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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    So in theory IPs are the best natural dancers, @Galen?

    (I love to dance btw - always have - so I'm biased and flattered by this thread hehe)


    Random SideNote: I've always been distracted by the disjointed, weird bassline in that JLo song
    As an example for IP temperament, I'd have some of Bjork's music and dancing style.




    I wonder how you can exclude performers who had dance training. I was not so much bringing in JLo as sample for EP temperament, but that specific song with fluctuating, but very open, dynamic, and free-flowing rhythm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    So in theory IPs are the best natural dancers, @Galen?

    (I love to dance btw - always have - so I'm biased and flattered by this thread hehe)

    It seems like irrationals are better dancers on average, in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elina View Post
    So in theory IPs are the best natural dancers, @Galen?

    (I love to dance btw - always have - so I'm biased and flattered by this thread hehe)
    I presume IPs would also be naturally aimless and formless, but with a lot less internal motivation to move and flagellate.

    DISCLAIMER: All types can be equally bad dancers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rosewood View Post
    As an example for IP temperament, I'd have some of Bjork's music and dancing style.
    Bjork actually didn't write that song. This rendition is a cover of a Betty Hutton classic by the same name.

    EDIT: The Hutton version is also a cover of the song's German homeland from 1948.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Bjork actually didn't write that song. This rendition is a cover of a Betty Hutton classic by the same name.

    EDIT: The Hutton version is also a cover of the song's German homeland from 1948.

    I know all this "factual background", but the composer is not German, but Austrian. And decidedly not IP temperament ..so I dunno how relevant all this is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    Bjork actually didn't write that song. This rendition is a cover of a Betty Hutton classic by the same name.

    EDIT: The Hutton version is also a cover of the song's German homeland from 1948.
    Love Bjork! That song does sound like it was made for another time though. Apparently Betty Hutton wasn't the original person to write it either.

    In 1948, [Harry] Winter had recorded Und jetzt ist es still, which was covered by Betty Hutton in 1951 and by Björk in 1995 with the title It's oh so quiet.
    I'd also think Ixxps wouldn't do as much movement and may seem sluggish but I'd imagine they're more fluid, flexible and smooth with their movements while Ixxjs probably seem more awkward because of their rigidity.

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    This is the vibe of this forum btw ... which temperament could it be? probably Ej or Ep.


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    I think my dancing is of the EP variety

    I'm actually all over the place and switching techiques all the times. I love dancing so much .

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    Her entire body is far too well in sync with itself to be IJ.

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    Ej temperament (0:50 - 2:40)


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    none of those are IJ, you know this

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    I was at a party where everybody was dancing last weekend. Due to a new year's promise I was sober, and quite likely the only sober person in the room. An over-excited drunk EIE, who unfortunately happens to be my only friend in this new town, tried to drag me along. I couldn't really say no because I was afraid of being super lame, and it would've been even more awkward to stand alone in a corner. The experience was horrendous because I was thinking about this thread all the time. No IJ should be forced to dance without a significant amount of intoxicants in their blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClownsandEntropy View Post
    Do all IJ's suffer from really bad dancing? Oh god this thread is making me so self-conscious.
    I think EII and LII are more likely to be bad dancers than LSI or ESI. LII and EII have weak sensing. I'm not sure if dancing skill is more or related, or maybe it's a bit of both.

    I know that I've always struggled with dancing. People tell me to "just get into the rhythm" or "just get the feel of it." WTF am I supposed to do with that kind of vague information? I need to put it into a nice logical system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LIIbrarian View Post
    I think EII and LII are more likely to be bad dancers than LSI or ESI. LII and EII have weak sensing. I'm not sure if dancing skill is more or related, or maybe it's a bit of both.

    I know that I've always struggled with dancing. People tell me to "just get into the rhythm" or "just get the feel of it." WTF am I supposed to do with that kind of vague information? I need to put it into a nice logical system.
    actually no. EII are one of the best dancers and among athletic dancers and dancing doesn't have anything to do with Sensing other than expenditure of energy. I'm a great dancer but I really can't do much after my dance
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Beskova description of EII

    "While most female INFjs do not enjoy sports, they are frequently drawn to dance in their youth. This occupation corresponds to their romantic, lyricist nature. They frequently give preference to ballroom or classical dances."
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I danced ballroom ever since I was 3 (my father started me off on it and I feel in love with it because I loved how warm and interactive it was WITH ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. That is what drew me in) and I think most EII are inclined to that. I don't like ballet, it's not romantic...as in with a couple, it's too much by yourself.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    one third into the song ESI-Se dancing techniques



    Kate Bush ESI-Se

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird View Post
    you are contradicting your previous post. Ballet is classical dance. Ballet not romantic...lol
    No there's no logical inconsistency. I never said that Ballet is not classical dancing. I said I don't like Ballet as it's not romantic feeling to me. It's just a lot of torturous work. Something like tango and ballroom does not result in torn up feet. I like to keep my feet healthy and well thank you.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebird View Post
    Type related or not, I'm a terrible dancer. Probably the worst I know. I've taken ballet, tap dancing, and jazz lessons and I just don't have 'the groove' and honestly I don't care that much for dancing.... I do like ballet though If I was to be a dancer, it would be for ballet.
    I don't particularly enjoy dancing either. That could be it too. It's hard to learn something you're not really motivated to learn in the first place. I do like watching dance performances though, especially ballet. I watch it, and just think to myself WOW! How does anyone do that?
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    Mr. White - some kind of Ij, possibly LII @5min


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    @silke Could be. He looks like he's trying to loosen up and have fun but still kind of rigid in his body movements and not totally spontaneous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    @silke Could be. He looks like he's trying to loosen up and have fun but still kind of rigid in his body movements and not totally spontaneous.
    That's exactly the impression that I got from the video. He still seems to have a lot of fun in that vid even if he can't completely loosen up to the dance and the music.

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    Here's my IJ dance:


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    As hilarious as this thread is to me as a dancer, I need to be fair:

    IJ (ESI-Fi):



    EJ (EIE-Fe):

    The short one with the studded cap who jumps over the other dancer at 0:29:



    He is always the first one to get the choreography (made by an ESI, the one with the green cap) and is one of the top two in execution.

    But then we have this...

    IJ (ESI-Fi):



    EJ (EIE-Fe):



    It seems like they're either great or awful, no in between

    I was lucky I was born talented in this area, because I really wouldn't have the guts to dance in public otherwise. Respect to those who know they suck and don't give a f***
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