INTP or INFP?

[Korpsy Knievel]

I've taken the myers-briggs test about 5 times already and have gotten different results, the latest being INTP after tons of tweaking and thinking, but have went back and forth between INTP and INFP and it is a very close call. But I think a lot(overthink things through/contemplate a lot) leading me to lean towards a T a little more than an F, although I have some F characteristics. The 3 questions that seemed to be the tipping point between an F and a T was "You are strongly touched by stories about people's troubles" which really was in the middle for me; I can get moved slightly if it's something I think is really fucked up, but then again, people tend to exaggerate about their issues sometimes which can annoy me, so sometimes I just brush it off. Then there was about me sympathizing with other people, it was worded as "you tend to sympathize" which isn't always the case, sometimes I can't relate to how someone is feeling because of my differing from the norm persona, then again, other times I can, so I'd say I'm in the middle there as well. The interesting thing though is that there was a similar question asking if I empathized with other people's concerns, or from what I can comprehend, is basically understanding and feeling concern or sadness to someone's issues (something psychologists are good at? just an ametur perception) which I am actually somewhat decent at. The last one was my emotions affecting my actions, which is usually the case unless I push myself, in which sometimes I have no choice. But overall, I would lean towards that being a yes, that my emotions affect my short term actions, but not long term.

I'm kind of a noob when it comes to this personality type stuff, I just got into it. But here's a little about me:

I overthink everything, and am always looking for answers and solutions.
I can percieve how certain things may develop over time.
I am anti generic/conventional, and differ from the norm in terms of feeling and insight.
I can get emotionally attached to people I admire easily.
I am slightly scatterbrained (could be fueled by ADHD/anxiety)
I love to experiment with my activities and interests (like music and cooking) I am reserved in general, with minor spurts of extraversion.
I have a crude and at times offensive sense of humor, yet trying to develop it into a more insightful and intiuitive sense of humor (think Louis C.K, George Carlin)
Can describe and percieve emotions and feelings well, and can sympathize well, if I can relate to them. If someone is upset over something that I don't think is really a big deal, I can't relate, therefore I can't sympathize.
Think society is superficial, shallow, and lacks logic and rationale. Sometimes, while respecting it, can argue or question someone's opinion if I am unsure or disagree.
Think knowledge is power, and feel like I have to get smarter in order to be more successful and comfortable with myself.
Interested in philosophy and psychology, and hope to pursue a career in that field in the future.
Most things seem relative to me (e.g. better late then never)
Need to get the experience or visual feel of something in order to fully understand it (this applies to hands on skills usually)
Enjoy having a wide circle of aquaintances, but for the sake of observing them to gain knowledge in my insight for how I feel about society.
Not very motivated at the moment, due to depression and anxiety.
Have trouble concentrating, mainly due to depression and anxiety.
Self conscious.
Daydream a lot about certain scenarios, and replay certain events in my head over the course of my life occasionally.
Write everything I think about myself and my feelings down to keep track of my well being.
I'm slowly becoming more of an emotional person as the years go on (I actually choked up for the first time in public, a couple days ago)
While it isn't important for me, I do enjoy the idea of fitting in to a group.
I am very mellow and laid back.
I am only minorly enthusiastic, its usually only if its something concerning or interests me.
I joke around a lot and am sarcastic.
Thinking and contemplating while listening to music gives me immense pleasure, especially during a car ride; I could ride in a car listening to music for a very long time and not get bored.
Hands on activities and fast paced discussions make me anxious, and I'm not really the biggest fan of small talk, even though I don't mind it.
I love independent activities like music and cooking where I can contemplate new ideas and experiment, it also acts as a stress reliever.
I sometimes dictate how I feel.
I tend to poke fun at certain morals sometimes, especially when it comes to relationships.
I dislike many people my age, especially more-extraverted types that conclude and judge quickly based off of image, without any rational logic. (Like for example, an E type judging anyone based off of the music they listen to, or what they do for a living)
I am sometimes inclined, if someone is making themself sound really stupid and narcissistic, to make an extreme comment (for example, if someone says something really stupid to me, I might to tell them to kill themself, even though I don't believe suicide is right)
I usually make up my mind based on if something makes sense to me, but try to apply a certain amount of logic.
Usually ask others for insight if I'm not sure about something, but not always trusting of it and can question their insight.

Viewpoints on certain things:

I think society makes our decisions based on how we feel as a whole instead of logic, and I think that's why we have so many issues. Relationships tend to fail due to focusing on feelings more than logic, since the whole "power" thing come into play here. Some people argue their points based on how they feel a lot and when a better logic based standpoint is proved to them, they get arrogant by their feelings and still stand by their opinion.

Politics are bullshit. It's a game of who has more power, instead of what really is right, or a balanced decision.

I won't even bother with religion. I think religious people take their beliefs too seriously, and focus on them instead of actually focusing on their lives and well being.
(I don't know a lot about religion and politics though, so I am open to gain more knowledge and improve my opinion.)

I think people need to poke fun at certain things more instead of taking things too seriously. It's a fucked up world, laugh at it more. (unless you want to focus on improving it, then you should take it more seriously but not TOO seriously) But we need more laughter.

People should view the glass half empty more, to see what they can improve. People can be too pompous in their half full views, and think they are fine the way they are, therefore, become rigid.

Life should be peaceful, but have polite conflict to spice things up, minus the arrogance, so we can solve problems easier.
^Does this make sense? It's still a developing thought.

People need to stop crying over spilled milk, if you know what I mean (i.e. girls dwelling over how one guy may not like them or how they are not accepted, while they are allowed to be dissapointed, they should find their flaws, focus on improving them or find hobbies to distract themselves from the disappointment while making their well being more interesting)

People need to be more open minded and less defensive when it comes to music, even though there are some real disgraces to music out there. People also shouldn't judge a well being based on the type of music they listen to. That is one of the most irrational things to do, in my opinion.

People shouldn't take things like sex so seriously, it's actually a stress reliever and it makes you feel better. However, sex can be emotionally confusing if the age gap is too wide and immaturity comes into play (i.e a 17 year old having sex with a 11 year old, or whatever.)

Also, I took the mypersonality test, and got a more confident INTP result:

53% introverted
79% intuition
79% thinking
68% perceiving

Cognitive quiz results:

Edit: I retook the Jung cognitive functions test:

Introverted Intuition (Ni) ||||||||||||||||||||||| 10.925
Introverted Thinking (Ti) ||||||||||||||||||||| 9.69
Extroverted Intuition (Ne) |||||||||||||||| 7.475
Introverted Sensation (Si) ||||||||||||||| 6.77
Extroverted Thinking (Te) ||||||||||||| 5.93
Introverted Feeling (Fi) |||||||||| 4.17
Extroverted Sensation (Se) ||||||||| 3.57
Extroverted Feeling (Fe) |||||||| 3.22

Your Introverted Intuition (Ni) is very developed.
Your Introverted Thinking (Ti) is very developed.
Your Extroverted Intuition (Ne) is moderate.
Your Introverted Sensation (Si) is moderate.
Your Extroverted Thinking (Te) is moderate.
Your Introverted Feeling (Fi) is moderate.
Your Extroverted Sensation (Se) is low.
Your Extroverted Feeling (Fe) is low.


First couple times I took it, 1st possibility was INTP but that has leaned toward a J with a 2nd possibility of INTP.



Thoughts? (I know you likely won't read all of it, for the TLDR factor)

Hmmm...

Just for fun, try these:

http://sociotype.com/tests/ Extended test
http://www.mizami.nl/public_html/questionnaire

[louiesgonnadie]

People, sniffing. Music, cooking, dogs...I guess.

KNOWLEDGE! Cannot if don't but do if do.

Enjoy gaining mind better life better because knowledge because obviously: no limit.

I wouldn't.

Skull soul is close enough to love travel.

What? FOR AYN!!!

Crazy boring thoughts about everything.

Future pasting the I.

UNREMEMBERED SYSTEMS????

Kindergarten devil screams "HI!"

Thinking away from humans inside a room outside a box.

Exterior non-Legos.

Goodnight.

Your summarization of my mumblings in my 3 movies made my day.

Are you still going with IEI? (INFp)

[Scapegrace]

Doctor Korpsy will be with you momentarily. In the interm please complete these brief questionnaires:


http://sociotype.com/tests/
http://www.mizami.nl/public_html/questionnaire

[louiesgonnadie]

Doctor Korpsy will be with you momentarily. In the interm please complete these brief questionnaires:


http://sociotype.com/tests/
http://www.mizami.nl/public_html/questionnaire

Results:

http://sociotype.com/tests/ LII
http://www.mizami.nl/public_html/questionnaire IEI

I'm kinda thirsty waiting, can I get a drink?

[Korpsy Knievel]

Thanks for keeping him trapped in the office, biomed sorceress.

PATIENT LOUIES, CLIMB ABOARD THE EXAMINING TABLE AND FIXATE YOUR OCULARS UPON THE FOLLOWING TWO MEDIA IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT BATTERY OF INTERROGATION:

A:

B:

1.A) TYPE A BUNCH OF STUFF ABOUT BOTH A AND B.

1.B) PUNCH YOURSELF IN THE FACE EACH TIME YOUR ANSWERS TO 1.A SOUND LIKE THEY WERE SCAVENGED AND CLUNKED TOGETHER FROM TYPOLOGY TESTS. YOUR VISION WILL BE RESTORED.

2) ???

3) PUNCH YOURSELF IN THE FACE EACH TIME YOU CONFUSE, CONFOUND, CONFLATE, OR DIRECTLY CORRELATE THE MENTAL QUALITIES OF INTROVERSION AND EXTRAVERSION WITH BEHAVIORALLY TENDING TOWARD SOCIAL DIS(ENGAGEMENT). THIS STEP WILL SAVE SEVERAL HEADACHES.

4) TAKE TWO ENNEAGRAM TESTS OF YOUR CHOOSING AND THEN PLACE YOUR SAMPLES IN THE WINDOW.

5.A) READ THE SOCIONICS MATERIAL I ALREADY RECOMMENDED AND LINKED. CONTINUE AS EXISTENTIAL DILEMMAS SEEM AMELIORABLE THROUGH THE SELF-BAMBOOZLEMENT OF SPECULATION ON THE SPECIATION OF ESOTERIC BODIES OR UNTIL SUCH TIME AS YOU ARE FULLY BRAINWASHED BY THIS HERE SOVIET ANSWER TO POST-EDWARDIAN NEUROLOGY IN THE SPHERE OF COLD WAR, SPACE-AGE HUMBUG.

5.B) STUDY JUNG WITH ABSURD AND ALCHEMY WITH ATH.

6) POST IN REGULAR THREADS LIKE A HUMAN BEING MIGHT.

Results:

http://sociotype.com/tests/ LII
http://www.mizami.nl/public_html/questionnaire IEI

I'm kinda thirsty waiting, can I get a drink?

Turn your head and cough up those test result numbers first. They've gotta go in the cube so we can turn it around until it settles.

[Korpsy Knievel]

Are you still going with IEI? (INFp)

With analysis still in progress your general prognosis remains hazy, though there is good news: http://mentalfloss.com/article/33520...-going-extinct

[Psyhence]

Hi i'm a non expert, which opinion you should be considering, specially if you can't handle the nomenclature of socionics properly.

your type could be LII, after your videos (actually just looked at the first one).

Seems to me that you are more of an asker then a declarer. More preocupied for hearing the external opinion and keeping the dialogue as an exchange; more concerned with finding the "right answer" then answering.

Personal reflection: For an ILI it's not about what people asked you about, but what you need/ want them to know (needs verification/ consensus).

An irrational, specially one like ILI, knows to know, and knows not to. Meaning there is a clear understanding that there are no priviledged observers, and thus the only thing that is for certain is the universal principle of mediocrity.

I noticed your smile seems asymmetrical on your right side of your face, like the outward demonstration was more important then what you actually are feeling. You did this at least trice on that first video.

Also rationals in socionics and in MBTI are not the same, because the briggs were somewhat retarded and wanted to make "science" complicated, or because they were raped by monkeys in the brains, or both.

Can't seem to understand how an irrational P would hate irrationality > rationality and at the same time love it. (maybe I can't understand love/hate as well). But this would make you either rational, or one hell of a liar. Or maybe you just didn't know that not only T is rational but also F. Or maybe you thought it would be rational for a T user to consider "irrationality" antagonical, and then when indirectly speaking of irrational behaviours you like, failed to notice the contradiction.

One last thing, you might preffer not describing yourself so evidently through cognitive functions/ type descriptions, because this takes any credibility of what you are exposing about yourself away. Makes the bias more probable.

[mikemex]

From what you write you seem LII. I tend to type by impressions but if you want more explicit arguments:

1) When interacting with others you're concerned with "sympathizing" which puts you in the side of the merry types. (Alphas and Betas)
2) Overall, the way you describe yourself sounds like an infantile. (Alpha NT)
3) You seem introverted (LII).

The confusion you have is because as an LII you have Fi role and that makes you to try to project an image of being ethical (EII). But I'm pretty sure from your long exposition that you're not.

Something that is not type related is that you have obsessive tendencies. Can be positive or negative depending on what you do. It is likely what is causing you the depression and anxiety (you hold on to things too much). Since you're not ethical, obsessing over your personal life is unlikely to be a good idea. I'd focus that obsessitivity toward something more objective such as learning and creative stuff. That should bring you balance.