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    A Biographical Sketch


    Anton Szandor LaVey (1930—1997) was the founder of the Church of Satan, the first organized church in modern times promulgating a religious philosophy championing Satan as the symbol of personal freedom and individualism. Unlike the founders of other religions, who claimed exalted “inspiration” delivered through some supernatural entity, LaVey readily acknowledged that he used his own faculties to synthesize Satanism, based on his understanding of the human animal and insights gained from earlier philosophers who advocated materialism and individualism. Concerning his role as founder, he said that, “If he didn’t do it himself, someone else, perhaps less qualified, would have.”


    http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/LaVeyBiography.html


    Strikes me as:
    Se/Ni
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    Irrational
    Introvert

    But on the whole I say SLE. With LSI or ILI in the background. Beta NF is not discounted, but not likely in my opinion.

    Love his observational writings.


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    I never thought SLE, but I would guess LSI or his dual the EIE. Maybe his work is a team project, Anton the LSI channeling Satan, the EIE. Thus we get a touch of both!

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    These books offer a wealth of information about his philosophy on life:

    Satan Speaks!
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/67415552/Satan-Speaks

    The Devil's Notebook
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/49479242/The-Devil-s-Notebook

    And an interview:
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    I have to agree with Maritsa. He does seem a Te type.

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    Agree with SLI.

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    ILI.. He speaks very monotonously for one. I don't get dual vibes at all, I reckon he looks abit like a caucasion wesley snipes who's ILI aswell .

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    His mansion had 13 rooms, allegedly. The walls were painted black, and the ceilings red. He drew red inverted pentacles on the walls, and decorated the rooms with skulls, a coffin, daggers, demonic statues, and a plastic owl. There was also a furry, stuffed figure that LaVey claimed on questionable provenance to be a werewolf.

    Most of what he called his life is pure myth invented to sell and gain more followers.

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    Ehh, I can't frigging facking "reply with quote". My point is, he was just a guy who sold titles for cash.

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    I don't care what that fruit claims. ToS and CoS is just hilarious. They have or had paying members just like any church and they did hand titles for cash or for free, for example , this site and handing types for free according to their abilities.

    Hey, Uncle Rob. Would like to chat a bit more with you.

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    Seems to be SLI... I think.
    About original SLE speculation.
    I found pretty much look a like person:

    This one is SLE, I think.
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Davis_Aurini
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anton_LaVey
    Thinking patterns are very different. definition, comparison, something about struggle, definition, tobacco, comparison, definition, alcohol. I can not find this in LaVey. Look is very similar.
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    Oh, easily SLE-Ti. The VI is flawless.

    Pink....SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/so



    Anton Lavey...SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/sp



    It fits organically....the differences facially are trivial (i.e lavey is male, pink is female...age differences). Lavey is sx/sp and Pink is sx/so. That's the most significant VI difference...his eyes are deeper set. But the deeper set eyes is a difference that can be seen in many contrasts between sx/sp and sx/so of other enneagram types.

    it also doesn't make a difference type wise that Anton Lavey was the head of the Church of Satan and Pink is a pop star. Those are trivial differences....just as you can find many types that have gained power in pop, you can find as many types with an interest in Satanism.

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    He was probably SLE. His daughter is most likely IEI sx first. She is an amazing woman now, despite her childhood, and she is spiritually sound. She was completely brainwashed by him. Pregnant at 13... :/

     




    Zeena's crisis of faith reached its highpoint when she learned that most of her father's self-created legend was based on lies and that many of his works were plagiarized. When jealousy and spite motivated Anton LaVey and his administrator Densley-Barton to actually endanger Zeena's life, she could no longer continue to cover up her progenitor's true character in good conscience. This behind the scenes tension should be kept in mind when viewing or hearing Zeena's interviews from that time.
    In 1990, Zeena publicly renounced and exposed the fraudulent personality cult she was born into. Her ex-family and the remaining followers of her deceased con-man father reacted to her resignation by indulging in a typical cult-like character assassination campaign against her. Drawing on her own triumph over these and other dysfunctional family experiences, Zeena, a professional bereavement counsellor, founded SLM’s public outreach program PHOENIX to help others in similar situations.


    Since 2004, PHOENIX provides spiritual healing for victims of exploitative pseudo-religious organisations, former gang members, whistle-blowing ex-employees of corrupt corporations and governmental agencies, relatives of the violently mentally ill, and survivors of all forms of institutional abuse, including secretly abused children and spouses of prominent personalities.


    In recent years Zeena has augmented her ongoing artistic work by transcribing various Buddhist texts for leading Vajrayana teachers and scholars. She is currently working on several solo recording projects. Between her teaching and consultation engagements, Zeena takes spiritual retreat twice a year to deepen her own meditative practice.

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    SLE. He's a showman that ripped off most of his philosophy from people like Ayn Rand.

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    SLE and a plagiarist

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    If SLI then the sensing subtype.

    If SLE then the introverted thinker subtype.

    I can easily envision both.

    Need more info.

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    I think LSI-Ti

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    I always thought he was EIE-Ni.

    It suprises me to read all the typings of him as an ST, to be quite honest.


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    SLE-Ti 8w9 sx/sp survived the final apocalypse years back. Clear VI for SLE-Ti.

    Se-Force has a psychological component as well as a physical component.
    His tactics for destabilizing religion was highly aggressive (The Satanic Bible; the Church of Satan)....about as forceful a tactic as you could get. Mavericks come in all functions...his whole Atheism thing and the way he pushed it just has a more aggressive and sharper edge to it, than say, ya know, Bruce Lee's school of Jeet Kune Do.

    Pink as SLE-Ti 8w7 sx/so did not survive the final apocalypse. She ended up SEE-Fi 9w8 sx/so.

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    My breakdowns have been looked at under a microscope and nobody (not even the so-called best minds, and believe me, when you talk about best minds, mine is right up there) could find a logical, structural conceptual flaw in it.

    Aestrivex tried for years, he couldn't do it. Years, and he gave up.
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    So Anton Lavey,
    Final Typing: SLE-Ti 8w9 sx/sp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    His tactics for destabilizing religion was highly aggressive (The Satanic Bible; the Church of Satan)....about as forceful a tactic as you could get.
    It was also a calculated publicity stunt - executed in a manner which I have a hard time seeing any other type than EIE doing.


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