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    I'll go first!

    1. Hopes: Trust vs. Mistrust (Oral-sensory, Birth-2 years)
    • Psychosocial Crisis: Trust vs. Mistrust
    2. Will: Autonomy vs. Shame & Doubt (Muscular-Anal, 2-4 years)
    • Psychosocial Crisis: Autonomy vs. Shame & Doubt
    3. Purpose: Initiative vs. Guilt (Locomotor-Genital, Preschool, 4-5 years)
    • Initiative vs. Guilt
    4. Competence: Industry vs. Inferiority (Latency, 5-12 years)
    • Psychosocial Crisis: Industry vs. Inferiority
    5. Fidelity: Identity vs. Role Confusion (Adolescence, 13-19 years)
    • Psychosocial Crisis: Identity vs. Role Confusion
    6. Love: Intimacy vs. Isolation (Young adulthood, 20-24, or 20-40 years)
    • Psychosocial Crisis: Intimacy vs. Isolation
    7. Care: Generativity vs. Stagnation (Middle adulthood, 25-64, or 40-64 years)

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    This seems waaaay too simplistic and kind of presumptuous to me. I think I started my "Care" phase as the main emphasis of my subconscious at around age 13, and my concerns about identity arose from this anxiety, peaking between 18 and 20, whence grew my concern with intimacy.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    This seems waaaay too simplistic and kind of presumptuous to me. I think I started my "Care" phase as the main emphasis of my subconscious at around age 13, and my concerns about identity arose from this anxiety, peaking between 18 and 20, whence grew my concern with intimacy.
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    Erikson states that each of these processes occur throughout the lifetime in one form or another, and he emphasizes these "phases" only because it is at these times that the conflicts become most prominent.
    I don't think these phases are supposed to be precise.
    And in this context care is not merely a subconscious thing but care as in taking responsibility of one's children and acts such as that as a full time occupation.

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    Eh.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    I don't think these phases are supposed to be precise.
    And in this context care is not merely a subconscious thing but care as in taking responsibility of one's children and acts such as that as a full time occupation.
    This is true. From recollection I believe he described the crisis as normative, as in that they are not necessarily universal, but that from his work as a psychoanalyst he observed them to be not unusual.

    Regarding the stages of development (from recollection again, I will check this) I believe, that they did not work as a simple linear progression, but that an individual could be at different stages with regards to developing different aspects of his or her identity.

    Erikson was very influential during his time, but he has not been without critics and as psychological methods and other theories have developed beyond and also in contrast to his. From what I understand he is still considered relevant by mainstream psychologists.
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    how are you answering these questions? how do you know which one to pick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kassie View Post
    how are you answering these questions? how do you know which one to pick?
    Exact-fucking-ly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kassie View Post
    how are you answering these questions? how do you know which one to pick?
    Know oneself. I answered the question the way I thought I should answer them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Know oneself. I answered the question the way I thought I should answer them.
    You sure are in a possession of exceptional memory. Besides, what the hell does this even mean:

    Erikson is credited with coining the term "Identity Crisis."[6] Each stage that came before and that follows has its own 'crisis', but even more so now, for this marks the transition from childhood to adulthood. This passage is necessary because "Throughout infancy and childhood, a person forms many identifications. But the need for identity in youth is not met by these."[7] This turning point in human development seems to be the reconciliation between 'the person one has come to be' and 'the person society expects one to become'.
    Such people have a false - construct - I or "ego," No one is born with this kind of "ego." This kind of split from conscious to unconscious is developed in childhood. It has to do with a shutting off instinct and ignoring sensual input. The result is that humans can not really arrive at logic. This ego is a fake. It often seeks to "find itself." It imagines it has become the "new me" and tries to construct a new act, for it is all ultimately an act that they never know they are faking until the "new me" realises it and replaces it with another act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    You sure are in a possession of exceptional memory. Besides, what the hell does this even mean:
    I think most people's first memories start ~ 4-6. You can also deduce. Al-through maybe it's not 100% accurate. There is other people's description of you from that age, which can be used as well. You mean you never asked or been told what you were like when you are young?

    I underwent some fairly interesting experiences when I was young(below 10) and I have some very memorable events which happened, as well as stories that have been told to me about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    You mean you never asked or been told what you were like when you are young?
    Sure I have been told, best part is I don't remember it, that is have no recollection of it happening. Besides, what I wrote in post #3 can be successfully applied to people on here and their socionics type "shifts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Know oneself. I answered the question the way I thought I should answer them.
    Do you have a pretentious koan for every post you make here?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Do you have a pretentious koan for every post you make here?
    Stop crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    It's ok, stop crying.
    ...huh?
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hkkmr View Post
    Stop crying.
    NICE EDIT

    BOY YOU SOUND LIKE A REAL MAN NOW

    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Most of these seem pretty trivial to me, though I'd say I'm still pretty deep in the throes of identity crisis even though I'm 27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by munenori2 View Post
    Most of these seem pretty trivial to me, though I'd say I'm still pretty deep in the throes of identity crisis even though I'm 27.
    I'm still trying to deal with Isolation/Intimacy although I'm quite a productive person otherwise. I only got 6 years 2 month left. I'm screweeeed!!!

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    0-2: Trust vs. Mistrust
    2-4: Autonomy vs. Shame & Doubt
    4-5: Initiative vs. Guilt
    5-12: Industry vs. Inferiority
    13-19: Identity vs. Role Confusion
    20-24: Intimacy vs. Isolation
    25-64: Generativity vs. Stagnation (on it)

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    I don't remember my childhood. I can't answer some of those questions not to mention read that wiki page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    I don't remember my childhood.
    I don't remember when I was two years old, but figure since I've always been trusting it must have started there.

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    The majority of us cant even answer #7.

    This is part of basic lifespan psychology. I like the general idea, but I hate when it becomes specific, such as anal. There are quite a few versions of this. I'm not going to answer the post because I think it is more useful to see as a spectrum of health, rather than seeing it as a logistics tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadae View Post
    I like the general idea, but I hate when it becomes specific, such as anal.
    I agree. I want to do everything simultaneously as well.

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