I understand she was grieving and afraid, but she was projecting her untrue fear that all LSEs want an inhuman, non-complex dog instead of a living, breathing EII for a mate as the truth, and it is simply not true. There is no need for me to calm down. I am calm. Yes, she was generalizing, and when I see someone I care about not only experiencing an irrational fear that any and EVERY dual of hers will be immature but also proposing it publicly, I'm going to call the crap, crap. That's what is great about having me as a friend.
As a general trend, thus far, it's true. Trends are dependent on how many ass holes you observe given all the ass holes you observe.
Even the crazy LSE who come here; their vision of the perfect EII is the woman who can't do anything for herself, who is helpless and needs them so much to do things for her. I say it ALL THE TIME THAT AN EII JUST CAN'T ARRANGE THE ACTIVITIES IN THEIR LIVES BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM THAT THEY GET SCATTERED IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, MENTALLY; THAT'S ALL, ARRANGE THE DAMEN ACTIVITIES AND AN AN EII WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THESE THINGS DONE.
Just because you love me and want to see me happy, it's not going to make a sane and normal LSE love me. Get that. You have to understand that.
Let me tell you the latest and greatest LSE thing that I've been told thus far "I want an open relationship, where you come, fuck me, and leave." I was like *um, do you know who you're asking this from? Just in case you missed it I'm a conservative, traditional person.* I have a very obvious "I go to church and help out the homeless in my community" persona that I wear when I date and I get this? How does this happen? HOW? I feel like every single LSE I meet is dishonest about their intentions, horny, and hung over some vision that isn't real.
What are they looking for?
a. Their own personal idea of physical attraction that has nothing to do with reality. The closer to the way they look like an SEE the better, big soft baby like faces and eyes.
b. Their own contrived standards of compatibility that is somewhat unreasonable to me and my type
c. That I'm probably wealthy
d. someone to just have sex with them as a convenient prostitute
You can mix and match the above in any number of ways.
I almost feel like Feeler types are much more sensitive and flexible in their choice of mates. Take you, I'll name all the ESFp and every one of them that's single, strait and available would want to date you and have a try at a normal relationship with you.
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 04-07-2013 at 03:14 PM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
EVERYONE HAS. Believe me the number of times I've cried throughout this process I don't think any average woman could. My dual cousin is sick of this, she's absolutely sick of it. She says "enough, no more duals, absolutely no more. You're just going to have to date a nice person from now on." How many stories can I possibly have? I can't take it any more.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Why you so stubborn, M?
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Last edited by Zenoa; 06-05-2013 at 02:29 AM.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
sounds like you are claiming to have received an Ne-POLR hit from your boss, whom you are typing SLE.
One of the two is wrong. Either it wasn't an Ne-POLR hit, or your boss isn't SLE. SLEs dont value Ne and wouldn't be hitting an Ne-POLR with Ne. Maybe your boss is ILE? That said, i'm not sure that "training style" is a manifestation of Ne. I guess it could be (in the sense of giving you freedom to be as creative as you want to be), in a non-Te-driven way. I like to have a balance of Te-based guidance, though, with autonomy/flexibility given to me.
Enneagram: 9w1 6w5 2w3 so/sx
I think lots of people end up using socionics as a metaphor to describe things they suck at or just got wrong, to then try to improve them.
I mean, if socionics was really true, I don't think I can explain or sometimes see what functions are like as a base, maybe that would be even harder to do and observe as a PoLR.
Haha nope, I'm claiming that my reaction to the rut I found myself in was Ne PoLR E6ish. Boss is definitely SLE. The 8w7 sx explosive type. Do note however that I waver on my type - I seem to have a hard time gauging myself objectively (I can see myself as almost every type in the socion depending on my viewing angle).
I see your point. I observe X phenomenon and I try to explain it using the socionics lens, and it isn't necessarily a perfect fit. It sorts of offer a decent explanation as a predictive guide, which is what i'm seeking for. Imperfect, but still better than the other theories.
Yes it does, doesn't it.. perhaps I shouldn't be looking at this socionically at all.
Thanks, felafel.
Never in my life did I think I would visit the 16types and read a thread about Maritsa and LSEs.
it does just sound like you were taking things too seriously/intensely.
ppl have a bad habit of doing this and im no different, but really - if your life isn't in danger, there just isn't anything to get worked up over. People need to lighten up more, play more, love more, have fun more. and worry and stress a lot less.
You don't have to work for him. He's not god. If the job is seriously emotionally stressing you out that much, quit, take a week break, and slowly find work that better suits your lifestyle and needs. Obviously being paid for something isn't about working hard, it's about aligning to the right vibration of it. Did you ever see the film, american beauty? At the end the protagonist told his uptight boss to go fuck himself. We forget that we as people have choices and options. That we can chase our own dreams and goals... if you work hard and try to 'prove yourself' to another, they always take advantage, as to him you're just nothing more than some slave to make *his* dreams come true but what about yours? Well the realistic fact is we all need slaves if we want to make a lot of dreams come true, because it takes a lot of people to run dreams. But we need to realize that Santa's Little Helpers are just as important as Santa himself in making it happen. Santa just narcissitically came up with the idea, it is you doing the root grunt work.
And it's why I'm way left-wing. Worker rights. Not 'boss' rights. Fuck you boss!
Ah yes... If you don't build your dreams, somebody will hire you to help build theirs. Since I'm stuck here for now, I may as well make good use of it - network, learn (it's good "training"), whatever, until the opportunity arises. My Santa is all too aware that he needs his little helpers to make his dreams come true after pissing a good number of them off. The firm is Beta populated and can be exciting if you play it well. Keeps me on my toes, and as I survive after each challenge I just *know* I will crumble under, my confidence grows. And that is a precious thing for an E6.