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    Post sincere socionics interest

    i'm curious how many people who post here do so primarily out of a sincere interest in socionics and a desire to apply it appropriately in their real lives.

    please answer poll - it is anonymous for your protection.

    discuss if you want.

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    I guess I'm not as avidly into socionics as I was for the first year or so, given how I've come to better understand its limitations. I do think it has some worthwhile uses in real life situations, assuming you know what it is you're looking at in the first place. In terms of immediate practical application Enneagram blows Socionics out of the water though, given its relative ease of understanding and what it aims to define.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galen View Post
    I guess I'm not as avidly into socionics as I was for the first year or so, given how I've come to better understand its limitations. I do think it has some worthwhile uses in real life situations, assuming you know what it is you're looking at in the first place. In terms of immediate practical application Enneagram blows Socionics out of the water though, given its relative ease of understanding and what it aims to define.
    I've personally found Jung a lot easier to practically apply and get results from, after it being understood, and Enneagram and Socionics the opposite, after being understood. The Enneagram was cool when I first started typing people, but after years I realize how limited it is. I look at people and see a lot more colors of motivation than I can claim they have of single types, tritypes and stackings. With Socionics it's the same problem. This is why Enneagram and Socionics will continue to grow and more categories be applied, because it's simple, and Jung will simply fade more. I haven't found any realistic faults with Jung nor have I found anyone that interested in learning it because it's somewhat abstract to explain, but I like it because it's had the best outcome and I'm not a simple thinker either. I think Jung's Fi is the clearest typological description I've read that really fits me, and hints more at what Aushra was getting at than some other Socionicists seem to do. I tend to view Socionics and Jung as separate though. I might start carrying Jung's Fi around in my wallet for no particular reason.

    As far as enneagram, tritype seems like a better suit for it, as people generally seem a mix of types because I often find no such thing as a dominant motivation.

    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i'm curious how many people who post here do so primarily out of a sincere interest in socionics and a desire to apply it appropriately in their real lives.
    More so the latter than the former. I'm a defender against anything that sounds wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polikujm View Post
    As far as enneagram, tritype seems like a better suit for it, as people generally seem a mix of types because I often find no such thing as a dominant motivation.

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    also I'm sure for some people there's a good balance between the two but I want to make you choose. nuanced perspectives are for posting. for the poll I just want simple statistics so please suck it up and just pick one. (:

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    First option for me although I couldn't give a flying toss about that abstract shite that comes with it and I did learned and applied it before, not really though. I know instantly whom I'm going to get along with after meeting/talking with them not even "doing" socionics, Jung, MBTI and all, I knew it before, I know it after.

    Taking into account, I cound't care less what your views are unless they do clash with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    First option for me although I couldn't give a flying toss about that abstract shite that comes with it and I did learned and applied it before, not really though. I know instantly whom I'm going to get along with after meeting/talking with them not even "doing" socionics, Jung, MBTI and all, I knew it before, I know it after.

    Taking into account, I cound't care less what your views are unless they do clash with mine.
    For someone who is genuinely interested in socionics you are perhaps the least constructive person ever. All you do is post random judgmental nonsense and then sort of dismissively explain your behavior when confronted. It's almost like you completely and totally give no fucks about socionics, this site, or anyone on it. I'm just saying I'd much prefer that if you actually understand socionics, you try to make that understanding accessible and then not give fucks about who disagrees with you instead of just not giving fucks about explaining anything in the first place because you get it and that's all that matters.
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    I am not ashamed to say i am a part of this community out of pure interest in socionics and a desire to learn how to apply it in my everyday life. That is my ENTIRE purpose here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I am not ashamed to say i am a part of this community out of pure interest in socionics and a desire to learn how to apply it in my everyday life. That is my ENTIRE purpose here.
    do you feel like you're under pressure to be ashamed of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    do you feel like you're under pressure to be ashamed of it?
    no not at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I am not ashamed to say i am a part of this community out of pure interest in socionics and a desire to learn how to apply it in my everyday life. That is my ENTIRE purpose here.
    ENTIRE? Not the people... at all?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    ENTIRE? Not the people... at all?

    Aww, well the cool people here is what keeps me around and communicating, but no my purpose isn't really to meet people from here irl, though i guess i'm somewhat flexible about it, just because a lot of you are really awesome. I'm wary of meeting people from the interwebs though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    For someone who is genuinely interested in socionics you are perhaps the least constructive person ever. All you do is post random judgmental nonsense and then sort of dismissively explain your behavior when confronted. It's almost like you completely and totally give no fucks about socionics, this site, or anyone on it. I'm just saying I'd much prefer that if you actually understand socionics, you try to make that understanding accessible and then not give fucks about who disagrees with you instead of just not giving fucks about explaining anything in the first place because you get it and that's all that matters.
    Well he jokes around a lot whenever he does say something, but behind the scenes he is learning deeply. He is not a dumb fella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    Well he jokes around a lot whenever he does say something, but behind the scenes he is learning deeply. He is not a dumb fella.

    Yeah, I get that, that's why I'm pissed off at him. If he is smart he should show it, and he's not. He never has. He's someone who thinks of himself as intelligent but instead of doing anything constructive with it chooses to be a frivolous nuisance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    For someone who is genuinely interested in socionics you are perhaps the least constructive person ever. All you do is post random judgmental nonsense and then sort of dismissively explain your behavior when confronted. It's almost like you completely and totally give no fucks about socionics, this site, or anyone on it. I'm just saying I'd much prefer that if you actually understand socionics, you try to make that understanding accessible and then not give fucks about who disagrees with you instead of just not giving fucks about explaining anything in the first place because you get it and that's all that matters.
    Oh shit, I can't still get what the heck you're on like you were from a different Planet or something and what is "random judgemental nonsense" and why is this thread about me again?

    And I would much prefer if you would stay out of my life, you're no part of it and never have been.

    Oh I see, I have to understand socionics now, okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Oh I see, I have to understand socionics now, okay.
    You don't? I was under the impression that you thought fairly highly of your own understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWC3 View Post
    You don't? I was under the impression that you thought fairly highly of your own understanding.
    What are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    First option for me although I couldn't give a flying toss about that abstract shite that comes with it and I did learned and applied it before, not really though. I know instantly whom I'm going to get along with after meeting/talking with them not even "doing" socionics, Jung, MBTI and all, I knew it before, I know it after.

    Taking into account, I cound't care less what your views are unless they do clash with mine.
    I always knew you are here for the first option. And yeah... PRACTICAL application. I'm definitely with you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I always knew you are here for the first option. And yeah... PRACTICAL application. I'm definitely with you there.
    You can't apply socionics practically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    You can't apply socionics practically.
    sure you can
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    sure you can
    I would like to know how taking into account majority of this forum's humble schizophrenics hopping from quadra to quadra is going to apply anything, besides popping up out of thin air like giant spotted elephant to announce you're mistyped.

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    Ummm I'd say its a combination, I am always learning more about Socionics but I mostly come here to socialize these days. I would never have come or stayed here without socionics, and I would probably leave if it really turned into a knitting circle.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    I would probably leave if it really turned into a knitting circle.
    What if we had cookies? And we switched the color combination to a badass black and red combo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snaps View Post
    What if we had cookies? And we switched the color combination to a badass black and red combo?
    Only if you sign a contract to buy all of your needles and thread from me.

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    I'm here because this place offers more socionics opinions than others. Quantity =/= quality, but you know. I can't say I'm incredibly committed to learning socionics, or I'd probably be farther in my understanding of it by now. I guess this place is kind of like a bad drug; it's stressful at times, but you can't help coming back for more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Ummm I'd say its a combination, I am always learning more about Socionics but I mostly come here to socialize these days. I would never have come or stayed here without socionics, and I would probably leave if it really turned into a knitting circle.
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    What if we had cookies? And we switched the color combination to a badass black and red combo?
    Or something like this?
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    I've made a few important decisions while weighing them with socionics information and it's pretty effective at giving some guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    I've made a few important decisions while weighing them with socionics information and it's pretty effective at giving some guidance.

    Yeah same. I wish i could apply it more though. I'm still not great at typing people.
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    i voted the first option, but it's not as if the social aspects of this place aren't also a large contributor to my interest in this place. i have made friends & acquaintances (both online & IRL) through this forum that i likely would not have made otherwise, and i think that's awesome.

    i just have a hard time seeing myself completely losing interest in socionics. once you know it, it's not exactly a topic you can easily un-learn or completely forget about.

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    lol absurd the mystery man. is he a jokester? a troll? a secret intellectual? i feel like i'm the only person who gets him most of the time tbh. and maybe april too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    lol absurd the mystery man. is he a jokester? a troll? a secret intellectual? i feel like i'm the only person who gets him most of the time tbh. and maybe april too.
    I actually get him more than you do.

    and yes he's all of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkaholicsAnon View Post
    I actually get him more than you do.

    and yes he's all of the above.
    *pat*

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    Dear Socionics,

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    I have a kind of insincere interest....
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    Quote Originally Posted by lungs View Post
    i'm curious how many people who post here do so primarily out of a sincere interest in socionics and a desire to apply it appropriately in their real lives.
    IMO it makes sense to read a few people's posts largely with a purpose in mind of learning socionics. And the posts of many others with a purpose of widening one's horizon in various other areas, some quite distant from socionics. Writing posts, on the other hand, seems to me mostly a social activity which is wrt most forumites most of the time most naturally viewed as being motivated by various kinds of social impulse more than a desire to either produce or transmit theoretical knowledge.
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    @Absurd: play some oi and don't think too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravolez View Post
    @<a href="http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/member.php?u=1570" target="_blank">Absurd</a> : play some oi and don't think too much.
    You're actually right, I might end up gamma from too much thinking and I do not want that.

    Anyway:

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    I don't see a reason why someone would even think that Absurd knows anything about socionics.

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    I was about to add that it is possible that a hundred monkeys with PCs might contribute more to this forum than Absurd but then I realized that there are already far more than 100 monkeys with PCs posting on the forum.

    Edit: and they do contribute more than Absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravolez View Post
    I was about to add that it is possible that a hundred monkeys with PCs might contribute more to this forum than Absurd but then I realized that there are already far more than 100 monkeys with PCs posting on the forum.
    Damn, you're right again. I bet your name is Albert and you're a Rhesus monkey that was launched into outer space. Only thing that is missing is you dying in the process but I'm sure you won't disappoint me.

    Oh and think you're mistyped

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