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I don't really relate to the ENTp description, especially in terms of erotic attitudes lmao.
However I do like the formulation and organization of groups and how it relates to PoLR.
The PoLR is tricky though because the way I see it =>
NT's and NF's in general will have a lack of sensing and therefore a need for it.
One orientation of sensing is constructive and the other destructive.
Thus a PoLR in Se is grouped with duality in which Si is involved
While a PoLR in Si is grouped with a duality in which Se is involved
The underlying point though is that intuitive types seek out sensing and sensing types seek out intuition.
This is the entire basis behind duality, if you don't agree with this premise then the formulation of duality and conflict is a useless expression of your reality.
I've read up on other systems and MBTI systems of intertype relations which completely contradict Socionics and its based on an entirely different theory on how people get along. Augusta just assumed all that intuitives need are the right type of sensing and all sensors need are the right type of intuition. Also this assumes that over time everyone is balanced out by their relations. It's hardly a system which even begins to look at the process of self-evolution and growth psychologically -- it assumes everyone's flawed by their weaker functions and that they have to pair up in little quadras named with creepy greek letters to survive or prosper.
Building erotic attitudes off of this has also annoyed me as sex many times is just about the nature of attraction... I don't have to be duals with some woman to be turned on by her sexually, and its entirely possible that my dual will do something that turns me off. Say if my dual is a man, then psychologically the relationship is good I guess based on the fact I'm getting that Si and Fe I need, but I don't want to have sex with him. So isn't a bit ridiculous to assume that if its a woman then we obviously are sexually compatible?
Not to mention the banal attitude that Se = tough and Si = soft. Hence all Gammas are tough because soft stuff hits their PoLR... give me a break. All intuitives are weak in terms of sensing, so purely in terms of Se-strength an Si-dom type would be superior to an ENTj... however somehow this shortsighted idea has taken flight. If dodos could fly....
This Se = tough has even been used to imply that sexually Se/Ni duals are some kind of sick and twisted BDSM victim-aggressor bullshit. Like an Si-dom has never watched BDSM porn because instead they are watching the carebears have an orgy of soft plushness is ridiculous.
Although admittedly I'd probably rather be Se/Ni in socionics than Ne/Si because of the even more disturbing concept of infantile-caregiver. This sounds like some disturbing fantasy of a child having sex with their nanny and has been used to characterize the view of some childlike INTj getting it on with some nanny soccer mom like ESFj, which I've always found rather disgusting and unappealing. How the fuck do you get that from merely using your Ti and Ne from time to time.
I think the theory could vastly be improved. Real eroticism to me is different, sexually I have a variety of internal fantasies that I try to understand, some things turn me on and some things which turn on others turn me off. Why am I not turned on by the same things this other person is? Why do the things I am turned on by do it for me and maybe not for others? How do these relate to my psychology. That's the kind of thing I'm interested in and I don't think socionics provides the answers, just some crap about how I'm supposed to stick my dick into a bunch of Fe/Si egos and that I'm an infantile and they are the caregiver. Gross.
I'm working on a system of erotic attitudes and archetypes based on color and mythology. It's barely gone anywhere, but I think I'd prefer that to socionics... maybe find some adaptation between the two systems. Socionics is a meh..... in this way for me, always has.
Last edited by male; 02-07-2013 at 08:50 PM.
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