Quote Originally Posted by Korpsy Knievel View Post
"'Ideas exist in nature as patterns or prototypes independent of human minds. The remainder of things only resemble Ideas and exist as their inferior copies.' I am..."
Crap, there's a lot to unpack!

Ideas independent of human minds -- sure, if a non-human mind creates them.

Ideas independent of minds altogether -- nah, without a mind, there's no idea.

Nature as an entity that excludes humans -- nope, can't work with that one. Nature's the overcategory and the foundation. Humans are a sophisticated part of nature. Ants shape the biosphere by cultivating "devil's gardens", wolves shape the biosphere by hunting elk, which makes room for the beavers to shape the biosphere, etc.

Mind, plus perceptual information, creates idea. "A = A" requires the invention of "A".