I added a poll so I can tally it all.
ILE
SEI
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SLE
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EIE
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I added a poll so I can tally it all.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
SeFi
Definitely an Ne/Se dom type,
but in your case Se seems clear to me. (:
Fi/Te also appears pretty clearly.
This also matches the rhythm of your psychology.
I can elaborate if needed.
Please don't do that. MBTI (or whatever you're talking about) =/= Socionics.Originally Posted by Valkyrie
Last edited by Park; 05-22-2012 at 04:04 AM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I would like you to elaborate on what you see as clear Se in the video.
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(S)he's almost completely unfamiliar with Socionics. Just FYI.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Yeah sounds like some weird physiognomy (s)he was posting in Ryene's thread... I wonder if it's the same system Maritsa is trying to apply... I can sort of see now why they are producing so many "SEE" typings... i mean everyone's head usually follows their eyes, unless they are like rolling their eyes or something. it's not an Se vs Ne thing... it's just normal anatomical reactions...
And duh, most people's eyes are going to be fixated on a point, as they are speaking to a camera, recording themselves. I mean, unless they are high or crazy... that shouldn't be pathognomonic for SEE.
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Well I don't advocate MBTI.
I study Carl Jung's work, though I agree with MBTI regarding the general sequence of the functions.
But I also believe in Jung's rational/irrational dichotomy, and disagree with MBTI's J/P dichotomy.
I think we are talking about the same Jungian functions, and in the same general order, which I think is the most important aspect. :"3
In that case everyone on here is mistyped. Well done. Although it has always been a mystery to me how on Earth people adhering to same source, that is Jung (and there are many on here), reading the same passages, chapters, etc., come to different conclusions.
It's like, say, 3 people looking at a nail, first one says it is monkey, second one a donkey, third one elephant.
Plus, this doesn't make any sense whatsoever:
How can one be valuing two opposing IEs at the same time, that is giving them equal importance. In case of an IEE typing this is bollocks and so it is in case of SEE typing.
I don't have anything against SEE for fenryrr, as far as I am concerned every single one of you on this board can be whatever type they want to be, play whatever Socionics and Dungeons character, most preferably gamma, so I can laugh in some of yous face when it is going to come to typing people.
And if she actually turns out to be SEE, then re-typing of certain people she has had the pleasure(?) to interact with is in order and I would want to see you do it, Valkyrie.
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I am honestly trying to communicate with you guys. =x
And share with you something fascinating that I see, which takes a lot of energy and effort to articulate, but try to do so in as clear a way as I can imagine for such a visceral thing. But if my hard-expressed elaborations are simply going to be bemusing entertainment for your apathetic and closed-off mind, then I digress. I won't waste my time...
you remind me boxxy when she isn't acting
Hm, I wonder what type she is.
I'd also like to add that i haven't felt physically well for the past few years. How I act and think and everything changes depending on how good or bad i feel. When I feel good, I'm a lot less monotone and all.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
Feel free to do so. I was just curious for it changes everything.
Do you believe you are an extrovert?Hm, I wonder what type she is.
I'd also like to add that i haven't felt physically well for the past few years. How I act and think and everything changes depending on how good or bad i feel. When I feel good, I'm a lot less monotone and all.
No idea.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I'm torn between IEI and IEE, Park.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
RAWR
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
What's tearing you? You don't appear Se-valuing at all.I'm torn between IEI and IEE, Park.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I would guess you as IEI, but there are clues to both in the video (I think alot of extroverts may automatically think "introvert", and you seem introverted compared to IEEs I know). You may just be a more subtle, depressed extrovert. (And I think an IEE female here mentioned that at one point, she thought she was an introvert due to issues). You may be an introvert with extroverted features. I think it's going to take some analysis and introspection on your part to figure it out. Either way, I would stay away from people who may be molding you into something you're not, for awhile. Imo, you could use less influence from outside sources in order to find and develop who you truly are, and find what makes you happy (I think you know this). When someone is down or in a bad situation, as you've said, they may not be acting from their true self or acting like themselves, so it's more difficult to actually KNOW their true type.
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Maybe that is because you assume everyone thinks like you when in reality everyone has different ways of getting from one point to another in their brain? Also, there is the fact that all thinking is bound by experience and all previous thoughts.
The fact that two people can look at the same data and get different conclusions is something I talk about fairly often. Knowledge is a subjective interpretation.
I'm pretty sure she values, there's ample signs, also, she does a lot of cute little things that Glam does as well and reacts very negatively to
Polrs like Korpsey.
How about Parkster and me? Sure, what you say is true, but you can't really use a single case as an indicator of a general rule....and reacts very negatively to
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Yeah, we're doing the same.
Your elaborations are fine as long as they are presented and taken for what they are - a subjective evaluation unrelated to Socionics. People should be aware that when you say "Se" you're not referring to
Last edited by Park; 05-22-2012 at 11:33 PM.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
I'm not really saying it's a rule or anything, just stuff I've noticed and what it lead me to believe. I think she some sort of Irrational ethical intuitive type, so IEE or IEI, but she noted that she might be asker this morning so she made that observation about herself.
I don't want to be a nitpicker, but you said "
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
I don't mean this as an offense, but I ignore most things hkkmr says because even if I try to get where he's coming from, usually at some point his reasoning stops making sense altogether or I find it incredibly narrow-minded and in direct conflict with reality and my personal observations.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
The only thing I dislike about hkkmr is how he reacts to opinions outside of his own. From my perspective he comes across very critical, blowhardish, and what the word for never considering a view outside one's own mind is called. I already know from his perspective I come across whiny and overly dramatic. Idk I want to like the guy, but its hard for me so I tend to just try to avoid him mostly.
And I would hide my face in you and you would hide your face in me, and nobody would ever see us any more.
That's right. Time to tell us how you REALLY feel about fellow forum members. Bring it on, bitches!
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
And Fenryrr, you can't be Beta. Me an Pa3s like you too much.
“Whether we fall by ambition, blood, or lust, like diamonds we are cut with our own dust.”
Well then, people on here wield different kinds of knowledge from each other although they all speak and read English. A stop sign says stop, it is quite universal, and means stop to me. I don't know, looks like to you it is a green light. Go go subjective powers of interpretation.
this thread is now about hkkmr.
whenever i have attempted to discuss socionics w/ hkkmr it comes down to him invalidating my opinion with "whatever dude, you type people wrong" at every disagrement. instead of, you know, entertaining the possibility that he himself could be wrong and listening to any reasoning i might have to provide.
if the other person doesnt give up right there and then, the aim of the discussion quickly becomes to wear the opponent down so they couldnt show him wrong,the epic battle between hkkmr's ego and whatever poor bastard tried to question him.
but whatever, the myopia wouldnt bother me if it werent followed by bullshitty deceptive faux-openmindedness that dissolves as soon as he gets his "argument mode" on. like saying, oh fen could be iee, EXCEPT NOT. or baby could be iei but DEFINITELY EII. ptff.
fen you know what i think of your type already.
I once saw hkkmr steal an ice cream cone from a kid and eat it while he starred into the victims eyes and laughed.
I've also heard he routinely steals the toilet paper from restrooms and waits for a victim to enter, then requests the victim sing a song about how awesome he is before he will return the paper.
Korpsey overdoes it sometimes. His criticism isn't just negation of Fe, but attack, making it clear someone's on his shitlist. That could frustrate different types of people, depending on the context.I'm pretty sure she values
IEE imo
You don't do well in 'beta-like' atmospheres which tend to be jokingly hostile.
<Crispy> what subt doesnt understand is that a healthy reaction to "FUCK YOU" isand not
oh u guys know each other??
and
sounds like joon pyo from BOF
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and
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
Awwwww, now now little hkkmr... no cry... just dont do it again... There's plenty of ice cream for you, just grab a whole half-pint from the freezer! who needs a stinking little cone of ice cream!
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^ just FYI: I was face-palming because you didn't get an obvious joke. And it seems like you still don't get it.
„Man can do what he wants but he cannot want what he wants.“
– Arthur Schopenhauer
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