Do it, korpsey, you said you like challenges, don't you?
Endlessly repeating a statement isn't an argument, it's a chanted mantra that's used to move the speaker into a trance. In other words it's useful for drowning out the world around you and becoming immersed in your own.
Now list the members of my team.
Then show your evidence instead of just jabbering on and on about it.
But you keep banging your gums about beta quadra behavior to rope everyone into a category convenient to your Big Lie campaign. So this is another bratty deception.
But you just said the group dynamics are meaningless. What an incoherent mess you're making.
This may or may not be true since you're speaking for the both of you, not to mention that your pants are on fire. But we'll find out if we find out.
Heed your own advice.
Would you prefer we go to PM so you can post those out of context?
So noted. Also for the record, allow me to point out in all extremely grave internet seriousness that duality is no assurance of mutual wonderfulness. I can think of a few people I regard as my duals who I'd rather not be around at all.
The octopus abortions continue
k0rpsy.
That is all
And to think I paid for the tickets, but just to pour more petrol into fire, tribe has spoken, Jim. There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee...that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me...you can't get fooled again, which means to pull out a Mountain Dewism Invisible Jim stands for Ij temperament.
Don't insult Koopa Kingdom, we rule for eternity. As for KKK, well, bunch of mice thinking they're dragons, especially in the North. Anyhow, what Pa3z did there, was ironic, that is, he let you know, you're not KKK.
So Jim, you're going to accept that you're LSI?
Now upload the spreadsheet as requested before. Refusal makes it obvious that you've cooked the numbers to create false impressions and are just running on empty propaganda.
What's also of note is that you're simultaneously using Maritsa as a human shield and also stabbing her in the back by using her as a benchmark of shitty and shittier analysis. You already tried hiding behind siuntal and Eliza, so your regular recourse to hostage-taking is a persistent and prominent pattern.
This is a waste of time, seriously, everyone is of opinion you're LSI, Jim, even your duals, I think. Former duals, I mean. You can be identicals with squark now and duals with CONFIMED. What's wrong?
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
I wasn't going to respond in this thread, but gah. No. It is not irrelevant. You cannot quote someone making a joke and say that they were serious and actually believe what they said in the joke - that's just . . . ridiculous. Context matters man. A person could probably take random words that you've typed in various places and put them together to say some rather far-fetched things, and you can't deny you said them, the words are there - but they'd be completely out of context, and not at all communicating what you intended.
Why does this even have to be explained??
No.This is a waste of time, seriously, everyone is of opinion you're LSI, Jim, even your duals, I think. Former duals, I mean. You can be identicals with squark now and duals with CONFIMED. What's wrong?
Oh wait... is this thread about Jim's type? I thought it was just another platform for the fighting.
He's ILI in my opinion. You want i should elaborate? I can... but it does mean i will have to organize my thoughts into some form of coherent output that will make sense for other people when reading ....and even then it might not.
Now this is a story all about how, my type got changed, turned upside down. Just wait for a minute and watch chatbox right there, & I'll tell how Gem became the moderator with blue hair.
In typology central friended and praised, on the picture thread was where she spent most her days. Chilling out, selfies, relaxing all cool, And all typing some people and getting them schooled.
When a couple of girls who were up to no good, Started annoying her & her friends in the forumhood, She got in one little flame war & got pissed off & said 'I'm moving in with that exboyfriend in the forum with the socionics toffs.
So Gem pulls up to the forum for a year without being a hater, And yells to typocentral 'Yo creeps! Smell Ya later', Became a mod in her kingdom she was finally there, To sit on her throne as the mod with blue hair.
InvisibruJim
You are spoiling my fun here by talking socionics theory Ashton. I was still enjoying the dancing.
The fundamental difference between rational and irrational information elements is not built into the Reinin model. Also, it has no concept of functional ordering. If you use Renin without referring back to Model A you can get into a pickle.
It model A it is recognized that Pi first seeks convergence by eliminating inconsistencies as a first priority and then expresses the result concisely.
But either way, you can't properly differentiate LII/ILI/SLI/LSI without considering the ethics of the situation which will provide a generally clear split, then you for quadra/club together both as confirmation and as a second criterion.
Statisticians like to joke that it takes three data points to make a trend. Thanks for providing the third:
Sehr interessant. Mommy casts a great shadow over little Jim, rendering him invisible in the darkness. Excerpted from Helen Palmer:
"Sixes lost faith in authorities when they were young. They remember being afraid of those who had power over them, of being unable to act on their own behalf. Those memories have carried over into adult life as a suspiciousness of other people's motives; Sixes try to ease their insecurity by seeking either a strong protector or by going against authority in the Devils' Advocate stand."
And look how you've pumped me up to be some great cult leader that you in your heroic bravery are taking down, screaming paranoid fabrications all the while about conspirators plotting in concert against you. Is that how your mommy was too? Odd.
From Enneagram Institute, a portrait of your antics since your typing thread went other than you hoped:
Level 5: To resist having more demands made on them, [Sixes] react against others passive-aggressively. Become evasive, indecisive, cautious, procrastinating, and ambivalent. Are highly reactive, anxious, and negative, giving contradictory, "mixed signals." Internal confusion makes them react unpredictably.
Level 6: To compensate for insecurities, they become sarcastic and belligerent, blaming others for their problems, taking a tough stance toward "outsiders." Highly reactive and defensive, dividing people into friends and enemies, while looking for threats to their own security. Authoritarian while fearful of authority, highly suspicious, yet, conspiratorial, and fear-instilling to silence their own fears.
You're pretty close to Level 7, which is rather unhealthy. Either way, it's pretty obvious you're a counterphobic six:
“Lost” essential quality: Faith in self, others and the universe.
Compensating belief: The world is dangerous, threatening. People can’t be trusted. You must seek or defy security, avoid or face danger.
Attention/coping strategy: Becoming vigilant, questioning or doubting. Scanning for what can go wrong. Seeking certainty either by defying security and facing danger (the counter-phobic style) or by seeking security and avoiding danger (the phobic style).
Trap: Seeking certainty for which there is never enough proof.
Driving energy: Fear associated with all the possible dangers or hazards.
Avoidance: Becoming helpless and defenseless, avoided either by aligning with authority (the phobic style) or by defying it (the counter-phobic style).
Strengths: Spotting hazards, heightened intuition, loyalty, thoughtfulness.
Paradox: Seeking too much certainty in an uncertain world creates more uncertainty and anxiety.
Path of development:
Accept insecurity as part of life
Develop inner faith in self, others and the world
Recognize that both flight and fight are reactions to fear
Observe fear and calm it
Move ahead in spite of fear
Ultimate task: Reclaiming trust in yourself, others and the world, and living comfortably with uncertainty.
http://www.enneagramworldwide.com/ex...ram-type-6.php
Also, from LifeExplore:
Tension between needing to be seen and withdrawing for protection. Might act arrogant or cryptic or cynical when afraid. When phobic, can be diplomatic and say things without saying them. Entranced counterphobics are either cool and loners or argumentative, tending towards violence. Can brood over injustices to them, entertain conspiracy theories, spend time alone building cases. Paranoia in private. May like secretive behind-the-scenes group activity. Sneaky vengeance, passive/aggressive toward others, self-attacking and self-destructive at home.
Plus projecting the underlined onto others to dissociate yourself from your own emotional and moral filth.
No worries there, I've got you more than covered, with further analysis to come unless you start scrubbing your posts. I was just hoping you'd be man enough to actually show your work rather than repeating conclusions. That is, unless you prefer to remain being seen as a Result type rather than Process, not to mention a fake.
I'm a bit pressed for time at the moment but I look forward to resuming this later, comparing posts with data freely available at wikisocion, assuming that no spoilsports call the cops. You're invited to present your own evidence-based case in the meantime.
You talk too much and with too much irrelevant content. The topic of the thread is 'k0rpsys typing of forum members'.
It's like some kind of chronic stupidity where you can't reach the fucking point.
You... just gotta.... shake.... it.... out.
A few years ago I had a discussion with Helen, she thought I was 5w6, I stated that I preferred 6w5. I'm cool with that; so I don't really care about today's k0rpsy psychobabble regarding enneagram.
I'm waiting; it's not much of a threat because I just went to the data and used it.
You need to understand the basis of the theory and it's limitations, talk to Olga, or Vlad or Jadae even. Infact even check wikisocion which says the same thing I do (almost word for word):
Originally Posted by wikisocionEffectively it is argued that the Renin dichotomies have an empirical basis from the original paper and therefore that correlation does not imply causation.Originally Posted by wikisocion
Last edited by InvisibleJim; 11-29-2012 at 11:38 PM.
Another point for you being -ignoring. Also for your inability to actually respond to anything with more than spastic hand waving.
Finally, you've agreed to something, but only because you don't think it jeopardizes your precarious perch.
Yet you've repeatedly refused to upload the spreadsheet so the numbers and the math can be examined. Anyone can make a graph with fake data that produces the desired appearance. Not to mention that there are three sorts of lies: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Post it up.
More inclined to solve problems in systems of things and processes.
"This glass is half-empty", "We need $62,000 for that project"
Usually more reprimanding than complimenting.
Socially and intellectually more mistrusting.
Explains what things are (irrationals) or should be (rationals).
*shrug* 4/5 negativist seems pretty clear to me, it doesn't mean I think that the negativist dichotomy means anything; but you need to understand the origin of the theory to understand the limitation of me saying that.
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post919596
Last edited by InvisibleJim; 11-30-2012 at 12:03 AM.
Giggity giggity, exactly 5/6 points which almost match the other points except they appear more 'literative' and authourative which serves to add confusion instead of concise accuracy.
Is this is where you state 1/5 or 1/6 is overwhelming evidence in favour of positivism? I'm going to save you a reply by stating that out loud but you I get the impression that you aren't going to take the hint.
p.s. I did read the article but I found it alarmingly dangerous that it did not come appropriately caveated. That is much more dangerous than me pissing about with people in a thread for shits and giggles with a bit of a moral crusade on the side if people really are forgetting all of the basis of the ideas and theories of socionics because they have stopped thinking. It probably explains a few things about what goes on around here. I recommend you correct it in due course to match best practice because I can't be arsed.
Clearly I have a lot to say on this subject.
(Looks that way. What with all the fake badasses.)
In the spirt of Lord Jim.
"[Scapegrace,] I don't know how anyone can stand such a sinister and mean individual as you." - Maritsa Darmandzhyan
Brought to you by socionix.com
What? Ok first of all, one isolated incident of anything doesn't disprove k0rpsy's capability, especially seeing as he has proven himself an accurate typer in various other instances.
And no I am not going to go fetch you proof, I really don't give a shit what you think of k0rp, but I also don't care to see you draw false conclusions.
Ok I'm not sure what facts or which quote you're talking about, clearly something other than what I was referencing in my post so I'm kind of lost here.Team k0rpsy wanted a quote and they got it.
The facts speak for themselves; I couldn't care less for the interpersonal dynamics.
Of course I was really just enjoying getting the team out in force
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I would like to see these other instances. This thread is pretty similar to how he goes about typing in other cases I've seen him in - primarily relying on conjecture (assumptions of peoples motivations, plans, etc), half-assed attempts at IE correlations, and strained comparisons to other forum members (I.E. ESC and InvisibleJim). There's nothing in this thread for instance that he has pointed out that cements Jim as LII, he marks behaviors and responses as 'stereotypically blah blah' and uses that as evidence for someone's type which is a fundamentally flawed way of typing. He places little to no emphasis on ascertaining where someone's cognitive focus lies, just on what IE's he see's as being expressed which (going hand in hand with his emotional instability and sensitivity) make it so that he's highly prone to make justifications for people's types based on a whim.
People agreeing with him comes from the simple fact that this forum has become incestuous as far as opinions go, people will discuss with each other their opinions in chats and form consensus based on little examination and 'similar impressions' which don't actually mean jack shit since, like this thread is an example of, usually does not follow logically or substantially. he isn't the only one doing this, but I'm rather surprised you regard him in particular with any sort of respect in this matter.
For the record, I think both invisible jim and korpsey are little bitches. I agree that jim is more likely Fe/Ti than Fi/Te but for different reasons, and regard korpsy's 'examination' in this thread as a template of what this forum should strive to avoid - not only in terms of typing people, but in terms of generally understanding another person.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not
True that. I'm the littlest bitch, I love my bitching; hence me winding up k0rpsy and friends.
On another note it would help if the "?star?" typologists identify the process through which they type people. There should be something resembling a standard process (or a few) and acceptable error with appropriate caveats. Flowcharts would help significantly. I mean come on, this forum has been around for long enough for that knowledge to exist. I suspect that sort of discussion is not in the interest of certain individuals.
Actually, there you go: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...756#post919756
Well, Delta quadra is like a story that always stays fresh no matter how old it gets, and one wants more of it, just like with old wine and women, so I understand your sentiments perfectly, COMFINED.
I think I have always been, first self-typed SLI, skimming through Socionics material before registering on here, so yes.
Pretty please...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...
But, for a certainty, back then,
We loved so many, yet hated so much,
We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...
Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
Whilst our laughter echoed,
Under cerulean skies...