Bats For Lashes (Natasha Khan)

[Radio]

"All of the art that I love is about peeling back layers, and delving into something that's in a subconscious or dream realm. People like Jan Svankmajer, or the artist Yoshimoto Nara, or David Lynch. You live your everyday life, but then there's also thoughts, feelings, energies you get from other people, ghosts, ancestors and the path you're on... all of those spiritual things that are deeper in the mind than what is just in front of you."

"I'm not religious, but what interests me is that when people are religious, they need to be able to suspend their disbelief in order to believe in fables and stories. There's an element of naivety there that they need to keep. What I learnt from that has to do with storytelling, being able to escape into other worlds, or feeling emotionally connected to worlds that are symbolic or outside of normal human experience."





She makes weird spacey goth-pop music. I'm not a huge fan but she's really intelligent and, if not anything else, an original.

My impression of her is a bit muddled and I can't seem to settle on her type. The one recurring typing in my mind is Fi-ESFp, I'm not sure why. Alhough, maybe any Fi ego could work just as well. She reminds me a bit of @lungs in a way.

Thoughts? Opinions?

[Radio]

[ashlesha]

I only really know her for her song what's a girl to do which slayed me when I was with my ex. mostly her music slides past my ears without catching, but I think she's got an interesting thing going on regardless. anyway, the more you know.

vi-wise I can see where esfp is coming from. idk though but now I'm curious because the comparison doesn't seem unreasonable

[Galen]

She seems reasonably Fi-ESFp to me, has the same sort of rambleyness that SEEs tend to have. Seems fairly Dolphin-ey as well, maybe a touch of Lily Allen in there as well (also seems ESFp to me). Too bad her music isn't great :/

[Sol]

ISFP

[jouziou]

SEE-Fi make sense for her

[Luciforms]

C'mom! Look her lyrics! She's is ALPHA, A ISFP. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeLNuQdfcQw

[Yaaroslav]

ISFP

DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?

[Gilly]

DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?

 

DO YOU CONSIDER: I WILL FLY TO WHATEVER GODFORSAKEN HOVEL IN RUSSIA KEEPS THE SNOW OFF YOUR MANGY HEAD AND BEAT YOUR FACE WITH A PRINTED TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR IDIOCY UNTIL YOU LEARN ENGLISH, SHUT THE FUCK UP, OR DIE

[Luciforms]

^ lol:

[Esaman]

ISFp. That music video is as strong of visualization and concentration of Si you will ever get.
She walks in comfortable clothes, at times hugging herself. Some abstract things she apparently doesn't see are interacting with her body. The environment and snapshots of composition of objects is an image of dirty/broken/uncomfortable.

Song is full of Si also:
Run in the dark - More bodily senses than sight are heightened.

"The smell of cinders and rain
Perfumed almost everything"

Under a sheet of rain in my heart

But in a goodbye bed
With my arms around your neck

I dream of home - comfort of home as highest value.

All lines about fire in the heart sounds like Fe to me. Though it was her expressions in interview that convinced me that she is Fe ego.

[Radio]

...

Interesting. Those are the very things that made me think Se, rather than Si. The descriptions sound more static > dynamic to me. For comparison, here's a song by Bjork, a commonly accepted Si-ISFp:

As the lukewarm hands of the gods
Came down and gently picked my adrenaline pearls
They placed them in their mouths
And rinsed all of the fear out
Nourished them with their saliva

[dynamic, actions, direction]

Now I'm all rejuvenated and rested
Now I'm all rejuvenated and rested

As if the healthiest past-time
Is being in life-threatening circumstances
And once again be reborn

Compare to:

And under wild blue skies
Marble movie skies
I found a home in your eyes
We'll never be apart

And when the fires came
The smell of cinders and rain
Perfumed almost everything
We laughed and laughed and laughed

[static, descriptive, images]

And in the golden blue
Crying took me to
The darkest place you knew
And set fire to my heart

When I read the lyrics to the first song, there's a sense of movement, direction, momentum, things building up towards a certain end; in the second, I hear snapshots, elaborate images, static descriptions of what is. I would sooner think ENFp > ISFp but ESFp fits the best IMO.

[Esaman]

Taking an extreme example of active Si and judging anything less active and more descriptive as not Si is a folly. It is the sensual + interactive quality that makes something Si.

"The smell of cinders and rain
Perfumed almost everything" - that can be argued to be active and interaction

"And under wild blue skies
Marble movie skies"

- yes, that is static. But common, it is absurd to deny Si artist the use of all kind of images.

* That would make the art one sided, extreme (Bjork)
* All people have some appreciation of static beauty
* Static images can be experienced and meant to be experienced interactively/relationally/dynamically/ in Si way.

For example in the video there are practically still images of burned and wet objects - interactive/dynamic quality of being uncomfortable to touch.
An image of burned chair with some charred shit occupying it. - I am quite sure that it is meant to imbued a sense of how something that is supposed to be interactively comfortable very much isn't.

There is no arguing that the central piece of video (her with the shadows) cannot be any more dynamical.
The song is full of sensual + interactive lines and ISFp values even if there are some things that can judged static.

[Radio]

Okay then.

[Yaaroslav]

DO YOU CONSIDER: I WILL FLY TO WHATEVER GODFORSAKEN HOVEL IN RUSSIA KEEPS THE SNOW OFF YOUR MANGY HEAD AND BEAT YOUR FACE WITH A PRINTED TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR IDIOCY UNTIL YOU LEARN ENGLISH, SHUT THE FUCK UP, OR DIE

I SEE: YOU LIKE MY POSTS

[Simon Ssmall]

I SEE: YOU LIKE MY POSTS

Seriously though, you should see yourself to an english language school.

[Gilly]

Seriously though, you should see yourself to an english language school.

pwned by a real bilingual slav

[thegreenfaerie]

I love Natasha Khan’s style extremely. She’s always been a style icon to me.

[thegreenfaerie]

recent



I feel like she's something that values Ni based on lyrics, interviews, tastes I've seen

[mclane]

She is ESE.

[thegreenfaerie]

I appreciate the feedback! Do you know her? Wondering if you've seen more of her stuff.

[thegreenfaerie]

I see Si with her over Se too btw, I almost said "values Si and Ni", confused by the SEE typing I'm seeing