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I feel like doing an explanation.
To use a "right-ordered" system of order to explain my left-oriented mentality - There is an observed effect in psychology wherein a person is given an analysis that supposedly pertains to someone in particular; that person is more apt to believe the analysis, this despite the reality that the analysis was catered generally, not to anyone in particular. This effect gives a persuasive explanation behind why techniques such as cold-reading work so well. This is known as the Forer effect.
Is much of the explanatory power of socioncs attributable to a combination of both the Forer effect and confirmation bias? This is an interesting question, though I will say it is irrelevant. Ultimate truth, in the end, is not knowable or verifiable, all knowledge of things entirely dependent on our perceptions, the mechanisms behind which are faulty and limited. So as such, whenever I discuss ultimate truth, I quickly qualify the debate by asking, "To what are you referring -- Ultimate truth, or Conditional truth?"
We can speak nothing certain of Ultimate, unconditioned reality. The reality of what we perceive, however, we can discuss without much of a problem, as long as we remember that we are not after the ultimate. An elephant is real, in this sense, that it exists phenomenologically. Socionic theories and explanations, likewise, exist. Are they ultimately true? I cannot say anything in this regard. However, putting aside the question if their ultimate essense, we may ask the perhaps better question: "Is soconics/are socionic theories useful? Do they hold water as theories with explanatory power?" I believe so, but this may change.
The conflict between Ni/Si is interesting. In my own life, and at times, I have perceived this conflict as a struggle between what Ni "believes is right" and Si wanting to feel "good", at expense sometimes of Ni. Both ends are valid, and that is the quintessence of the role/leading conflict. My Si likes dressing to get positive social attention, fitting in, being seen by others as nice. Why? Perhaps because it feels good. This behavior sometimes conflicts with Ni directly, for example, when my Ni knows that the person who is dressed best may not have the best ideas, and a person dressed "shabbily" may be the coolest, most awesome person ever. Therefore you should go out dressed as you are in a t-shirt and sweats, to get others to understand the process. So how to go about resolving the conflict?
Also Bulletsanddoves, some days I agree with what you said about "We all need to be touched in life.. .etc" Some days I agree, some not. Erich Fromm wrote about this. One of the arguments he makes is that a, if not the, fundamental motivator of what we do as humans, is the desire to "overcome aloneness." He goes on to describe "imperfect" ways of doing this: "orgiastic" states like drugs and sex, others such as conforming, and more. He argues that love, or mature union, is the answer to the question of aloneness. And he also argues that the paradigm of Western culture, that love is a state, a feeling (e.g. falling in love) is false. Mature union isn't falling in love, but rather standing in love. It's a conscious choice, not a feeling. I tend to agree.
I'm going off in to left-land. Gonna end this with a modicum of coherency.
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