Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
Yeah whatever, let's just do the easy thing. The world is what it is and if the world were to be not what it is then it wouldn't be what it is now or before when it was something else and then everything exploded because God came down from heaven with his army of aliens and Crazedrat was right all along.

How am I not thinking for myself? Because I agree with a certain model of social organization? I chose libertarianism because of its convincing power to me, its consistency and the historical evidence that supports it. Going through every specific practical problem separately will lead to unintended consequences. You have to have some consistency.
The only real consistency I see in the world are natural laws, and I could give a shit about libertarian-ism and its consistency and so called historical evidence(which I view as mere interpretation). Consistent and literal interpretation of the guiding principles of men has has always led to tyranny and it seems you're no more then what I thought you were, a closet fascist with the desire to impose some arbitrary set of standards on others "consistently" with little regard for human decency. You are ultimately your own worst enemy.

I view unintended consequences as inevitable, and I know the unintended consequences of the path you walk all too well, as history has shown well meaning leaders in their thirst for purity of doctrine, consistency, fear. Yes, let's make a wall to prevent all those unintended consequences. Your ideology is a prison.

If I know the law of nature and the laws of the universe, I can know more of the consequences of my actions and those are the only law I feel I need to remain consistent to. What do you want? Utopia in perpetuity? Heaven? Dystopia in perpetuity? My understanding of nature say that it is unlikely if not impossible.

Maybe you don't know what you want.

I don't solve problems one by one, maybe just the first time. I like to make tools to solve problem sets, and when you realize that business, government, academia, even religion are just tools humanity has created to solve problem sets. Unfortunately our tools break down, we don't learn how to use them, they don't solve new problems that have arisen, and they sometimes get misused. Tragic I know.

Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
here, now I'm thinking for myself, and solving problems individually, which is superior to having an over-arching model.
Smells like a system, sounds like centralization? Are you sure you know what you want?

Every problem is solved individually in practice, but the means and tools to solve the problem can be systematic. The sad thing is that although you claim to be a individualist or libertarian, you cannot disassociate yourself from some social organization of humanity and define yourself in those terms.

I believe the only thing that's ever freed man was the understanding of the world and our place it and the use of that understanding to improve the conditions of our fellow men and women. And I do this not out of some great sense of morality, but because the alternative is retarded. In between those moments of enlightenment; despair, misery, suffering and injustice is everywhere, you wade in the muck and roll up your sleeves and push thru and maybe even succeed(temporarily of course). No guarantees, plenty of unintended consequences, and you'll probably fail. And this is the hard path.

What's your path, repeat some words, promote some slogan?