Well done, American voters! Sanity prevails.
Well done, American voters! Sanity prevails.
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
So long as we never, ever get a mormon president!!
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
yeah no kidding
*takes a loooong breath, relaxes and passes out*
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I was raised in the mormon church. I vaguely remember something about 'in the future' (this was about 30 years ago), there will be a registration, and people who are members will receive the kingdom, and those who aren't would be caste out. Now, the memory is from about 30 years ago, but I do remember the image of something akin to a police state, and fearing removing my name from their list of those who've been baptized into their church.
Oh, and no, this was not in reference to some afterlife thing. It was most definitely referencing earthly life.
IEE 649 sx/sp cp
The welfare-warfare state wins again.
What a fucking surprise.
The end is nigh
yaaay
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
Whether Romney or Obama the result is the same. People flashing their team colors, and thinking there's a difference, and the abysmally small percentage of 3rd party votes tells me that people are morons. I live in a nation of idiots. More than 95% of the people voting today want everything to stay the same, they want to stay locked into the game of red and blue, my team against yours, and THEY DONT WANT TO THINK. They want to be told what to do, they want to believe they have no real choices, they want to keep the status quo . . . and they're happy as long as their team wins. More than 95% of people who voted today love the chains they're in, and want to wrap them tighter around themselves and others. They don't want freedom. They don't want choices. They don't want responsibility, they buy what they're fed, and never look to see what's in it. I don't support a 3rd party. I don't support any parties. I just want people to think and make real choices, but they're all too chicken shit that "the other team will win" that they won't do it. Disappointing, but not surprising.
Are you trying to be ironic? A real choice is an informed choice that matches your own best interests, and is aligned with your values, not made out of emotion and fear, but based on reason. If a person's primary reason for choosing something is fear of something else then they're not making a choice at all- they're letting themselves be bullied and manipulated. People have vague notions that sound good "Romney is for limited government" or last election a big one was "Obama is the anti-war candidate" but they don't look at the reality, and see that those excuses and "reasons" are giant piles of shit, absolutely not true at all. The truth is that people are voting on emotion, not thinking, and not making truly informed choices.
I know that the political compass is not the ultimate tool to categorize the political belief of the people and its survey might also be questionable, but I'm prone to believe that there is indeed not so much difference between both (main) candidates.
So while both men stand for different measures they promise to take, they are virtually identical from a philosophical point of view.
Most europeans are also like this. We just have a few more team colours and a little less of a show.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
A drone strike in every pot, an NDAA detention for every child.
OBAMA WAS ALL LIKE COOL BLACK GUY I CAN RELATE TO AND ROMNEY WAS THIS MEAN DAD I KNEW IN CHURCH ONCE.
AND DEY ARE SO DIFFERENT. ONE IS A CORPORATE SHILL AND TEH OTHER IS A RELIGIOUS CORPORATE SHILL.
SANITY WINS 'MURICA. SANITY WINS.
The end is nigh
Obamacare will kick in, kids can stay on parents' healthcare plan, women will retain the right to decide over having an abortion, there is hope for gay marriage to come through, credit card companies can't screw me over like they used to, students have better access to loans, undocumented youth have a chance to get citizenship, I saved almost $4000 in taxes under Obama, etc. etc.
I don't understand how you can say that it's all the same. All this philosophical talk about bad government does not matter much when you go about your daily life and try to make a living. How many of you who say it's all the same actually DO make a living on your own or are supporting a family?
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
capitalism will disappear over the next few decades, government spending will increase
they can stay on their parents healthcare plan FOREVER! or used socialized medicine where the doctors have no incentive to perform GOOD work.kids can stay on parents' healthcare plan,
YES! Now all you have to do is drop all personal financial responsibility you once had!credit card companies can't screw me over like they used to,
awesome! more money to spend on people who don't deserve it!students have better access to loans,
Perfect<------------------------------------------------------------------------------>Loops and Tings
Ambivert / Aggressor / Trailblazer / Nomad / Alpha Caretaker / Free Spirit / Kevlar Speed Demon / Ninja
I highly doubt that capitalism will disappear.capitalism will disappear over the next few decades, government spending will increase
They cannot stay on their parents' plan forever and Obamacare does not implement socialized medicine.they can stay on their parents healthcare plan FOREVER! or used socialized medicine where the doctors have no incentive to perform GOOD work.
Do you even know what has changed with regards to credit card companies?YES! Now all you have to do is drop all personal financial responsibility you once had!
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Last edited by ragnar; 11-09-2012 at 02:44 PM. Reason: clarity,grammar
Greetings, ragnar
ILI knowledge-seeker
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
Yeah, let's just forget about the debt and inflation. Maybe it will just go away because it's more important that we have a President that we like and it's more important to vote based on whether or not we were personally financially better off in the last four years, even if a lot of people weren't. Heh, but who cares about them as long as number 1 is okay.
Cool story, guys. Cool story. Oh wait, FUCK, this is not fiction.
Could we put a tag in the thread titled "the masses are asses". I feel it's worthy.
Last edited by strangeling; 11-07-2012 at 02:02 PM.
good bye
And now I have to go and be a little happy while listening to the president. Bye lovely people!
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
So you are not opposed to state and local taxes?
I think it's a privilege to not have to worry about personal social and financial issues and if you are so lucky, all power to you. But most people did have quite a bit at stake during this election. If you are gay, female, an immigrant, a senior, a single mother, etc. your livelihood and happiness are at stake and things can turn out very differently depending on who is in the White House. I respect that you don't share my personal concerns in this election, but I find it arrogant or at best naive to minimize people's fears and efforts to protect what is important to them.
And why am I the follower when I support Obama? I share much of his vision and would like to live in a society that he proposes to create. Of course it's not perfect and of course there are risks, but why am I the mindless lemming while believing in some sort of Ayn Rand "utopia" is an example of critical thinking? I believe many of you greatly underestimate the passion and excitement that many people invested in this election (on both sides). Perhaps I should share some of my Facebook newsfeed of the last three months...
“Life shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.”
― Anais Nin
I’m not trying to spin this positive, but I’ve talked with several people who think a lot differently than I do (they are in the financial industry) and they saw Romney as a long shot all along, although he would have been a good thing for the economy there would still have been gridlock in Congress.
They saw Obama as more of the same as we’ve seen in the last 2 years since the Rs took the House in 2010, i.e. screwy foreign policy, a loss of status as a world power, but life goes on more-less as it is. Good chance of slipping back into recession (no GNP growth) but no chance of more stimulus fiascos.
Socionics -
the16types.info
A sad but in some ways ironic article from Reuters! http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/1...oreignExchange
(Reuters) - The dollar fell broadly in Asia on Wednesday as media projected U.S. President Barack Obama won a closely-fought election, ensuring that the Federal Reserve's quantitative easing will be in place.
The Democrats look set to retain a majority in the Senate while the Republicans also appear to be solidifying their control of the House of Representatives, keeping intact the risk of policy paralysis over the looming "fiscal cliff" -- a sharp fiscal tightening due to start next year.
"The Fed's quantitative easing is essentially a policy to cheapen the dollar. Republicans have been criticising the policy but it seems like that policy is likely to stay," said Yunosuke Ikeda, senior forex strategist at Nomura Securities.
The dollar fell to as low as 79.81 yen, nearly a full yen below its four-month high of 80.68 yen hit last week, before bouncing back slightly to 80.14 yen, still down 0.3 percent on the day.
An immediate support is seen at 79.275 yen, a low hit on October 30 right after the Bank of Japan's easing.
The dollar's drop came as the 10-year U.S. Treasuries yield dropped seven basis points to as low as 1.68 percent.
On top of Obama's support for quantitative easing, which Romney and many Republicans are opposed as a dangerous intervention that could stoke inflation, Obama's tougher stance on financial regulations is viewed as positive for bonds and negative for stocks.
"After the election, the market will likely shift its focus to the fiscal cliff. It's not clear what Obama can achieve (to reduce the impact of the fiscal cliff)," said Junya Tanase, chief FX strategist at JPMorgan Chase.
About $600 billion in government spending cuts and higher taxes will kick in early next year, unless U.S. lawmakers take steps to mitigate their impact.
While analysts think some sort of a compromise can be reached by the end of the year between the two parties, investors are worried about a repeat of a major showdown last year that led to downgrade of the U.S. credit rating.
The dollar's index against a basket of major currencies fell 0.3 percent to 80.352, slipping further from Monday's two-month high of 80.843.
The euro rose 0.4 percent to $1.2862, bouncing back from a two-month low of $1.2763 hit on Tuesday partly on nervousness ahead of a parliamentary vote in Greece on the country's austerity reforms needed to secure international aid.
Greece's coalition government hopes to overcome its own divisions to push through the austerity package needed to avert bankruptcy in the parliament on Wednesday.
While Prime Minister Antonis Samaras is expected to narrowly win support for the cocktail of budget cuts, tax hikes and labour reforms, the smallest party in his coalition will oppose the measures, leaving him with a margin of just a handful of votes.
The euro had earlier this week broken below its 200-day moving average, but it has managed to cling around that level, at $1.28267 on Wednesday, in a sign investors' fear of a major crisis in the euro zone has subsided after the European Central Bank introduced a scheme to buy bonds of crisis-hit countries.
"The market no longer worries about the euro zone's break-up. The euro is under pressure but that would be a normal currency depreciation due to poor economic performance," said Nomura's Ikeda, adding that the euro will move in a rough $1.25-$1.30 range.
The Australian dollar also gained 0.2 percent to hit a fresh six-week high of $1.0461, extending its gains made after the Reserve Bank of Australia surprised some market players by not cutting rates on Tuesday.
(Reporting by Hideyuki Sano; Editing by Jacqueline Wong)
Socionics -
the16types.info
The whole election "show" in the US is pretty lame. I mean, singers invited, people speaking for hours with big, big words and sensationalistic claims...at least we have Berlusconi and everyone knows he´s a joke
Anyway, what I wanted to say is: I´m glad it ended.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
According to a few of my fb friends this is to be counted amongst the most devastating days in human US American history. Right up there with Pearl Harbor and 9/11 and when JFK got shot I guess. Felt like a Tuesday to me.
Moonlight will fall
Winter will end
Harvest will come
Your heart will mend
Perfect<------------------------------------------------------------------------------>Loops and Tings
Ambivert / Aggressor / Trailblazer / Nomad / Alpha Caretaker / Free Spirit / Kevlar Speed Demon / Ninja
There isnt a single government that sticks for the right of individuals to live by their own means. This is despite the booming economies of states which did so in the 50s.
I slapped my ballot with my Gary Johnson
ILI (FINAL ANSWER)
I'm relieved that Obama won because the G.O.P. freaks me the fuck out. But what really warms the cockles of my heart is the fact that recreational marijuana is now legal in two states, and gay marriage is now legal in two more states. America is (slowly) entering the 21st century.
As for the economy: we're fucked. This is the new reality, and things will never, ever, ever go back to what they were before, no matter who gets elected President. Like, ever. [/Taylor Swift]
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Have you been to the rest of the world? It's mostly awful. Except for the places where pot and gay marriage are legal. (EDIT: Actually, now that I've looked it up, some of the places where pot is legal are pretty awful, lol.)
Well, yes. Basically short of an entire overhaul the political machine and a concomitant/precipitating shift in the public's perception of what we should expect the federal government to realistically do for us, we're pretty much stuck. And, because none of that is likely to happen anytime soon, this is pretty much what we're facing. I don't believe Romney, even if he had the political freedom to do so, would have been willing to make those changes.
Last edited by Animal; 11-07-2012 at 04:19 PM.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Guys, check this out. Apparently hugs are very important to our psychological development.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/.../fulltext.html
Which president is going to mandate hugs? Huh?? Huh??? Or make National Hug Day a national holiday? Hugs are free so they don't even cost money. If the United States is going to die because of the debt or whatever we should at least get hugs.
EDIT: I am sorry this post is so random. I don't know why I did it. Sorry if I am getting annoying. I don't want to annoy anyone. I just thought it would be kind of funny.