ILE.
ILE.
Who said.Originally Posted by Baby
I am probably one of those (probably the latter), but duality doesn't work over the internet.Yeah, best way to go about is just to "try on" a type for a while, and observe your interactions and see the type of people you're drawn to.
No. Ne ego is impossible.
Hmm...
Assuming this is a question and not a declarative statement... uh, I just did.
At any rate, it beats theoretical discussion that is grounded in nothing but abstraction and ends up in endless cycles of intellectual masturbation. Most attempts at typing that exist only in the vacuum of internet discussion end up useless. People usually come to conclusions about what type fits best out in the world, engaging with people.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Thought that this is connected with TeAlways when I am preparing for something I usually acumulate knowledge of this area to do things fast and improve methods.
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What can I say is that I am trying to not be overconfident but even if it looks like I am overconfident the purpose of this is to give a little bit of this confidence to others. Often if something isn't going like I planned I stop believing in myself and then I need someone who will say "everything will be ok, don't worry" even if everything is going reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeealy bad.Irrational maybe?
If I had some examples of discussions about concrete things and abstract theoretical discussions would be easier to answer.
Not sure about EIE, I think that my mom is EIE. She panics about absolutely everything and this makes me crazy. Sometimes I have to shout at her to make her stop talking (in most cases it doesn't work) or just ignore (I have to wear headphones to not piss off).
Can you explain why? I am sure it is connected with our last conversation on tinychat but I don't understand.
Last edited by cps; 05-07-2012 at 05:34 PM.
We were exchanging nonsensical questions and answering them to the best of our ability. I have never met an Ne-ego who would not take part in this. You didn't seem to have any idea what was going on.
Yesterday I asked my IEE dad what he would do if someone attacked him with a mole-dog. He asked what he had with him. I told him, "A flyswatter and a picnic basket." So he stuck the picnic basket over the mole-dog's head and hit it with the flyswatter.
Well yeah, that's right I was totally confused and a little bit scared thinking *what the hell they want from me* not sure why that happend, maybe beacuse I didn't see connection with conversation or I didn't suspect sth like that especially in english and I just ignored the questions. Maybe if you asked me in my native language I would react in a different manner
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This question isn't that hard to answer until I know what is a purpose of it
Imagine that you are in a new environment and you know absolutely nothing about people you are talking with. They start asking questions so fast, completely not connected with anything and you don't know point of it. What would you do?
Have you considered MMA school?
Not at all, I wasn't thinking seriously about MMA. It is placed somewhere in a distant future only if I stand enough long training taekwondo. To be honest I am lazy bastard and I only do things that I really like (excluding studying LOL).
Well, you can take part any time, but it is Mixed Martial Arts and people do actually wield judo/karate/kickboxing, combined. The ones that reach the top and stay there, that is.
You strike me as Rational and an Ni-Se valuer.
EDIT - I listened to your chatroom discussion with the members here and based on what you wrote and your responses to some questions I chimed in, your attitude towards the world strikes me an IP temperament with Fe-PoLR. I'd consider ILI. Possibly SLI too.
Last edited by HandiAce; 05-07-2012 at 10:00 PM.
FWIW, all I was really saying was that ILE and SLE were more likely than LIE -- not that he was definitely ILE > SLE. I think he should definitely entertain both possibilities, but I think it's a pretty close call. I try not to do the thing where you read functions in people's posts, though, because stuff can be attributed to multiple functions and it just ends up becoming hyper-analytic.I actually kind of thought the opposite way to Baby - your replies made you sound Se > Ne
This seems like a pretty weird thing to do, especially considering: 1.) the guy is new and had no idea what to expect, and 2.) his first language isn't English. Humor is one of the hardest things to master in a new language, and it's perfectly understandable that he would be confused by what you were doing. It seems kind of dickish to just bombard him with bizarre, random questions and then be all "Nope... Ne is an impossibility" when he inevitably is confuzzled.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Answer the questions...
zzzzz
sure.
I think that both we can connect with Ni.
SLE is a good typingYou look a bit SLESEE > LIEconclusion: SEX (hmmmmmmmmmmmm)I thought SEE
based on this (and other things), I also don't think you're Ne ego.Well yeah, that's right I was totally confused and a little bit scared thinking *what the hell they want from me
Imagine that you are in a new environment and you know absolutely nothing about people you are talking with. They start asking questions so fast, completely not connected with anything and you don't know point of it. What would you do?
ILE was guessed for me too, but tbh, I don't really go crazy about those weird questions myself... I will just try to approach them in a practical manner.
though, ordinary questions thrown at me fast is no problem, I like stuff requiring fast reaction time. how about you in terms of that?
now, of course you could still be Ne if your english is *not* fluent. I don't know if it is fluent? (on a forum this can't really be determined and I don't remember how fast you'd answer in the chat.) if it's not fluent, it can definitely be a problem.
my mother is also often like this. (she's some SF type)
luckily I can easily explain to her how there's no point in worrying and she usually understands that. or if she fails to accept my reasoning, then I just brush her worry off, and then she realizes I really don't see a point in worrying and gives up.
Actually, that would be if people were arguing between SEE and SEI. Has anyone typed you SEI?
whoooops my bad
not at all
I know cps from real. But still I'm not sure what type he is.
Last edited by Voyager; 05-08-2012 at 09:19 PM.
This is a more compassionate approach than my SLE brother takes. He usually ends up stringing together a bunch of cuss words.my mother is also often like this. (she's some SF type)
luckily I can easily explain to her how there's no point in worrying and she usually understands that. or if she fails to accept my reasoning, then I just brush her worry off, and then she realizes I really don't see a point in worrying and gives up.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
Ooh, another sailor on the forum! Don't be SLEtbh i'm not sure about SLE, I don't "feel" this type
heh that must be funny. I can't swear in front of my mother because she's pretty religious - I don't want to offend her.This is a more compassionate approach than my SLE brother takes. He usually ends up stringing together a bunch of cuss words.
btw nice of you to say that I take a compassionate approach, but it isn't really. :S I tell her my disagreement in a direct way (either by a short logical argument or by just saying "nah"), if she doesn't get it, then phase 2 is brush it all off without even saying anything. that always works.
do you "feel" SEE or EIE any better? (I remember these were other guesses by people... I'm not trying to guess your type myself
Well, even if it isn't compassionate, it's at least less aggressive, lol. I think your way would probably be more effective in the long-term, actually. Also, I think that sort of worrying might be associated with weakor something.
"How could we forget those ancient myths that stand at the beginning of all races, the myths about dragons that at the last moment are transformed into princesses? Perhaps all the dragons in our lives are princesses who are only waiting to see us act, just once, with beauty and courage. Perhaps everything that frightens us is, in its deepest essence, something helpless that wants our love."
-- Rainer Maria Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet
yeah, it's effective =PWell, even if it isn't compassionate, it's at least less aggressive, lol. I think your way would probably be more effective in the long-term, actually. Also, I think that sort of worrying might be associated with weak
and yes, it could be Ni PoLR.
cps have/would you consider Gamma SF (ESI or SEE)?
yeah I could, not sure about ESI, cause I am totally disorganized person
what kind of help would you need in sorting out your life?yeah I could, not sure about ESI, cause I am totally disorganized person
well for what it's worth, the ESI i know best in real life is around your age, and he is also extremely disorganized and needs help sorting his life out. he's young and still has growing up to do, though; i think he may run his life more efficiently once he matures a bit.yeah I could, not sure about ESI, cause I am totally disorganized person
i don't know what you need help with, but one big thing with the ESI i know is that he has not yet learned to sort out his priorities, and it results in him not getting things done in an organized fashion, causing him a lot of stress and anxiety. when he is in a situation where a bit of structure is "forced" on him (e.g. a regular work schedule in which he always has reliable means of transportation to get to work), he accomplishes more and feels more productive.
another problem he has is that he tends to spend money very quickly and easily, and doesn't know how to make the best decisions with it. so then that results in the productive period in which he made money somewhat going to "waste".
you may or may not relate to all of this, of course. regardless, your photos reminded me him, which is one reason i VI'd you ESI
I need a person who has always some information about world/places. What is happening in politics, who has some news/information about places. A person who has no problems in focusing attention on very logical and long pieces of information cause I have problems when it comes to analyzing some facts, guessworks (especially at this) and can explain these in few words. A person who will not mislead me in information and will not be angry at me when I ask about explanation or repeat something (even several times).
yeah to me that sounds like you'd be Ethical rather than Logical. even the part about asking questions until you thoroughly understand the information given might be consistent with Te-seeking. from what i've seen Te-bases have no problems readily and confidently sharing what they know, giving advice, etc.
as a base (1st) function (LIE and LSE)
Extroverted logic as base function is manifested as a need to accumulate factual information, also from external sources such as books, second-hand information, etc, on matters of personal interest or of professional activity. This also gives these types confidence on being well-informed on the same matters, which enables them to enter arguments related to them with confidence on their knowledge, which may come across as arrogance to others. Another manifestation is an evaluation of external reality - work activities, world events, finances, procedures, personal relationships, conversations - from the point of view of factual accuracy and "making sense" and efficiency. It leads to an inclination to be proactive in increasing the efficiency and reasonableness of the external world, as well as a sense of self-worth connected on being involved and productive in activities seen as useful, profitable, or that increase one's knowledge base. To give out information that the individual knows not to be factually accurate is disturbing and avoided as much as possible.
ummmmm not sure about Fi1, tbh I am the last person in world who could say something like "that wasn't nice" and I am not also good at
People who are acting this way are in my eyes clowns and I just ignore them. I prefer a group of people where I don't have to care about words and actions because someone would felt hurt.
SLI confirm
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 05-12-2012 at 05:40 PM.
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
well, hmm SLI vs LSE, i will decide in the next days
Last edited by cps; 05-13-2012 at 10:34 AM.
screw it I am not LSE and not SLI, probbably ILE
ty very much everyone
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