Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
As soon as I get out of college I'll find an island and create an anarcho-capitalist society, happy?
Yes please do, I want to see the experiment and how it turns out.

Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
As I've said before, if people want a state, they will get one. Citing the existence of the state as its reason for being there is silly and unproductive. Everything that exists is natural, and yes has arisen over time, but so what? ******'s regime was natural, but should we advocate such a model? Seriously, what do you want, a five year plan for anarchism? The entire point is that I can't tell you how things will be organized except generally. If I was able to tell you, then why not have centralization?
States exists because they exist, there are reasons why they exist and I won't go into it as that's unproductive. Now whether it should or should not exist is a entirely different discussion and although not unproductive, not something I am going to make assumptions about. I know of plenty of reasons why a organization kinda of like a state might not need to exist.

1. Very few people
2. Heat death of the universe

When you do it, I will have other reason to believe you. So go do it.

Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
Just remember, your ideal state won't last forever, someone will change it. Once the idea of state power is legitimate, it will be continuously extended to more and more spheres. There is no balance between master and slave. Once someone can say, "because I said so" the wheel forever turns in that direction.
Stop strawmanning. I do not care about states, I do not believe in ideals. I do not care about it dying. It's a tool. To be used, no more, no less. Some tools are better then others. When you realize I don't care about the state anymore then I care about your fantasy, and that my opinion is purely a pragmatic choice for my personal benefit and well-being and maybe even others(and isn't this what capitalism is all about). All states die, so will I, I just want to have a good time and hopefully do something interesting and appreciated by others. I think states will arise after one dies, and I hope whatever advancement I made in organization methods and understanding of the world will make the world better and I hope people within that world will make advancement which will make organizations further in the future better. I don't believe in states, but I believe in a well run organization, benevolence, truth, peace, kindness, these are the kind of values I can practice.

Quote Originally Posted by ArchonAlarion View Post
Basically, you are claiming that I could be arguing any point as long as it's yours. Otherwise, I'll need to write a book detailing exactly how I'd personally bring it about. You on the other hand, can make any claim you want without backing it up because "supposedly" your statist philosophy has all the ready evidence of its "success" at hand. In truth, you merely describe what already exists without offering any model, and further you misshapenly describe it in the first place. Stop playing the status quo card: What you believe to be the case isn't even anyway. Give me a model or some theory. Tell me how state power will not be abused, or tell me how its abuse is better than the alternative.
The only model and theory I believe is evolution. And Nazi Germany failed that as did many flawed states and other organizations, but there are some places still around and some places doing better then others. I don't care about states, but I think your idea is weak and will likely fail to be put into practice. I don't care about states, I'm going to keep saying this until you get this thru your thick head. I do care about having a good time, kindness, benevolence, and they might even be "fit" behaviors, but I don't know that nor do I care whether I'm "fit" or "unfit".