.

Respectfully.

[rat1]

That's why man invented lube and the anal douche bulb.

Anyway, I wanted to give you props @rat1 for responding before about the lesbian politician. I couldn't really care about your personal views on politicians I just used her as an example that an individual can be empowered about who they are and also be successful. I think you are looking for the shadow side of the psyche and placing ones motivations coming from the shadow. I think you are incorrect. I think you have not shown me that you understand that there is a difference between ones sexuality and ones identity. Sexuality is neither empowered, nor victimized. It is neutral. The sexual identity is a conscious choice though and our society is enlightened enough to allow individuals freedom to express that sexuality. As an aside here I would argue that sexual identity was far less complicated for ancient man, who you dittled was more subject to personal affections and jealousies, not like today wherein the realm of sexuality is dictated by cultural inheritance. Examples of cultural inheritance include taboo's, religions, tradition.

I think my feelings are relevant on this topic because it has been such a central theme for me for much of my adult life. Meaning, I have thought about it a lot. Until you could demonstrate to me that you have some kind of personal knowledge of others sexuality, such as anecdotes of friends who are bisexual, a lesbian aunt and so on, then basically I will continue to not take your views seriously. I don't think your opinions are sounding very holistic if you have not met a person with a different sexuality. Not all lesbians, in fact the vast majority of those I have met, are victimized vagina monologue watching feminists. Many are sexy girly girls.

Perhaps you have not discovered your own sexual self?

But, you did make me laugh, so I think there is some Benefit happening there cause God knows I could use more laughs in my life.

Respectfully.

I don't know why you're giving me "props" and next telling me you don't give a fuck about what I said, and then going off on a page long rant about it even though you "couldn't really care". Most of what you've said is self contradictory like that. Feels like you're trying to slip it into my ass while I'm not watching.
EDIT:
Sexuality is motivated by the shadow more than almost anything else in the personality.
You should explain to a victim of sexual abuse that sexuality is not a victim / abuser complex, but that it's simply neutral. In reality it often is a victim / abuser complex. It should be neutral, but when it is abusive then it is not neutral. When you begin talking about your feelings and your difficult adult life it almost makes me think you want to be abused.
Every sexual offender is going to consider it enlightened for others to accept his victim/abuse complex as simply 'neutral'... that doesn't make it so. Whether something is neutral is determined by whether it is neutral, and this issue isn't. Clearly you're the victim here, and I am the offender. Isn't that what you love shooting for? Just like you love cock in your mouth. It's all from the same underlying motive.

[wacey]

Keep on rocking in the free world.

[ashlesha]

I don't know why you're giving me "props" and next telling me you don't give a fuck about what I said, and then going off on a page long rant about it even though you "couldn't really care". Most of what you've said is self contradictory like that. Feels like you're trying to slip it into my ass while I'm not watching.

i think he has good intentenions, he's just being eii.

[Hitta]

Wow we should all chill out with the assumptions that we arrogantly understand people without communicating with them at this 'deep level.' It's coming off as weird.

As for sexuality, so many guys say the anal isn't a natural erotic place 'cause that's where shit comes out of. At the same token you have guys saying it's a natural sexual place... because of the prostate gland. Now you're making some vaginal wall/near female ass argument. Even if that didn't occur, there are still sensitive nerve endings on any human asshole and if you get your mind into it - them being rubbed a certain way is bound to get you off. But the thing with sensitivity is it goes both ways. You're just as likely as to piss somebody off doing that, then 'turning them on' - if they also don't turn you on in other ways. etc. And not every vagina is built the same what if you have a vagina that genetically doesn't have that? What if you STILL hate it even if you are 'supposed to like it.' What if you still hate gay anal sex even though a man's ass is naturally molded to fit another man's cock?

It's also natural to give birth and raise children. Does this mean you wanna be selfless enough to raise a kid. It's also 'natural' to take a shit. Does this mean you smell it constantly for hours on end, and roll in it. Hey it's shit -it's natural. I just say we let people have whatever sexual preferences they really have and not try to objectify things too much. Or else I'll force every straight guy here to shove a beer can up their ass while telling me how much they really like it, and how much they always had a thing for me but were just scared of coming out of the closet.

Well the thing she posted rather annoyed me because it completely misunderstands how the nervous system works, and assumes that everything works in this very 1 to 1 manner. More than likely it was written by a medical doctor, which quite frankly when it comes to understanding the nervous system, doctors are kinds of horrible because they learn everything in a very linear framework and don't quite grasp neuroplasticity and how the nerves in our body connect back to the brain. The process is quite adaptable and no two people will respond to the same nervous impulse in the same way. The idea that a female's urethra has a higher likelihood of causing orgasm than the anus is preposterous and doesn't understand entirely how the whole thing works.

I simply stated that some girls prefer anal sex to vaginal sex, and quite frankly, biologically speaking this is definitely true, depending on the framework that one has developed around those nerves. The idea that the anus is a sexual deadzone is incorrect and any notion of that should, quite frankly, be laughed at.

Also by vaginal wall, I mean the wall between the Anus and the Vagina. When one has anal intercourse, those nerves get pressed on which are often inaccessible during vaginal intercourse because the don't reach the outer wall of the vagina.

[blackburry]

It's a psychological complex I'm referring to.
If you are bisexual I pretty much lump you in with lesbians. The psychology is more or less the same. I'd rather just call them all lesbians and be done with it. Whether you choose to identify with those labels or not; or hide behind technicalities, in essence it's what you are... it's repressive to pretend otherwise.
Your sexuality is now relevant because I mentioned you're a lesbian, indicated by your behavior... you got offended, and here we are. Now you acknowledge your desire for pussy, and I am proven correct.
Genders are binary...
I have never stated I raped someone, nor have I raped anyone.
I don't really care where your locus of control is located.... there are internal and external influences in everything. You really need both to accomplish anything meaningful.
It looks like we're done now... Glad we could get past this.

There is an underlying victim complex in even the most butch lesbians, but they overcompensate for it through ambivalence and masculinity. That's why bulldykes often have a history of traumas. But if you want to get down to it there are different types of lesbians, and we could break down each types psychological issues.

so, basically you just wanted to insult me by saying I overcompensate by acting ambivalent and masculine and my "behavior" leads you to believe that I'm a repressed lesbian.

"or hide behind technicalities, in essence it's what you are... it's repressive to pretend otherwise." lol, listen, you have never met me, you know zilch about me, I'm not hiding behind technicalities nor do I feel even the slightest bit repressed by myself or others. Your incessant, "I know you better than you know yourself" bullshit that you love to spout is incredibly old. It's not the context of your monologue that I find insulting, it's this ^. "Now you acknowledge your desire for pussy, and I am proven correct"... oh sweet jesus. I've been with one woman and my desire for pussy is, according to you, so incredible that I've completely changed my entire mindset and I better sure as hell acknowledge that I am a full raging lesbian...!! ..seriously?.. You've proven absolutely nothing, other than you like to add your twist to other's statements.

I daydream about men hell of a lot more than females. I don't force myself to. I don't force myself to think or be anything.

Also you absolutely did. If you are crazedrat, and I assuming you are, you mentioned you raped a sister or a cousin before on tc, way back when and when I began to pry to logged off.