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    You know what it is...



    Rick -- ISTJ?
    Shane -- ISTP?
    Lori
    Andrea
    Glenn
    Carl
    Daryl
    Hershel
    Carol
    T-Dog

    That's all I got.

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    I could have sworn there was another thread, but there's some typings in this one. Ironically I just woke up from a freaky zombie dream. It was kind of annoying because I had a zombie pinned and I kept yelling for someone else to come over and bash its brains out but no one would, so I had to keep elbowing it in the back of its head until it looked like a hamburger pizza. Of course, by then about 30 zombies busted open the door to the gate and we were all pretty much doomed.
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    My present guesses:

    Rick Te-SLI
    Shane Se-SLE
    Andrea Se-SEE
    Dale Fi-EII
    Daryl Si-SLI
    Lori ILE?
    Maggie Fi-SEE
    T-Dog ???
    Glenn ILI?
    Herschel Fi-valuing

    I liked Rick's solution at the end of the last episode. Very practical. Hopefully everyone but Maggie and Andrea die before the season ends and they spend the last few episodes lezzing out on a beach after the zombies have all rotted away.

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    ^^ and Carol-- EII

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    Dale is DEAD.
    and it's Carl's fault--

    Anyone keeping up with the latest episodes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    Anyone keeping up with the latest episodes?
    Nah, no time, although I thought it was Gilly who posted this but it was Silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    Dale is DEAD.
    and it's Carl's fault--

    Anyone keeping up with the latest episodes?

    WOW...gee thanks. I guess I dont have to watch that latest episode....

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackburry View Post
    ^^ and Carol-- EII
    Do you consider: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
    DO YOU CONSIDER: YOU CAN NOT MISTAKE?
    (You words - doesn't matter. The matter is - your deeds)
    Anyone who would dare argue with me should be able to pass the test on the basis of Socionics. Otherwise, he will be recognized as a boor.
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    Bump.
    Mostly agree with the typings ITT, plus minus a few additions:

    Dale: Ne-ENFp
    Daryl: Ni-INTp
    Lori: Goddamn she's annoying.
    Maggie: Fi-ESFp
    Glenn: Fe-INFp
    Herschel: Fi-INFj

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    Allegedly they're pulling out the stops for season 3 and it'll be as hardcore as the comicbook, whatever the fuck that means (haven't read it).

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    Found on the nets today:



    Quote Originally Posted by Korpsy Knievel View Post
    Allegedly they're pulling out the stops for season 3 and it'll be as hardcore as the comicbook, whatever the fuck that means (haven't read it).
    Well, no, they didn't. I stopped watching after the second half of season 3 resumed. Fuck this show.

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    From my recollection the green area was larger, but the sentiment is respectable.

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    Someone better lose an arm and get it replaced with a fire axe or something then. I'm kind of bored with the show, but that's probably because all the characters suck.

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    OK.

    A) Yaarroslav quoted me. and I, sir, am honored. (I've never read any of your posts, beyond this one that you quoted me, but I've heard about you).

    B) HOW can you hate Maggie and Glen?

    C) I think the show is still great. I'm easy to please though- ( I watch Girls, though that show really is going downhill)

    D) Andrea should be killed off pronto. The governor should be slaughtered.

    WHO'S WITH ME?

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    The second half of the third season is starting to get interesting after the lackluster second season. I'm not sure what else they could do after the third season though to keep it interesting. It's a decent show, but Breaking Bad is far superior to it overall imo.
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    the new season is really epic with all the diverging plot lines.

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    Has anyone played the games by any chance? It might be impossible to type the protagonists, but I believe they have certain characteristics no matter what your dialogue choices are.

    Kenny - SLE
    Clem - IxI? IP temperment, Ni/Se valuing
    Lee - ESI?

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    <3 Daryl <3

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    Respect <-> Deanna

    She could have been afraid and prolonged her death or even killed herself, but she embraced her fate instead by taking out as many zombies as she could, reducing the burden on everyone else, and even distracting the zombies while they got away. I sorta wish she hadn't died; would have made an interesting character. Seemed like one of the few that could handle their frightening world without losing their mind.

    And um, socionics something something.
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    I started watching this again recently up to the end of season 5. My take on the character types:

    Rick Grimes: SLI-Te
    Daryl: SLI-Si
    Glenn: Beta, not SLE
    Carl: ???
    Carol: IEE-Fi
    Maggie: Se ego
    Michonne: Gamma Introvert
    Sasha: ???
    Beth: IEI-Fe
    Hershel: EII-Fi
    Andrea: ESI-Se
    Rosita: IEE?
    Lori: ???
    Abraham: LSX
    Eugene: ILI-Te
    Tyreese: EII?
    Shane: SLE-Ti
    The Governor: LIE-Te
    Gabriel: EII?
    Dale: EII-Ne
    Bob: ESE-Si
    Morgan: EII-Fi
    Merle: SLE-Se
    Jessie: ESFx
    Deanna: LSE-Te
    Deanna's husband: LII-Ti
    Gareth: XIE-Ni
    Officer Dawn: LSI-Se
    T-Dog: ???
    Noah: ???
    Tara: EII-Ne
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    Rick - SLI
    Andrea - SEE or ESI
    Michonne - ILI
    Dale - IEE
    Daryl - SLI
    Lori - I love her but I have no idea about her type. LIE? EIE?
    Maggie - SEE
    Glenn - LII
    Herschel - EII
    Carol - IEI?
    The Governor - EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by yifflord View Post
    Rick - SLI
    Andrea - SEE or ESI
    Michonne - ILI
    Dale - IEE
    Daryl - SLI
    Lori - I love her but I have no idea about her type. LIE? EIE?
    Maggie - SEE
    Glenn - LII
    Herschel - EII
    Carol - IEI?
    The Governor - EIE
    I'm just having a hard time envisioning Michonne as an introverted intuitive that is not a sensor. Her characterization portrays her as having a distinct lack of insight into the future - which was why she was so attracted to the walled Alexandria and its visionary leader, Deanna. There she felt a sense of safety and belonging. Out in the wilds Michonne is extremely practical and a moment by moment problem solver, hardly thinking about the possibility of a future. In my view, she is the female version of Daryl and so another SLI.

    Having Glenn and Maggie as conflictors doesn't really make a whole lot of sense?

    Ryk seems too duty bound for an irrational delta. His principles are what drives him, very different from the independent Daryl.

    Dr. Denise - IEE. Some duality between her and Daryl, culminating in her "I can survive here too" speech - right before the arrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    I'm just having a hard time envisioning Michonne as an introverted intuitive that is not a sensor. Her characterization portrays her as having a distinct lack of insight into the future - which was why she was so attracted to the walled Alexandria and its visionary leader, Deanna. There she felt a sense of safety and belonging. Out in the wilds Michonne is extremely practical and a moment by moment problem solver, hardly thinking about the possibility of a future. In my view, she is the female version of Daryl and so another SLI.
    I had a similar thought, but there are moments where her intuition shines. The time she knocked out Rick because she knew it was the only way to help him win the town over later. Or how easily she saw through the Governor before everyone else did. She's a bit more standoffish than Daryl is too, like she's always thinking about what's going on, trying to get a read on the current situation or the people around her, kind of removed from everything, whereas Daryl is pretty carefree in general and really just plays things as they come. So my opinion or whatever, but I don't think ILI is a bad typing for her (but neither is SLI).

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeling View Post
    I had a similar thought, but there are moments where her intuition shines. The time she knocked out Rick because she knew it was the only way to help him win the town over later. Or how easily she saw through the Governor before everyone else did. She's a bit more standoffish than Daryl is too, like she's always thinking about what's going on, trying to get a read on the current situation or the people around her, kind of removed from everything, whereas Daryl is pretty carefree in general and really just plays things as they come. So my opinion or whatever, but I don't think ILI is a bad typing for her (but neither is SLI).
    The circumstances of having to be on constant vigilance has probably shaped her persona somewhat. Are those instances moments that are a result of being hyper vigilant, or are they true intuitive insights into events? Recall Michonne was responsible for keeping Andrea alive and teaching her how to survive as a tough individualist. Michonne has a kind of brutal vulnerability. It seems easier to me to fit the SLI stereotype to Michonne than it would be to change the stereotype of ILI to fit her character.

    On another note, does anyone else find her relationship with Ryk creepy and awkward? Chemistry = 0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    The circumstances of having to be on constant vigilance has probably shaped her persona somewhat. Are those instances moments that are a result of being hyper vigilant, or are they true intuitive insights into events? Recall Michonne was responsible for keeping Andrea alive and teaching her how to survive as a tough individualist. Michonne has a kind of brutal vulnerability. It seems easier to me to fit the SLI stereotype to Michonne than it would be to change the stereotype of ILI to fit her character.

    On another note, does anyone else find her relationship with Ryk creepy and awkward? Chemistry = 0.
    I was like WTF when they hooked up. That was just somehow crammed into the plot and right after Rick's love interest dies in front of him. He moved on pretty quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    I'm just having a hard time envisioning Michonne as an introverted intuitive that is not a sensor. Her characterization portrays her as having a distinct lack of insight into the future - which was why she was so attracted to the walled Alexandria and its visionary leader, Deanna. There she felt a sense of safety and belonging. Out in the wilds Michonne is extremely practical and a moment by moment problem solver, hardly thinking about the possibility of a future. In my view, she is the female version of Daryl and so another SLI.

    Having Glenn and Maggie as conflictors doesn't really make a whole lot of sense?

    Ryk seems too duty bound for an irrational delta. His principles are what drives him, very different from the independent Daryl.

    Dr. Denise - IEE. Some duality between her and Daryl, culminating in her "I can survive here too" speech - right before the arrow.
    I realised that I was typing Maggie and Glenn as conflictors but I went ahead with it b/c Glenn and Maggie don’t make sense to me. I typed Glenn as LII before Maggie was introduced and I never thought that their dynamic was natural, nor could I figure out how on earth they worked effectively as a couple.

    What would you type Glenn as? ILI?

    Rick - I never thought that him being principle-bound excludes him from SLI, but I would not argue with LSE. Process > Result makes a lot more sense now that you mention it.

    I haven’t actually gotten up to watching the arc with Deanna. @strangeling pretty much covered what I think with Michonne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yifflord View Post
    I realised that I was typing Maggie and Glenn as conflictors but I went ahead with it b/c Glenn and Maggie don’t make sense to me. I typed Glenn as LII before Maggie was introduced and I never thought that their dynamic was natural, nor could I figure out how on earth they worked effectively as a couple.

    What would you type Glenn as? ILI?

    Rick - I never thought that him being principle-bound excludes him from SLI, but I would not argue with LSE. Process > Result makes a lot more sense now that you mention it.

    I haven’t actually gotten up to watching the arc with Deanna. @strangeling pretty much covered what I think with Michonne.
    What if a back up typing for Maggie is ESI category? With her and Glenn dualizing as the rationals. Glenn has to much positive foresight, with Maggie being the stern sensor requiring Glenn's vision. I just see their bond as romanticism punctuated by open pragmatism which I personally associate with LSE/ESI duals.

    I have never personally met a so principle bound SLI, but I'm sure its possible. I was referring to Ti- principles though. For instance in Ryk's own mind: "being the strong leader that believes all people are good just because, the rule of law is correct and I personally stand for justice, therefor my choices are correct". Part of Ryk's arc is the defeat of all that he stands for and the person he becomes, right or wrong.

    Edit: alternatively, Glenn as IEI and Maggie as SLE. Regardless I see Maggie as a sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    What if a back up typing for Maggie is ESI category? With her and Glenn dualizing as the rationals. Glenn has to much positive foresight, with Maggie being the stern sensor requiring Glenn's vision. I just see their bond as romanticism punctuated by open pragmatism which I personally associate with LSE/ESI duals.

    I have never personally met a so principle bound SLI, but I'm sure its possible. I was referring to Ti- principles though. For instance in Ryk's own mind: "being the strong leader that believes all people are good just because, the rule of law is correct and I personally stand for justice, therefor my choices are correct". Part of Ryk's arc is the defeat of all that he stands for and the person he becomes, right or wrong.

    Edit: alternatively, Glenn as IEI and Maggie as SLE. Regardless I see Maggie as a sensor.
    If I had to choose between SLE/IEI and LIE/ESI for Glenn and Maggie I'd go with the former; Maggie seems very much like an irrational type to me as well as the initiator and the extravert.

    As for Rick, I didn't see him in this way. To me, the majority of his arc has been about naively trying to enforce Delta sentiments in a world that is no longer fit for a Delta way of life and losing himself in the process. His leadership and general way of thinking is extremely receptive to input from Herschel (who I see as EII but idk if we agree on that point), and he's reluctant to heed protective warnings/foresight in favour of the potential of the individual and his actions' impacts on his own moral cleanliness. Decisions he makes that go against this are painful for him as a part of an arc that involves both breaking down of what he strove to stand for and the defeat of goodness/'loss of humanity' from a more metatextual perspective.

    And this is only tangential, but he doesn't strike me as a Fe-receptive character (while Glenn does, but it might be an actor overlap thing).

    I do agree that his arc is about the defeat of all that he stands for! It's such a beautiful turn of events and something I'm really looking forward to the show exploring in full with Herschel's death signalling the death of the show's moral compass and with no replacement for the Herschel archetype in sight. This was especially in-your-face on part of the writers with the introduction of Alexandria as a parallel to the community they had at the jail. I can't wait for this to take a Breaking Bad character arc kind of turn (but no spoilers pls, I haven't read the comics and don't want to be disappointed if this doesn't happen).

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    OMG GLENN

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    Quote Originally Posted by strangeling View Post
    OMG GLENN
    I can't believe they fake killed him off only to real kill him off two seconds later. What was the point of that emotional turmoil!!!!

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    I was kind of wondering that too. Turns out they wanted Glenn to say his last words. It was just so gruesome, lol.

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    Someone asked me what character I'm most like on the show and I said "Carol probably" about a season ago.
    After today's episode, that's more true than ever.

    What's do you all think about Carol's type?

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    The deaths are too predictable to me - like they underestimate other people's Ni. They are so predictable in fact, that they had to come up with some plot contrivance and 'who did he kill' as a season finale. (but who Neegan killed ended up being very predictable anyway) That is a sign of poor writing to me. I get that people like this show because it's dark and not campy and faggy like something I would enjoy - and they get off on thinking they are superior to me, but really... I wish the deaths weren't so predictable. WoW even me and k0rpsey ended up agreeing with each other kinda. I wish the show relied more on good ideas than tone itself.

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    Just an observation I wanted to share.

    I think in season 7 they have provided a good example of Se vs Si valuing in how Rick's group chooses to deal with the saviors vs how The Kingdom deals with them. Rick's group is using the Se approach, doing anything they can to resist the saviors even though they know it will mean people dying, while The Kingdom instead uses the Si approach and tries to appease the saviors the best the can and keep conflict to a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Just an observation I wanted to share.

    I think in season 7 they have provided a good example of Se vs Si valuing in how Rick's group chooses to deal with the saviors vs how The Kingdom deals with them. Rick's group is using the Se approach, doing anything they can to resist the saviors even though they know it will mean people dying, while The Kingdom instead uses the Si approach and tries to appease the saviors the best the can and keep conflict to a minimum.
    The Kingdom is a type of Se hierarchy with Negan at the top. He tries to break his followers through psychological fear. I think he is EIE, although K4 says LIE, which could fit if there was more Te.

    He makes me think of Paul Waggener, love both their aesthetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    The Kingdom is a type of Se hierarchy with Negan at the top. He tries to break his followers through psychological fear. I think he is EIE, although K4 says LIE, which could fit if there was more Te.

    He makes me think of Paul Waggener, love both their aesthetic.
    Wait you mean the Saviors, not the Kingdom right? Negan is in charge of the Saviors not the kingdom, the kingdom is lead by Ezekiel who are pacifist at least in the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Wait you mean the Saviors, not the Kingdom right? Negan is in charge of the Saviors not the kingdom, the kingdom is lead by Ezekiel who are pacifist at least in the beginning.
    K not there yet. Stay tuned.

    The other day I was in a more rural grocery store and on the shelf was a magazine titled Prepper.

    Articles on how to survive and thrive the coming apocalypse.

    Just entertainment? Or a reason to feel forboding.

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    Okay finally have some time and interests to return to this series.

    Season 7, Negan's reign. Here we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timber View Post
    Season 7, Negan's reign. Here we go.
    Best of luck enduring all the shitty filler m8.

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    I will never know what type Rick is because the expressions and mannerisms of actor Andrew Lincoln are EXACTLY like those of an LSI I know-- it's REALLY uncanny.

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