My logic is stronger than yours, I just don't care for white logic. Your pictures, for example, weren't accurate. Whereas, for you, you enjoy being viewed as having good reasoning, for me, it does nothing of value, so when I know logic is faulty, I'm most likely just going to ignore it.Originally Posted by Aylen
I don't see him fitting in a beta atmosphere and attempting to influence the general emotional atmosphere (or empathize like ENFJ) without annoying a lot of people. He doesn't particularly annoy me until he makes insensitive comments about other forum member's gender, sexual preferences or other stuff that isn't his business. I don't really care what he says or thinks about me since I know he has his own motives for doing it. He wants to get a reaction and I am happy to oblige him or anyone else when they are projecting their beliefs on me.
He thinks he has some kind of special wisdom to impart on others but he is lacking broad awareness. Everything is filtered through his own feelings and desires but he thinks he can read me accurately.Unless he only wants to try and irritate me for some reason. It isn't working if that is why. If duality is really a thing then my dual is SLE and I know how to give it right back.
Maybe he can get a sense of something but his interpretation is faulty when it comes to me. He has all kinds of narrow stereotypical beliefs about types that he created in his own head and doesn't go by the socionics guide book (he is a heretic!). Maybe that is what trips you up. I believe him when he claims to be an Fi ego because his logic is too weak to be any logical type, unless he is faking that too. The only other type to consider is Si but that seems off.
His Fe is not genuine in the way ENFJ can be . If anything it would be demonstrative but if he says he is an introvert, I will take his word for it. I am not going to retype him because he is not politically correct.
You didn't answer me when I asked you what Fi (or Fe) is so I am going to show you some things I believe it is. I have 4d Fe and Fi so I use both. Sometimes to the point that certain forum members thought I was EII because they can't differentiate demonstrative Fi .
I know it is a lot to translate but perhaps you can bear with me long enough to read through this and give your opinion? You do not seem to understand Fi or Fe from what I have seen but that is because you don't articulate your idea of what it is. I think it is normal for Logical STs to have problems discerning.
If the simplified description I quoted in the spoiler didn't help here are the socionics descriptions.
You say that I don't read people well, and can't read you, but I can and did, which is why I used the thread as an opportunity to extinguish SLE. I'm not one, so I'm not going to keep going into that mode.
Do I make up types or socionics? Nope. There's just varying schools of thought on the matter. The original one I referenced is DarkAngelFireWolf69, which states that Delta is the most mature Quadra of the four, then Gamma, then Beta, then Alpha. Could I source it? Yup. Do I particularly care enough to do so? Nope, because I don't value Se.
Also, for the record, Projection is Ne/Ti. Projection is basically a question that comes in the form of a statement. You get a reply to it, and you can judge how far off it is. Give a few more, and you can try and hone in on the central reality. Ne/Fi, on the other hand, is an open-ended question methodology, similar to the typical "good guy" counselors, who really just posit questions for the counseled to find their own way.
Would you have preferred that I kept up the friendly ways and wasted more of your time? Because I'm not Beta. Your other thread sparked me to cut the line, as it seemed cruel to keep faking.
Classifications are Ti. It is orthogonal to Fi. As William discerned, there is no clear classification. I am always faking. And I always have a reason.
You just seemed drunk to me when you started on male vulnerability and taking care of each other. You think I am not aware men and women can both show vulnerability and protect each other?
I was in a mood to banter. You just happened to be around and went along with it. Did I take anything you said seriously? Probably not as you have claimed to be a pretender before. That was not an SLE imitation so I am not sure what you claim to have extinguished. You are not making sense here.
I am not going to argue whose logic is stronger since it is relative in this case.
In what way would my images not be accurate when the choice to post them was opportunistic, if anything, but you couldn't read that. I clearly said "bite me" by the one image that you interpreted as me "wanting head". You could have read that as "leave me alone" but you didn't. I can't help it if you can't read between the lines and make out my symbolism. If you knew how to read me you would know that. You keep projecting something onto me that is incorrect.
Naming your sources is not Se. It could be Te. Do I trust it over myself, probably not but when you want to make yourself clear then it is prudent.
Projection in the psychological sense can be done by anyone. You did not read anything I said well.
LOL You weren't wasting my time. I was up and no one was around on skype so was messing around on the forum. I have no clue what you mean about my other thread and it would be cruel to keep faking. Cruel how? Did my other thread have anything to do with you? I had nothing invested in this interaction. I am more dynamic than that. I know you like to troll but what the hell are you talking about???Would you have preferred that I kept up the friendly ways and wasted more of your time? Because I'm not Beta. Your other thread sparked me to cut the line, as it seemed cruel to keep faking.
It is not my fault that sol the LSE rejects you as a dual so don't take it out on me.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Yeah, this is another "not even gonna bother" case. Have fun with the anorexia and odd nationality and child abuse and looking for a bf on an internet forum and poorly rationalizing obvious faults, though. I'm sure it will make you totally not seem like a waste of life. And good luck with the whole maturity thing, maybe one day you'll be half of what your parents are.You just seemed drunk to me when you started on male vulnerability and taking care of each other. You think I am not aware men and women can both show vulnerability and protect each other?
I was in a mood to banter. You just happened to be around and went along with it. Did I take anything you said seriously? Probably not as you have claimed to be a pretender before. That was not an SLE imitation so I am not sure what you claim to have extinguished. You are not making sense here.
I am not going to argue whose logic is stronger since it is relative in this case.
In what way would my images not be accurate when the choice to post them was opportunistic, if anything, but you couldn't read that. I clearly said "bite me" by the one image that you interpreted as me "wanting head". You could have read that as "leave me alone" but you didn't. I can't help it if you can't read between the lines and make out my symbolism. If you knew how to read me you would know that. You keep projecting something onto me that is incorrect.
Naming your sources is not Se. It could be Te. Do I trust it over myself, probably not but when you want to make yourself clear then it is prudent.
Projection in the psychological sense can be done by anyone. You did not read anything I said well.
LOL You weren't wasting my time. I was up and no one was around on skype so was messing around on the forum. I have no clue what you mean about my other thread and it would be cruel to keep faking. Cruel how? Did my other thread have anything to do with you? I had nothing invested in this interaction. I am more dynamic than that. I know you like to troll but what the hell are you talking about???
It is not my fault that sol the LSE rejects you as a dual so don't take it out on me.
You are really creepy with this and somehow manage to come off racist in the process even though I am white. I am not anorexic. lol I went through something and it is over. I don't dwell on the negatives but you like to use them against people. Why would you think I am looking for a boyfriend on the internet? I have said over and over I don't look. How do you know I don't have a bf already? You don't. I give anecdotes from my life. Sometimes out of chronological order. It is meant to share my experience so you can conclude what you want from it but you are missing vital information.
I have my own home, my own car and my own money. I am happy and in a stable environment. Stop being so creepy. :/
You make a fine example of EII. Have a few more drinks. I just hope no one misunderstands your reaction to me and thinks we had any kind of interactions outside this forum. You sound bitter toward me for no reason. You are bundle of racist, sexist and homophobic assumptions. Good luck with that.
I am sorry if I somehow hurt your feeling but please leave me alone.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
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