INTjs and feeling functions

[soggy-flakes]

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[Phaedrus]

I read the descriptions of these two functions and I find to be very unlike me yet I can sort of relate to although its not a particularly strong function.

What you say here is probably an argument for INTp (or maybe ISTp) rather than INTj. But I wouldn't consider it a very strong argument.

[Expat]

These two functions are often badly described and misunderstood, so it would be useful if you could say precisely why you relate more to than to .

[oyburger]

INTjs, how do these two feeling functions play out in your lives?

My understanding of this is still not great but from what I read, I do seem to associate more with then , not because necessarily describes me better, but that doesn't describe me much at all.

It can be said that I'm inclined to these sorts of things

the skill to find individual approach to the groups of people, to play "on the necessary strings" of human passions.
sensitiveness, drops in the moods, fervency, fanaticism on a global scale.
Control of emotionalism and power engineering of the associations.
artistic taste (entire spectrum of intonations, expressive pauses, significant views, rich mimicry) and intrigues

But the seeming lack of these things actually cause trouble in my life

the skill to understand, to estimate interrelations between themselves and by another person.
the rules of behavior, accepted in the relations between the concrete people.
the emotional estimation of its relation - sympathy, antipathy, confidence, admiration and so forth, etc. - to another person, his open expression
tendency toward the humanist ideals - philanthropy, mercy, good, pity, warm contact, friendship and so forth, etc
generally - the attitude of close people, ethical interaction with the familiar people, the morals of the connect together people.

Like I said, my understanding of all of this is rudimentary, so if this all comes out sounding like rubbish, then please disregard

[Hugo]

the difference between INTj and INTp is their enthusiasm (Fe).

INTps are realistic/skeptical about ideas which makes them seem pessimistic

INTjs are enthusiastic about ideas which make them optimistic

[Hugo]

are you over-the-top in you interaction with others, or passive?

[Hugo]

I think i phrased it wrong

Anyway, you are INTj

[Hugo]

Do you remeber i sent you that PM

you chose Si over Ni as describing you better, which means you are INTj

[Ms. Kensington]

These two functions are often badly described and misunderstood, so it would be useful if you could say precisely why you relate more to than to .

I don't care much for group norms. I trust my own moral code more.

i understand. i was just saying yesterday in the chat you mention 'established norm' to an INTj and its over. you're not gonna get the best response because it's empassioned.

so its like.. you get into distinctions of moral codes that are .. not very distinctive or useful.

[Hugo]

I've noticed that INTjs place a heavy reliance on proving something to themself.

An INTjs spiritual beliefs are based on logical arguments, whereas an INTps beliefs are not.

[FDG]

An INTjs spiritual beliefs are based on logical arguments, whereas an INTps beliefs are not.

The opposite is true in most cases.

[Hugo]

This confirms more to me that you are INTj

also look at this
http://the16types.info/forums/viewto...ight=acid+test

[Hugo]

Yes you are INTj.

I wouldn't say 5000 years, but rather the non-immediate future.

[Ms. Kensington]

An INTjs spiritual beliefs are based on logical arguments, whereas an INTps beliefs are not.

The opposite is true in most cases.

how so?

i think i am confused about this aspect of intps and intjs. I think what gaypog says is true for me.

[Hugo]

FDG is wrong.

[Hugo]

Also, i think INTps are more likely to submit to peer pressure than INTjs

[Hugo]

I think it has more to do with hidden agenda