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    Meh.

    You can't control what other people do. Or we'd all be in prison. I'm just going to give it my best effort to not kill/masturbate on cats, not be pretentious or arrogant, not gaslight somebody just to see how much I can get away with it. In otherwords: I myself don't want to be a jerk and so I don't want to be like that.

    And I can't control how other people view or see me because of this too. =D If a girl isn't attracted to me because it isn't 'bad boy/conflicted' enough, if somebody insists that this makes me weak or naturally inferior, that just has to be their prerogative. I want to be the change I want to see in the world, and it starts with the man in the mirror. I think that's as good as it's gonna get if you wanna do the right thing.

    Bullies cannot take away my happiness, because I like the way I am. My happiness isn't dependent on people not cumming on cats, I just wouldn't put myself in that environment. I wish to surround my lifestyle with nice and pretty and polite things.

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    I was thinking, that because the cat killing scene would likely provoke a strong emotional reaction in the crowd, this reaction would be a proof of that the explicit, "meaningless" violence is less harmful than the structural and emotional violence. Obscene and "meaningless" (or self-intrinsic) violence is such a strong effect that even a small dose of it is much, it horrifies and/or contradictionarily enchants the viewer and the violence doer. Which is unlike the structural violence that insidiously masks itself and thus even an insane amount of it won't feel like much.
    Oh, is that the take-home message? All it makes me want to do is kill a cat and masturbate on it.

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    What you don't get is that he's not Fi polr, since he look at the consequence of violence/pressure through Fi eyes. Read one more time the rationals. Plus discussing rationnalz behind one's actions is a very Fi-Te stuff.

    I don't want to look iconoclast or something but I think he's actually Se polr. He can really be an INFj sublimating the internal conflict/process of ESTj id vs super-id .
    "The final delusion is the belief that one has lost all delusion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post

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    I wanted to present violence as an unsolvable basic question. I wanted to admit that the my Marxist/adornoilais/desadeian violence analysis is not explicit, but there remains a dreadful conclusion: We will resort to violence, we don't want to and we can't get rid of it. We don't exactly know what is it in violence that corrodes us and what is in it that feeds us.

    I wanted to raise the question about the pleasure of watching violence.
    What are the reasons which makes us volunteer to watch violence, either real or mimetic?

    I was hoping that this unexplainable violence in the piece would show itself so true exactly for the lack of explanations and purpose that it would make the other violence shown in the piece seem like violence, not as a representation of something dynamic and symbolic.
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    "Inexplicable". Except it isn't. Release of frustration and psychological boundaries, gain of sense of efficacy and affirmation of self/ones will, adrenalin, would be some reasons.
    What is the reason he fails to acknowledge those an goes an extra mile in portraying that killing as inexplicable pure violence?
    Because on top of those reasons he finds violence sexual and purifying and exaggerating it helps him get his rocks off.

    People that are mystifying or glorifying or sexualizing violence need to be subjected to it until they get more rounded sha.. perspective .

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    Has anyone asked why artists always use a cat? I mean its pretty blatant they are trying to be clever about it and its a little sick.

    Cat's are adaptable and clever. They have 9 lives, always land on their feet, and curiosity supposed killed them (but satisfaction brings them back).

    While yes symbolically this is all true and a very clever way to do something cruel and feel sly about it, satisfaction doesn't actually bring back mr.fluffy after you chop off his head and ejaculate over him. He just remains dead and its not really funny or clever anymore imo.

    As for the point they are making a point about cattle.... oh gee then why not bring a camera into a meat packing plant, instead of kill a cat? Plus people actually eat the meat. Killing the cat is a waste in my opinion because I don't really see it as a suitable cost of life, other people will sickly say that the artist is giving the cat a higher purpose by killing it, elevating it to be an eternal symbol of art. This is as sick as snuff films where they physical hurt participants on camera to elevate their fame.

    I guess if that's your bag then ok, but its not really mine and I see it as adverse to my own tastes and persona.

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