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    Quote Originally Posted by leckysupport View Post

    Also I've been slowly reading Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations in preparation for a intellectual personal project. I should speed it up and stop getting distracted with second hand finds.
    Won a £50 amazon voucher at work so it looks like I'm distracted again.

    I just bought two books by Jon Elster.

    Alchemies of the Mind
    Ulysses Unbound

    Both about rationality, common sense and emotion. So far Ulysses Unbound is telling me what I already know about these 3 subjects.

    I also got a cute little something from Hans-Georg Gadamer about Medicine and Philosophy. The Enigma of Health: The Art of Healing in a Scientific Age
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    Psychology of Personality: Readings in Theory.

    https://archive.org/details/psychologyofpers00saha

    - Good advanced text on the nature of personality. Even contains a section on Jungian psychological types.

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    My first Turkish science fiction.


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    Magister Ludi is always a good bet.

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    I just finished Household Gods by Judith Tarr and Harry Turtledove, about an attorney and recently divorced single mother who gets sent back in time to a town in what’s now southern Austria during the reign of Marcus Aurelius. I’d never read either of them before, and I usually don’t like historical fiction, so I was surprised at how well-written this was – up until the ending.

    She goes through some terrible things throughout the book — her lover and daughter die; she gets raped; she watches another woman get raped; she sees soldiers being killed; she comes close to starvation. This is all very traumatic to her, and the way this changes her view of the world is written convincingly and with an obvious amount of care put into conveying it. But then she returns suddenly to her modern life and all this characterization is immediately lost. It’s very jarring; almost like “Haha, I’ve sure learned my lesson about thinking the Romans lived better than us! How lucky I am to be living in a time where Germans don’t sack my city and rape my neighbors and kill their husbands as I watch helplessly! Man, how wild was that!


    As I said, the rest of the book was fantastic. Whichever of the two didn’t write the ending I want to read more of, because they’re very talented. And whoever did write the ending ought to be ashamed of themself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    I just finished Household Gods by Judith Tarr and Harry Turtledove, about an attorney and recently divorced single mother who gets sent back in time to a town in what’s now southern Austria during the reign of Marcus Aurelius. I’d never read either of them before, but this was really well-written— up until the ending.

    She goes through some terrible things throughout the book — her lover and daughter die; she gets raped; she watches another woman get raped; she sees soldiers being killed; she comes close to starvation. This is all very traumatic to her, and the way this changes her view of the world is written convincingly and with an obvious amount of care put into conveying it. But then she returns suddenly to her modern life and all this characterization is immediately lost. It’s very jarring; almost like “Haha, I’ve sure learned my lesson about thinking the Romans lived better than us! How lucky I am to be living in a time where Germans don’t sack my city and rape my neighbors and kill their husbands as I watch helplessly! Man, how wild was that!


    As I said, the rest of the book was fantastic. Whichever of the two didn’t write the ending I want to read more of, because they’re very talented. And whoever did write the ending ought to be ashamed of themself.

    I think there is a tendency for science fiction authors to get lazy sometimes. I mean, the author is already cruising the galaxy and passing through the past and future, what more do the readers want?

    For an early take on this problem, read Alfred Bester's 5,271,009.

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    Man, I've been going down some really strange rabbit holes lately.




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    Been reading Robert Aickman’s short stories. Many have made a strong impression on me.

    I think he was ILI, incidentally. ILIs’ writing always has a certain je ne sais quoi.

    I also found an anthology of Elron Hubbard’s science fiction at a used bookstore and browsed through it. His writing style in scifi is apparently just as obnoxious as it is on religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Been reading Robert Aickman’s short stories. Many have made a strong impression on me.

    I think he was ILI, incidentally. ILIs’ writing always has a certain je ne sais quoi.

    I also found an anthology of Elron Hubbard’s science fiction at a used bookstore and browsed through it. His writing style in scifi is apparently just as obnoxious as it is on religion.
    L. Not El.

    L. as short for Lafayette, his first name. Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. Not The Ron Hubbard.

    Try reading it for real, many fans of Battlefield Earth are not followers of Scientology. Fear is another great one as well as Typewriter in the Sky. The Mission Earth series is brutal, not for a weak stomach, but if you can handle it, it's amazing.

    I'm currently wrapping up reading Ole Doc Methuselah, kinda like a Flash Gordon esque episodic novel, each chapter a new story. I like it but it's real old school. Fun fact, the funds for LRH to research, write, and publish book Dianetics came from the sales and earning aquired from the book Ole Doc Methuselah, which was written for that very purpose.

    FYI, if you were reading an anthology, you were likely reading an edition of Writers of the Future, which is a collection of short stories from contest winners, of which is held and published in LRHs name and honor, but nothing is written by him in that series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY View Post
    L. Not El.

    L. as short for Lafayette, his first name. Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. Not The Ron Hubbard.

    Try reading it for real, many fans of Battlefield Earth are not followers of Scientology. Fear is another great one as well as Typewriter in the Sky. The Mission Earth series is brutal, not for a weak stomach, but if you can handle it, it's amazing.

    I'm currently wrapping up reading Ole Doc Methuselah, kinda like a Flash Gordon esque episodic novel, each chapter a new story. I like it but it's real old school. Fun fact, the funds for LRH to research, write, and publish book Dianetics came from the sales and earning aquired from the book Ole Doc Methuselah, which was written for that very purpose.

    FYI, if you were reading an anthology, you were likely reading an edition of Writers of the Future, which is a collection of short stories from contest winners, of which is held and published in LRHs name and honor, but nothing is written by him in that series.
    As far as what I was reading: it was quite a large book, so I’m not sure if it was a collection of short stories or entire novels. But you might be right.

    I’ll add him to my backlog of ebooks since you insist he is in fact more talented at writing sci-fi than creating New Age religions. シ

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    I read a LOT of sci-fi and I've probably read a few stories by L Ron Hubbard, but they were entirely forgettable.

    What I do remember about him was a story by another author who was talking to him at a party about how sci-fi writers could make more money, and L Ron said that if a guy wanted to make some real money, he'd start a cult.

    Shortly after that, the Church of Scientology was born.

    I know this was just a coincidence, but it certainly doesn't look very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    I read a LOT of sci-fi and I've probably read a few stories by L Ron Hubbard, but they were entirely forgettable.

    What I do remember about him was a story by another author who was talking to him at a party about how sci-fi writers could make more money, and L Ron said that if a guy wanted to make some real money, he'd start a cult.

    Shortly after that, the Church of Scientology was born.

    I know this was just a coincidence, but it certainly doesn't look very good.
    That quote is widely attributed but never proven. No one can find the source of that other than he said she said.

    Try reading Mission Earth. It's the craziest sci-fi story I've read, a lot of scenes are insanely brutal and shocking in how casual the brutality is to the characters. The first book will piss you off though with how you'll be screaming for the main character to hurry up and just leave the goddamn planet already but, spoiler alert, he doesn't leave until the exact end of the book. Omg I wanted the villain to just kill him so badly with how that was pissing me off lol.

    If you read his pulp fiction and find that forgettable, just remember, it's pulp fiction. The point is to type out as much words as possible for a cheap and mildly entertaining story. Definitely don't hold his full novels to the standard of his pulps, which aren't bad if you like pulp, but is very dated and an aquired taste.

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    The Four Agreements is one of the really good books I've read. I'm now reading Attached and it's helping me realize a lot of things I didn't have a full understanding of.

    I also really love Rick Riordan's books, he wrote one of my favorites series Percy Jackson, and I also love the Kane Chronicles.



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    I read the Percy Jackson books when I was a teenager and liked them for what they were. But I always felt a certain disappointment that the author only ever repeated mythology, and didn’t add any dimension of his own except to Americanize them. The gods especially are caricatures; there’s not even a hint of a second dimension with them. That’s egregious in the case of Dionysos.

    The Kane Chronicles...well, the gods had to be characterized better since there was so much less material to work with, but on the whole I thought that series was worse. I don’t remember it very well, but I remember being disappointed that when the siblings became avatars of Isis and Horus, they didn’t develop more incesty thoughts as the Pharaohs apparently did. I thought that would make the books much more interesting. Lol.

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    Well, I just finished Moldavite: The Starborne Stone of Transformation.


    Right now of this second, I am reading some of Caught in the Web of the Criminal Justice System: Autism, Developmental Disabilities and Sex Offenses. And soon need to complete reading the biography on Stanley Hall by Dorothy Ross..

    I never much was a reader, but for projects I am working on with adolescence and also making the world more fair for people with autism, I have some required reading..
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    I do recommend Moldavite, the stone, for anyone who has Aspergers and has difficulty being in the world.. I recommend people read book on criminality and sex offenses in regards to autism to people into psychology and who want better understand of autism, and then the G. Stanley Hall biography for wanting know the founder of adolescent and child psychology, as well as what adolescence historically has defined as.
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    I think the book on autistic criminality and the book on Stanley Hall most would pique interest of enneagram 5 cores, and also maybe 9's. If 8's want to see true justice and protect vulnerable people, then they should read the autism one.
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    I also the other day picked up Megha Majumdar's novel A Burning, yet have not yet opened its content.
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    ^ This is hilarious.

    A group of libertarian debate-bros literally took control of a New Hampshire town. And in the process of establishing their anarcho-capitalist utopia, they basically ran it into the ground. Essential services ground to a halt and the town was eventually overrun by bears.



    Interview with the journalist: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ngoltz-hetling

    By pretty much any measure you can look at to gauge a town’s success, Grafton got worse. Recycling rates went down. Neighbor complaints went up. The town’s legal costs went up because they were constantly defending themselves from lawsuits from Free Towners. The number of sex offenders living in the town went up. The number of recorded crimes went up. The town had never had a murder in living memory, and it had its first two, a double homicide, over a roommate dispute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerx View Post


    ^ This is hilarious.

    A group of libertarian debate-bros literally took control of a New Hampshire town. And in the process of establishing their anarcho-capitalist utopia, they basically ran it into the ground. Essential services ground to a halt and the town was eventually overrun by bears.



    Interview with the journalist: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ngoltz-hetling
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    I got halfway through the thread and I got impatient, so IDK if this was already said.

    The classics are still pretty good.

    Jane Austen's writing is comfy AF. ex: Pride and Prejudice

    O Henry's short stories. ex: The Gift of the Magi

    Ernest Hemingway is good but may be an acquired taste. ex: The Sun Also Rises

    William Faulkner. Ex: The Sound and Fury

    Virginia Woolfe. Ex. Mrs. Dalloway


    More modern authors could be Cormac McCarthy. Ex: Blood Meridian
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    Katrina Raphael's crystal trilogy.. I read the last one first, The Crystalline Transmission, now I am reading Crystal Enlightenment.
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    I hope this book is as good as it sounds lol

    Robert Greene



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    THE BESTSELLING BOOK FOR THOSE WHO WANT POWER, WATCH POWER, OR WANT TO ARM THEMSELVES AGAINST POWER . . .
    A moral, cunning, ruthless, and instructive, this piercing work distills three thousand years of the history of power into forty-eight well-explicated laws. As attention-grabbing in its design as it is in its content, this bold volume outlines the laws of power in their unvarnished essence, synthesizing the philosophies of Machiavelli, Sun-tzu, Carl von Clausewitz, and other great thinkers. Some laws require prudence ("Law 1: Never Outshine the Master"), some stealth ("Law 3: Conceal Your Intentions"), and some the total absence of mercy ("Law 15: Crush Your Enemy Totally") but like it or not, all have applications in real-life situations. Illustrated through the tactics of Queen Elizabeth I, Henry Kissinger, P. T. Barnum, and other famous figures who have wielded -- or been victimized by -- power, these laws will fascinate any reader interested in gaining, observing, or defending against ultimate control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    I hope this book is as good as it sounds lol

    Robert Greene



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    From the Back Cover

    THE BESTSELLING BOOK FOR THOSE WHO WANT POWER, WATCH POWER, OR WANT TO ARM THEMSELVES AGAINST POWER . . .
    A moral, cunning, ruthless, and instructive, this piercing work distills three thousand years of the history of power into forty-eight well-explicated laws. As attention-grabbing in its design as it is in its content, this bold volume outlines the laws of power in their unvarnished essence, synthesizing the philosophies of Machiavelli, Sun-tzu, Carl von Clausewitz, and other great thinkers. Some laws require prudence ("Law 1: Never Outshine the Master"), some stealth ("Law 3: Conceal Your Intentions"), and some the total absence of mercy ("Law 15: Crush Your Enemy Totally") but like it or not, all have applications in real-life situations. Illustrated through the tactics of Queen Elizabeth I, Henry Kissinger, P. T. Barnum, and other famous figures who have wielded -- or been victimized by -- power, these laws will fascinate any reader interested in gaining, observing, or defending against ultimate control.
    If you like Power, definitely read his book Mastery. That was my favorite of his books, though I haven't read Seduction or the 50 Cent one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLY View Post
    If you like Power, definitely read his book Mastery. That was my favorite of his books, though I haven't read Seduction or the 50 Cent one.
    I haven’t started on it yet, but I actually have both on hold for the audiobook on my Libby app through my library! They both look extremely interesting, definitely!
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    I've read the 48 Laws of Power but I prefer The Prince by Machiavelli instead. It has timeless lessons in it.

    I think the 48 Laws of Power has a too cynical a view on relationships with others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D E M O N View Post
    I've read the 48 Laws of Power but I prefer The Prince by Machiavelli instead. It has timeless lessons in it.

    I think the 48 Laws of Power has a too cynical a view on relationships with others.
    The Prince is quite easy to like, I just got bothered by too much historical details that I had to read before I get the lessons lol.
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