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    ...Soul mates do not exist.

    Duality is dumb.

    End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    ...Soul mates do not exist.

    Duality is dumb.

    End of story.
    What is "smart"?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    ...What type of question is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    ...What type of question is that?
    If you don't think it is smart, then why are you bothering with Socionics? It's the kind of question to get you to think about what it is that you say, maybe.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    ...Not sure if its me, or if you're trying to speak in riddles...but I have nothing agaisn't socionics. I just said fuck duality, because it's nothing but trouble.

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    Love is love.
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    And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    ...Not sure if its me, or if you're trying to speak in riddles...but I have nothing agaisn't socionics. I just said fuck duality, because it's nothing but trouble.
    LOL Agee, you're the extravert, take charge.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maritsa33 View Post
    LOL Agee, you're the extravert, take charge.
    That's what I do...or at least try. Never works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    That's what I do...or at least try. Never works out.
    Allie Allie
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agee The Great View Post
    ...Soul mates do not exist.

    Duality is dumb.

    End of story.
    lol
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    So Jet City, when you meet your dual and come back to this forum all excited and happy and finally realizing what it's all about, I will smile and nod but I'll never say I told you so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aivonua nainini View Post
    We can discuss this further in my typing thread (or actually, could the posts discussing my type be split from here and merged with my thread? This is getting offtopic)
    I was going to suggest this, too. Not that I don't find this discussion fascinating, it's just way off-topic now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    So Jet City, when you meet your dual and come back to this forum all excited and happy and finally realizing what it's all about, I will smile and nod but I'll never say I told you so.
    My money's going on that not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    My money's going on that not happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    So Jet City, when you meet your dual and come back to this forum all excited and happy and finally realizing what it's all about, I will smile and nod but I'll never say I told you so.
    Ridiculous and retarded. I think being with someone who has Fe dom and Ti inf would make me shoot myself. Trust me, I've tested it. I can't even have a real, deep and interesting conversation with them. (Not to say they can with me either.) Even thinking of just enneagram matches and instinctual variant matches may even cancel some of these "dual" relationships entirely. And that's just one tiny piece of the puzzle...... the best matches for a 6w5cp are definitely not 2 or 1, which are the most common matches for an ENFj. Good luck finding an ENFj 8, and good luck pairing a 6w5cp sx/sp with a 1 or a 2. (Not saying it can't happen of course, but it's an unlikely match.)

    Keeping the T/F together and changing two or three letters of the type, E/I, S/N, P/J, seems to work better, and it allows for correct enneagram matches. That's the system I seem to prefer. (My S.O. actually dumped his dual for me, btw lol).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    Ridiculous and retarded. I think being with someone who has Fe dom and Ti inf would make me shoot myself. Trust me, I've tested it. I can't even have a real, deep and interesting conversation with them. (Not to say they can with me either.) Even thinking of just enneagram matches and instinctual variant matches may even cancel some of these "dual" relationships entirely. And that's just one tiny piece of the puzzle...... the best matches for a 6w5cp are definitely not 2 or 1, which are the most common matches for an ENFj. Good luck finding an ENFj 8, and good luck pairing a 6w5cp sx/sp with a 1 or a 2. (Not saying it can't happen of course, but it's an unlikely match.)

    Keeping the T/F together and changing two or three letters of the type, E/I, S/N, P/J, seems to work better, and it allows for correct enneagram matches. That's the system I seem to prefer. (My S.O. actually dumped his dual for me, btw lol).
    I love contrarians. Hey, now that I think about it, I think the system you're describing is pretty close to what the Kiersey Temperament people think. If I remember correctly. But they of course deal with MBTI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    Ridiculous and retarded. I think being with someone who has Fe dom and Ti inf would make me shoot myself. Trust me, I've tested it. I can't even have a real, deep and interesting conversation with them. (Not to say they can with me either.) Even thinking of just enneagram matches and instinctual variant matches may even cancel some of these "dual" relationships entirely. And that's just one tiny piece of the puzzle...... the best matches for a 6w5cp are definitely not 2 or 1, which are the most common matches for an ENFj. Good luck finding an ENFj 8, and good luck pairing a 6w5cp sx/sp with a 1 or a 2. (Not saying it can't happen of course, but it's an unlikely match.)

    Keeping the T/F together and changing two or three letters of the type, E/I, S/N, P/J, seems to work better, and it allows for correct enneagram matches. That's the system I seem to prefer. (My S.O. actually dumped his dual for me, btw lol).
    the only problem with this little equation is that you are by no means ti leading.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    I love contrarians. Hey, now that I think about it, I think the system you're describing is pretty close to what the Kiersey Temperament people think. If I remember correctly. But they of course deal with MBTI.
    Hmmm, Idk, because I've never studied Kiersey. I just measure from experiences, of what I've seen and what works for me. Being a six, I can become very anxious under certain conditions. While it appears I am more extroverted online, I'm pretty introverted irl. And certain types in general make me very nervous if I'm alone with them for long periods, or if a bad situation occurs and they don't handle it a certain way. (My S.O.s ISFp mother gave me a panic attack recently lol.... and my ESFj sister, I can't even go out with alone; she also gave me a panic attack at her wedding). I think being ISTj and 6w5 has led me to this place where if people can't handle themselves with cool in certain situations, it makes me lose trust in them, and it makes me fear the worst. I trust myself to handle it, but not them, and when they become involved, everything seems to spin out of control and it's horrible. I've learned to just take charge, and I have to yell at them and tell them to stfu and let me deal with it and handle it my way. I also lack patience lol....... Just one example of why dual relationships may not be the best, happiest ones for a certain individual (obviously). My S.O. also complained that his dual and he, while they got along well, had nothing to talk about. They didn't connect when it came to conversation or discussion (same complaint I have, and my brother has also). My brother is in a relationship with his dual, and they rarely even see each other. He doesn't even know where she works half the time lol. There have been multiple occurrences of cheating, screaming and yelling we've witnessed, acting out, physical violence, throwing each other's clothes out on the lawn, police visits, etc. And no, they aren't poverty-stricken or ridiculously ignorant. She is going now for her Phd and he is a manager. My brother constantly slags on her, calls her fat, and complains about her. So this is his one true love!

    I don't think any one standard can work for everyone. There are too many contributing factors leading to compatibilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    the only problem with this little equation is that you are by no means ti leading.
    Very funny; retard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post

    Very funny; retard.
    Jetson, almost every single thing you say lacks any sort of logical coherence or foundation, and you've never even made even a remotely plausible correlation or explanation as to why you might be Ti. You don't talk or react or behave like any LSI dom that has ever been on the forums, or that I have ever known IRL. You troll forums for fun. When people go against your "reasoning" you assume they are stupid and call them F tards or trolls, without giving a reasonable counter-argument or rebuttal. I actually don't know if you are capable of rational debate. You are not LSI.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    Jetson, almost every single thing you say lacks any sort of logical coherence or foundation, and you've never even made even a remotely plausible correlation or explanation as to why you might be Ti. You don't talk or react or behave like any LSI dom that has ever been on the forums, or that I have ever known IRL. You troll forums for fun. When people go against your "reasoning" you assume they are stupid and call them F tards or trolls, without giving a reasonable counter-argument or rebuttal. I actually don't know if you are capable of rational debate. You are not LSI.
    You are a retard. I don't have the time or patience for you at all. So go away. I really don't care what you think about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    You are a retard. I don't have the time or patience for you at all. So go away. I really don't care what you think about me.
    Thank you for exemplifying exactly what I just stated.
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    Thank you for exemplifying exactly what I just stated.
    Here's a quarter. Call someone who cares what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    Here's a quarter. Call someone who cares.
    u mad bro?
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Quote Originally Posted by thePirate View Post
    u mad bro?
    Defriended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    Defriended.
    so sad bro Im weeping tbh

    ;_;
    <Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" is and not

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    Payphones are more than a quarter now!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    Payphones are more than a quarter now!!
    Not around here. They are still a quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    Not around here. They are still a quarter.
    you're like my pre-teen daughter. you contradict everything I say. lol
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    Duality signals clear communication.

    That communication can be either positive, neutral or indeed negative!

    It does not predispose positive communication and that is why it's a waste of time to listen to when Pe firsts discuss duality.

    This is my scientific appraisal of the situation.

    Here is a picture of scarlett johansson eating popcorn to help you all feel better about yourselves, even the misguided positives only armchair typologists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by redbaron View Post
    you're like my pre-teen daughter. you contradict everything I say. lol
    Lol, I'm just telling the truth. It is a quarter around here to make a call. Does your daughter happen to be ISTj?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet city woman View Post
    Lol, I'm just telling the truth. It is a quarter around here to make a call. Does your daughter happen to be ISTj?
    Nah, she's IEI. But a difficult one! haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleJim View Post
    Here is a picture of scarlett johansson eating popcorn to help you all feel better about yourselves, even the misguided positives only armchair typologists.
    OMFG! Quick, everyone close your browser before Scarlett gets fat!

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    Scarlett J is like the prettiest person in the world with the best body in the world. She was even pretty when she had that mullet thing going on. It's not fair.

    and jeez, reading Agee's posts make me so depressed.

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    The idea of a soul mate is a myth. Maybe it stems from self-infatuation. Who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathOnASnowField View Post
    The idea of a soul mate is a myth. Maybe it stems from self-infatuation. Who knows.
    If you make an exact copy of a person, does it behave identically? If so, free will and most interpretations of the soul are entirely bound to physical reality. This is something most romanticist don't want to digest.

    However, the experience of finding someone to make you feel complete is always real. It's an experience hence it cannot be unreal.

    People shouldn't cling onto the ideal real world behind our perceptions since it's unachievable. We should give more value to what feels real to us right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    If you make an exact copy of a person, does it behave identically?
    Nope. Two physical bodies can't be in the same place at the same time so the way they perceive and affect their environment & vice versa is different. Also, quantum physics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agarina View Post
    Nope. Two physical bodies can't be in the same place at the same time so the way they perceive and affect their environment & vice versa is different. Also, quantum physics?
    The Uncertainty Principle is the beauty of it all.
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