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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Just EIE. It is true that I typed him Ni-Creative since always, Ni was what I could be confident about.

    You now already that I currently dismiss any subtype system, was that a rhetorical question?...
    I didn't know that before but now I do. It was not rhetorical. If people see him as Beta/Alpha then he's`a Beta with Alpha wing or Alpha with Beta wing.

    EIE-Ni leans toward Alpha, in the subtype system I use. See here: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...l=1#post848418
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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    I didn't know that before but now I do. It was not rhetorical. If people see him as Beta/Alpha then he's`a Beta with Alpha wing or Alpha with Beta wing.
    Sorry to scratch your painful spot, but you did know [1]. Also, you know I haven't typed - and I don't type - based on how "people see", trying to cram that grupthink bullshit down my throat just doesn't work. Have another look at my sig
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Sorry to scratch your painful spot, but you did know [1]. Also, you know I haven't typed - and I don't type - based on how "people see", trying to cram that grupthink bullshit down my throat just doesn't work. Have another look at my sig
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    Oh yeah, well if knowledge can't be erased, then I forgot.

    Nice quote, I'd add "if they ever recover their senses at all".
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    Indeed you need a cameraman with you all the time, to immortalize for posterity your priceless dramatic poses and unique changes of style. It is such a pity they get lost into oblivion, isn't it? What is the meaning of life then?...

    Gotcha!
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    ... Except he didn't actually say that. you did.
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    SLE > EIE > ILE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    You soppy idiot, try drinking a bottle of Clue:
    Alright, I forgive you this time, next time, I'm going to have fun with you, like real fun, and nothing and no one is going to stop me, except for two persons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurd View Post
    Alright, I forgive you this time, next time, I'm going to have fun with you, like real fun, and nothing and no one is going to stop me, except for two persons.
    And their names combined are Alcoholic Hallucinosis.

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    The finns are badass (speaking specifically about aqua, agarina, and so forth)

    I was just thinking about this the other day, how its fun to be able to communicate to people in other countries (fdg and others included). Also I found your video and you as a person to be likeable. The only thing that annoys me about you is how you seem to kind of have this cult following, but you can't be blamed for that, so I'm not going to blame you for it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
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    You got off cheaply this time, you lucky bas... dandy. We will meet again for you haz offended me type!
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    No idea where people get Ni creative from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    And their names combined are Alcoholic Hallucinosis.
    Actually Henry Belafonte. Actually no, combined it is "I like philosophy, and ignore threads about food and pokemon."

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    Quote Originally Posted by octo View Post
    I thought my questions were pretty open-ended, but you still spent < 1 min average on each one...worst Ne-base ever?

    Son, I am disappoint.
    But I'm shy with my English!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ineffable View Post
    You got off cheaply this time, you lucky bas... dandy. We will meet again for you haz offended me type!

    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    The finns are badass (speaking specifically about aqua, agarina, and so forth)
    Our deltas are interesting, alphas make sense, gammas are not greedy and can even be socialists, betas are yet the undefinend betas.
    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    I was just thinking about this the other day, how its fun to be able to communicate to people in other countries (fdg and others included). Also I found your video and you as a person to be likeable. The only thing that annoys me about you is how you seem to kind of have this cult following, but you can't be blamed for that, so I'm not going to blame you for it lol.
    I thought you didn't like me. And I think I'm partly responsible about people that 'idolize' me or whatever. But I see it as Fe HA win!

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeSeeCold View Post
    I didn't know that before but now I do. It was not rhetorical. If people see him as Beta/Alpha then he's`a Beta with Alpha wing or Alpha with Beta wing.
    Strong Ti-subtype might be just enough to do that.
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    Having an online crush on half of the t16t IEIs; type related or are they just that awesome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    I thought you didn't like me.
    Not the case at all, I'm frequently in a bad mood - but I don't think I've ever said anything negative directed specifically at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveLucidDreamz View Post
    Not the case at all, I'm frequently in a bad mood - but I don't think I've ever said anything negative directed specifically at you.
    I thought you might just be like that. But, yes, there were no direct insults, though it could have also meant that you found it wiser to be in truce as I'm a cult leader and all!

    Having a cult reminded me of the prophecy in my first typing thread by NBS:
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    Yeah. Mr. Irony can post here all he wants now and say he's whatever type, but I'm going to see him as SLE barring further completely contradictory evidence.
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    Totally. I just cant see him hanging here really. I bet he is here to feed his ego by more compliments. If you keep feeding him. he will be here =)
    The Prophecy has been fulfilled.


    But you don't have to stop feeding me.
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    Lol




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    I realized that maybe I shouldn't be talking about power structures if I'd want more evidence that conflicts the current SLE typing. It would be counterbalancing to pick a ILE-ish topic on the next video.

    Yes, there will be more of them.

    I'm thinking about removing the video because I stammered so much..
    Last edited by Aquagraph; 02-18-2012 at 04:05 PM.
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    Mark this post constructive if you want me to add you to my chart of diplomatic relations. I'm gonna publish it by editing this post so I won't be bumping.

    Comradeship:
    NBS, Agarina

    Accepted to join in military alliance:
    Gilly, woofwofl, octo

    At war:
    Saberstorm, Reuben, maritsa, Yaaroslav

    Seeking to form an alliance:
    kassie, bionicgerbil, pinkcanary, Ekpyrosos,glam, Ashton, Pa3s

    Alliance:
    octo, Gilly, Jessica129, Typhon, Radio, Allie, GuavaDrunk, BulletsAndDoves, lemontrees

    Neutral:
    Starfall, EyeSeeCold, phtalate, Mountain Dew, Slacker, hkkmr, FDG, Absurd,

    Under the lens, no perceived threat:
    Aerorobyn, HaveLucidDreamz, munenori2, FoxOnStilts, Mediator Kam

    Under the lens, possible threats:
    labocat, Galen, thePirate, ScarlettLux, Khola, CatKingCole, crazedratPULSE

    Uneasy truce:
    Director Abbie

    The forum sun; automatic alliance, no camp conflicts:
    dolphin

    Comradeship means that the participants acknowledge the same enemies and on the most influential alliances, they also typically share values.
    Alliance is close to friendship. At war = to be tread upon if amusing, ego confirmers as I = the wrath of my enemies. Military alliance is a separate wing of Comradeship and functions like Comradeship. Dolphin is Dolphin.
    Neutrals can be likable but won't be owed no alliance.

    Whatever I am, I have a strong sense of Aristocracy, but I believe that even alphas can act that way. Deltas and betas are just a lot more prone to it.

    Also,
    making pointless charts: Alpha
    put people in boxes and make it public: Beta

    [Edit: GuavaDrunk: do you mean to use allegiance or alliance?]
    Last edited by Aquagraph; 02-19-2012 at 12:32 PM.
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    DEAR AQUAGRAPH,
    YOU ARE SLE. DEAL WITH IT.

    Also the stammering is cute in a way, lol, don't take it down!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    I realized that maybe I shouldn't be talking about power structures if I'd want more evidence that conflicts the current SLE typing. It would be counterbalancing to pick a ILE-ish topic on the next video.
    That's how social instinct manifests. Agarina mentioned that she believes you're sx/so. You're kind of similar to Gilly in this respect, the way both of you put others into groups (link), him being sx/so as well:

    Social Instinct: ... Within that social instinct, however, are many other implicit imperatives, and primary among them is the understanding of "place" within a hierarchical social structure. This is as true for dogs and gorillas as it is for human beings. Thus, the desire for attention, recognition, honor, success, fame, leadership, appreciation, and the safety of belonging can all be seen as manifestations of the Social instinct.
    ...
    Social instinct is attuned to hierarchy and possesses political awareness. (Source)
    That's not Aristocracy though. I get typed into Aristocratic quadra, for example, but being so-last I perceive people as individuals rather than mentally putting them into groups of thinking of them in terms of social hierarchies. Though silly socionics stereotypes say otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jenna View Post
    DEAR AQUAGRAPH,
    YOU ARE SLE. DEAL WITH IT.

    Also the stammering is cute in a way, lol, don't take it down!
    yeah, now that he's got an allegiances list up he's such a SLE - like it's just too obvious now lol

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    Going to make a few replies and stop posting in this thread, don't want to ruin this game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker View Post
    You type yourself as SLE, right? I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a strong opinion, either, but I rarely do.
    He self-typed as ILE in this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    I'd say if you're going to corroborate inductive reasoning as a tendency of Result types, then you're making a good case for Aquagraph being SLE.
    I wouldn't be making a case for it since Aqua simply doesn't think like one. He just breaks the typical stereotypes of "alpha dweebs" and alpha NTs being socially inept video-game loving nerds, likely why both him and hkkmr get typed as beta.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashton View Post
    Eh? Sounds like the author of the article you excerpted flipped deduction and induction, or that's a mistranslation.

    Deductive reasoning is usually conceived as going from general → specific, inductive reasoning as specific → general.
    Words "general/specific" have different meaning in context of socionics cognitive styles than how they are used in that article. In context of cognitive styles, specific -> general denotes movement from smaller scale, from details to "bigger picture" thinking. In that Wikipedia article "general example -> specific conclusion" means movement from obvious, commonly accepted axioms (examples) towards a particular conclusion derived from those axioms.

    Movement from specific to general i.e. from details onto bigger picture thinking in terms of cognitive styles is assigned to Evolutionary/Process types such as ILE: "Evolutionary types see small to large. Details are distinct. Scale is specific and precise like geographical map. ... Reasoning flows in the direction of simple to complex." Comparing what Aqua does in his reasoning as Ekpy/korp has described it: "first from a very close range and then zoom outward to encompass the bigger picture" IT'S A MATCH. SLEs think very differently.

    You have also omitted some crucial words from that definition of deductive logic that actually provide the much needed context. Deductive reasoning isn't defined as going from "general -> specific" but from "general examples -> specific conclusion". If some of Aqua's writing is examined that's exactly what he does. In this post, for example, he gives some examples that demonstrate similarities in the wizzard archetype ("Gandalf is based on Väinämöinen", "Gandalf mainly got it's inspirations on Merlin", "Later on, came Albus Dumbledore") and then he finishes it off with a conclusion: "We're culturally trapped in archetypes". This style of reasoning "example, example, example -> conclusion", is attributed to Process types i.e. ILE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Neutral: Absurd
    Laughed hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by siuntal View Post
    That's not Aristocracy though. I get typed into Aristocratic quadra, for example, but being so-last I perceive people as individuals rather than mentally putting them into groups of thinking of them in terms of social hierarchies. Though silly socionics stereotypes say otherwise.
    Ahh, but so do I; my fairness and even innocence in terms of internally distinguishing or segregating racial or sociocultural groups is something I'm actually very glad of, and thankful to my parents for, after having come across all types of bigotry and ridiculousness over the course of my life. But this is only possible with an innate sense of what these groups really are, where their boundaries lie, and how they may or may not be crossed. It's an implicit sensibility that you might not even recognize in yourself.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    Being convinced is not being correct.
    Perception is reality, bitch

    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Perception is reality, bitch
    A predictably egoistic, facile, and self-disclosing response from a tryhard trafficker in empty cliche and false witness. It's even funnier that you'd personally intercept and object to a factual reminder I'd implicitly addressed to both someone other than yourself as well as to the general good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    This pretty much perfectly describes the typical SLE attitude towards social/group dynamics. Sizing others up immediately, wanting to be in control but behind the scene, reserving the last word for themselves. Even SLEs who are very personable, and for whom amiability and friendliness are obviously priorities over "being the man," these characteristics are visible. I was at a fire party a few nights ago and this one SLE kid was somewhat new to the group (I'm not in this group; my friends and I spin with them occasionally because one of my friends knows a few of them, but they seem like overly cliquey to me, mostly rich kids who do nothing except spend their parents' money on drugs and fests, so I avoid making the merger; not really my crowd). He sort of spotted me out of my group of friends and made obviously deliberate efforts to get to know me quickly. He was really just a nice guy, just wanting to be my friend and talk and share poi moves and whatnot, but I could still tell that, knowingly or not, he had spotted me as the implicit "leader" of our little group of friends, and was making envoys.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Aqua I think your next video should be on your personal philosophy and how you see the world. That is a pretty stereotypical potentially NeTi wankfest topic that should make your internal dispositions more obvious.

    And please, do be honest.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Aqua I think your next video should be on your personal philosophy and how you see the world. That is a pretty stereotypical potentially NeTi wankfest topic that should make your internal dispositions more obvious.
    Hey a great idea! I'll look for the necessary terminology and make one.
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    Tadaa, someone WILL have Ne vibes due to this video:

    I was at a loss of words and now I have to add that what I meant is that the impact energy is released when the phone goes into pieces. It was planned thusly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekpyrosos View Post
    A predictably egoistic, facile, and self-disclosing response from a tryhard trafficker in empty cliche and false witness. It's even funnier that you'd personally intercept and object to a factual reminder I'd implicitly addressed to both someone other than yourself as well as to the general good.
    Empty cliche? False witness? What? I was just drawing an equally absurd parallel to the accusatory nature of your statement, which struck me as presumptuous.
    But, for a certainty, back then,
    We loved so many, yet hated so much,
    We hurt others and were hurt ourselves...

    Yet even then, we ran like the wind,
    Whilst our laughter echoed,
    Under cerulean skies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Comradeship:

    Accepted to join in military allegiance:

    At war:

    Seeking to form an alliance:

    Alliance:

    Neutral:

    Under the lens, no perceived threat:

    Under the lens, possible threats:

    Uneasy truce:
    This makes me think of if the forum ever had a full on war. I mean the same thing already goes on obscurely, but full-on would be interesting.
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    Funny, that's what most people irl think because of my sweet face. Then, I bite. People never expect it coming from me, but little do they know...

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    IMPREGNATE ME NOW OH GREAT ONE. WE WILL HAVE THE PERFECT CULT!!!


    Aqua you look like my ex. Also, if you're SLE, there's no way I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerorobyn View Post
    Funny, that's what most people irl think because of my sweet face. Then, I bite. People never expect it coming from me, but little do they know...
    You just barked. You do know what they say about dogs that bark?

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    IMPREGNATE ME NOW OH GREAT ONE. WE WILL HAVE THE PERFECT CULT!!!
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    Aqua you look like my ex. Also, if you're SLE, there's no way I am.
    Ti-Subtype and E7 can make quite the difference. And talking to a fucking lens using non-native language to me.

    So.. no Ne ego suspicions so far from the last video. It can mean a few things:
    People aren't as excited watching these videos as I'm making them
    People that perceived the Ne ego are too proud to admit that they were wrong before with their Se ego declaration.
    I have misunderstood the concept of Ne.

    Oh and the diplomacy chart contained the term "Allegiance" which I had somehow seen synonymous for "Alliance". I corrected it as I don't like to see any of you as minions or the like.
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    Honestly that just solidified my SLE typing lol. No Ne at all, but lots of Ni dual seeking was obvious.

    Just pointing out you were talking about metaphors, symbolism... In fact I believe the question was something about your views on life and you immediately went towards an Ni heavy answer, even though the question was open ended (that's the point though I guess.) So yes, totally Ni valuing. I will watch the video again to be more clear though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerorobyn View Post
    Funny, that's what most people irl think because of my sweet face. Then, I bite. People never expect it coming from me, but little do they know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    So.. no Ne ego suspicions so far from the last video.
    Much of what you spoke of there I relate to the Ni/Se-heavy concepts of Heraclitus, such as the harmonization of conflicting opposites1 within a universal order of Being2 posessing a causal flow of Becoming3 that can be tapped into intuitively but not necessarily rationalized4. Further, there is your recent game of dividing forumites into camps of allies and opponents, a useful means to the end of determining not just group but also individual natures. From this I'll argue that this grants your signature to Heraclitus' maxim, "War is the father of all,"5 for it is through the collision of differing and opposing things that the old gives way to the new and the new is made from the old, and through this all things are made known, on and on6.

    Regarding the above, I cannot rightfully deny other IEs' usefulness as vehicles for arriving at the same destinations. However, in my view, the manner in which these images are discovered and constructed (by Uncle Cleetus at least) marks them as the products of a Decisive mind. So for the purpose of this exercise, the fact that echoes of his thoughts reside in yours, I deem this Potentially Significant. Onward...

    In a recent conversation you claimed to practice chaos magic with an IEI confrere, and that you do this to hack the brain and so attain to a higher mode of perception and being. That is, you apply esoteric knowledge to short-circuit routine causality in order to acquire Powers7. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your brief description left me with the impression that though you are a full participant in these transcendental bootstrappings, your friend plays the psychopomp's role. That is, while you aim to realize certain experiences and goals, it's your IEI pal who sees the hidden way forward and who guides you along that spiritual path. This is arguably a manifestation of Ni-seeking in you.

    Supposing I'm reading everything correctly then you appear to exhibit Se as a valued function and I don't see much I'd regard as Ne.

    1. Enantiodromia; antinomy/paradox; dialectical monism: "Men do not know how that which is drawn in different directions harmonises with itself. The harmonious structure of the world depends upon opposite tension like that of the bow and the lyre."
    2. Logos, akin to Tao:
      • "Logos is day and night, winter and summer, war and peace, surfeit and hunger."
      • "Of this Word’s being forever do men prove to be uncomprehending, both before they hear and once they have heard it. For although all things happen according to this Word they are like the unexperienced experiencing words and deeds such as I explain when I distinguish each thing according to its nature and declare how it is. Other men are unaware of what they do when they are awake just as they are forgetful of what they do when they are asleep."
    3. Panta rhei; Homeorhesis:
      • "All is flux, nothing stays still."
      • "The way up and the way down are one and the same."
    4. Hen Pan, the inscrutible unity of the All:
      • "From all things one and from one all things."
      • "He who does not expect the unexpected will not find it, since it is trackless and unexplored."
      • "Nature is wont to hide herself."
    5. On the necessity of conflict:
      • "We must recognize that war is common and strife is justice, and all things happen according to strife and necessity. War is the father of all and king of all, who manifested some as gods and some as men, who made some slaves and some freemen."
      • "Opposition brings concord. Out of discord comes the fairest harmony."
    6. "As the same thing in us is living and dead, waking and sleeping, young and old. For these things having changed around are those, and conversely those having changed around are these."
    7. This also calls to mind the left-handed occult practices of some devotees to Shiva and his consort Kali, such as those employed by Aghoris and other tantric Shaivite sects. However, though I'd love to connect these two deities of Existence and Change with Se and Ni, my familiarity with the Hindoo is only glancing, and so there's no need to climb out further along this shaky conjectural branch until I'm able to grasp what fruits are available to my reach.

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    Damn it, Ekpy. Whatever it is you do when you explicate stuff to me, you're successful.

    Agarina (on acid) read that post and wondered how can your dual be a Ti PoLR dumb bitch.

    The IEI you mentioned DID lead me in a spiritual way and we practiced chaos magic BUT not together. But he's clearly more fluent with it.

    ++Because left-hand path was mentioned.

    On an unrelated note, if you look at the voting results, you'll find the first vote on the option:"Something else (please specify)". The voter probably forgot to mention that she types me SEE, if you know what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Damn it, Ekpy. Whatever it is you do when you explicate stuff to me, you're successful.
    Hot diggity dog.

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    Agarina (on acid) read that post and wondered how can your dual be a Ti PoLR dumb bitch.
    Feed her some Hannah Arendt or Origen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    The IEI you mentioned DID lead me in a spiritual way and we practiced chaos magic BUT not together. But he's clearly more fluent with it.
    Shades of rat and strrrng's recent boxing match.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    ++Because left-hand path was mentioned.
    This 6-flick series might be of interest if you've got the time:



    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    On an unrelated note, if you look at the voting results, you'll find the first vote on the option:"Something else (please specify)". The voter probably forgot to mention that she types me SEE, if you know what I mean.
    Ah, carry an Object at all times just to be safe, but say no more lest we awaken the Beast.

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